Would Israel attack a non violent neighbour ?

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Would Israel attack a peaceful neighbour

Poll closed Feb 13, 2014.
  1. Yes they are a vicious resentful people who do not recognize international law

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  2. Yes

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  3. No , never they are a sane and just people who know LOVE and PEACE , Shalom Shalom

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  4. No

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  1. peter1973

    peter1973 New Member

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    2004 Doc#1677 Pg 10 para 4 "The Court concludes that the Israeli settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (including East Jerusalem) have been established in breach of international law." Now why would the International Court of Justice (the upper most tier of the international legal system) say that if it was Israeli land.
     
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    Article 80 says that the creation of a Jewish homeland is conditional upon full respect and protection of non-Jewish civil and religious rights in Palestine.

    Israel has violated this condition, millions of times since 1949.
     
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    Doc Dred, et al,

    I voted "NO." But that is with the understanding that Israel might exercise preemptive options in an attempt to repel or defeat a perceived offensive or invasion threat.

    (COMMENT)

    Self-defense consideration are complicated. They must go through a risk assessment process.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    its funny how Neo-Zionists want to ignore the part of the Palestine Mandate, which says Jewish settlement in Palestine and the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, is conditional upon full protection and respect for non-Jewish rights in Palestine.

    why they do dat?
     
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    “Let me ask a question,” their father Abu Ghadir asked. “Suppose the Israeli settlers were not evacuated. Would Israeli warplanes rip through the Gazan airspace so repeatedly and at the most sensitive times, when every man, women and child happens to be sleeping deeply?” - Abu Ghadir 30, from Maghazi, Gaza
     
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    On Saturday, 4th January, the Israeli navby shot at five fishermen and their boat, a hasaka, three nautical miles from the shore of Gaza, well within Palestine waters. 4 Jan 2014
    n the third such incident in less than 10 days, Israeli naval forces opened fire on two Palestinian fisherman near the Gaza Strip and subsequently took them into custody on Sunday afternoon. Israeli forces encountered the fishing vessel 1.5 nautical miles from shore, northwest of Beit Lahiya in northern Gaza. They opened fire on the fishermen and then surrounded the boats, demanding the two fishermen swim to their boat, according to a report by the Palestinian Center for Human Rights.While the fisherman swam towards the gunboats, Israeli forces continued spraying the water with bullets, and they confiscated the boat's 10 nets. 19 Nov 2013

    The attack follows a similar incident on Nov. 10, 2013, when Israeli naval forces attacked and detained two fishermen 3 nautical miles off the coast, with one fisherman sustaining bullet wounds to the abdomen from Israeli gunfire. On Nov. 9, 2013, Israeli forces opened fire on Palestinian boats as well and confiscated a number of items, but did not detain any fishermen, who fled.
    Palestinian fishermen are only allowed to go 3 nautical miles from Gaza's shore, even though Israeli-Palestinian agreement previously settled on 20 nautical miles. Israeli naval forces frequently harass Palestinian fishermen who near the 3-mile limit, as well as those inside the zone.
     
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    You need to ask this question the Court of Justice.
    In the UN charter you have article 80 that clearly say that the Wesr bank and the Land of Israel is part of the Jewish state, I already wrote about it, see what I wrote. (for a full presspective about article 80 you need to read article 77 also that in article 80 paragraph 1 refering too- and also article 77 i gave you here)
    Do you know that San Remo Resolution was edopted by the UN?


    Violated ah? so tell me if Israel violated this condition that why you have ARAB ministers in the Israeli government? that why to the Arab in Israel have full citizenship and can vote, relly, work, build houses etc?

     
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    The civil and religious rights of non-Jews are violated on a daily basis in the West Bank.
     
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    So why Israel accept and allow the Arabs to go to the the Temple Mount? and why Israel allow the Arabs to vote?
     
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    I believe history suggests Israel would have launched a massive pre-emptive attack on Saddam's Iraq if the US had not invaded in March 2003.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why Israel steals Arab land and gives it to Jews, for free?
     
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    Because...?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    because many Israelis feel that Jewish settlement in the West Bank is more important than abiding by international law.
     
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    Those villages are not settlements. Just ordinary places where people live.
    International laws 2014 are BS - if they meant something Assad the butcher would not have stayed in power.
    Are you a Spanish settler in New York ?
     
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    Israrel dont steal land for anybody.

    In the West Bank ALL the Arab cities arae under the PA rule, if the PA do sonething wrong to the Arabs there, it doesnt metter for Israel because the Arab cities are not under Israeli rule.

    Do you know that in area C in the West Bank the Israeli Civil Administration rule there (acourding to Oslo agreement) and the Arabs go to the High Court of Justice, which locate in Israel and accuse Jews for stealling the Palestinian Land, and you know what this High Court says? he give the land to the Arabs and ISRAEL itself need to evecuate Jews and Israeli citizens from this land. Thats why Migron have been evecuated by the IDF.
     
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    WRONG!!!!

    they are settlements and many of them are built on stolen land.
     
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    Israel has stolen tens of thousands of acres of Arab land in the West Bank.

    and then gave the land to settlers for free.

    this violates international law and the Palestine Mandate.
     
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    Do you know that in area C in the West Bank the Israeli Civil Administration rule there (acourding to Oslo agreement) and the Arabs go to the High Court of Justice, which locate in Israel and accuse Jews for stealling the Palestinian Land, and you know what this High Court says? he give the land to the Arabs and ISRAEL itself need to evecuate Jews and Israeli citizens from this land. Thats why Migron have been evecuated by the IDF.

    YOU DONT LIKE TO READ AH?
     
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    FACT: the Israeli govt. has admitted that many of the settlements are built on stolen land.
     
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    Here is another fact: (which you dont like to read)
    Do you know that in area C in the West Bank the Israeli Civil Administration rule there (acourding to Oslo agreement) and the Arabs go to the High Court of Justice, which locate in Israel and accuse Jews for stealling the Palestinian Land, and you know what this High Court says? he give the land to the Arabs and ISRAEL itself need to evecuate Jews and Israeli citizens from this land. Thats why Migron have been evecuated by the IDF
     
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    in the areas of the West Bank controlled by Israel, the rigths of non-Jews are violated on a daily basis.

    this is in total violation of the 4th Geneva Convention and the Mandate for Palestine.
     
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    How? as far as i know (and i sew it in my own eyes), the Arabs can go to Gush Etzion Intersection witouth any interruption from the IDF and even the Arabs work in the supermarket in Gush Etzion Intersection, which this supermarket is own by Jew.
     
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    Palestinians are not allowed in the Israeli settlements, or on the roads that connect the Israeli settlements.

    Israel has never once confiscated Arab land in the West Bank to build something to be used by ALL inhabitants of the West Bank. They only build things for Israeli Jews.

    this violates the 4th Geneva Conventions, the UN Charter, and the Palestine Mandate.
     
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    IF you dont believe me i suggest you to go to Gush Etzion and see for yourself.
    Here a pictures about this supermarket:
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    In the first picture you can see a PALESTINIAN car outside Rami Levi Supermarket (Rami Levi founded this supermarket in Gosh Etzion)

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    In the second picture you can see Rami Levi himself (in the middle) when all around him there's Arab workers.
     

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