Would only an evil god blame his own creations for the taint therein -- of his poor craftsmanship?

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  1. Greatest I am

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    Would only an evil god blame his own creations for the taint therein -- of his poor craftsmanship?

    God is said to have condemned the whole world and all in it who followed Adam and Eve.

    Christianity calls it our Original Sin; the sin of being born tainted by Adam’s sin. It happens to be an immoral construct that the Jews do not have in the original theology.

    We are also told that god creates us all tainted and sustains us all.

    If I erred in raising or creating my children, I would step up to the blame.

    Why does god punish us, victims of his poor craftsmanship, instead of taking his rightful blame?

    I also thought that Yahweh was the Jewish god, yet Christianity does not have Yahweh following his own law. Christians have Yahweh murdering his own son as a sacrifice that goes against most sane laws.

    Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

    God, it seems to me, has screwed up creation and wants to blame the creation for his own incompetence.

    Thoughts?

    Regards
    DL

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    Do you blame yourself for your children's flaws? Or do you recognize them and try to correct them?

    Do you discipline them out of anger or to try to make their lives better in the long run?

    IMO it's not a question of competence, but of love. How to create better people.
     
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    Where are you getting your information? The Bible? That's why you're always wrong.
     
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    Catholic doctrine is that evil isn't really in itself a created thing; it's an absence of God, the inevitable state of things when God removes himself from a system.
     
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    Always wrong?

    Ok.

    Regards
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    So much for omnipresent.

    I agree that that is a lie.

    Do you mind that a satanic Yahweh is not here to murder us the way he is said to do in scriptures?

    Why did he not leave without that nastiness?

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    A pathetic analogy since most parents don't claim to be omnipotent.
     
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    Most parents claim to know more than their kids.
     
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    Sorry but that isn’t omnipotance,
     
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    As a former kid, it seemed to me my parents knew everything.

    Certainly they knew enough to guide me thru life.
     
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    Not if they left you believing in the supernatural.

    Was that your own foolish decision?

    Regards
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    See, now you're resorting to ad hominem arguments. These are logical fallacies.
     
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    See, now you're deflecting as you do not like the answer you would give to my simple question.

    Regards
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    Is π (pi) male or female?

    The biggest fallacy of religion is the anthropomorphising of god.
     
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    Not really.

    Remember that Yahweh was depicted as an androgynous god before Christianity usurped him from the Jews and ruined him by ignoring the midrash that came with him/her and making him/her into just a him.

    As a naturalist, logic tells me we should have human gods and thinking of god as androgynous is the best way to go.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Oops
     
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