Would the observable world be different, if God existed, but...

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    He didn't care?

    If He was apathetic, not just towards the individual or the comings and goings of humanity, but to the condition of mankind or even its continued existence?

    Would it look any different?
     
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    I think an apathetic god much easier to take then an omnibenevolent god.

    The problem of evil, in my view, makes it impossible to believe in an all-loving god whereas an apathetic god is not open to such attacks.
     
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    IF there was a God, I would certainly hope our world would be far less violent and children would not die of starvation. IF a God was looking over us I would hope disease and war would be something it would prohibit or eradicate. As all these things exist and many keep getting worse as we little Humans keep being stupid...I must assume it does no much care or it does not exist.


    Obviously the ones we have made up certainly don't.
     
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    Being that we can't tell he exists now I don't see a difference either way. Since I no longer accept any man made writings as God inspired, I have reason to believe there is a God, apathetic or otherwise.
     
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    If there was no suffering on earth there would be no way to tell who had faith.

    We will get all of this in heaven and our time on earth is a mere blink in eternity.

    We are all going to die and it's never pretty. Dying of old age or cancer or getting hit by a bus is all irrelevant. God tells us to be prepared for when it happens.
     
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    People with faith don't suffer? That can't be right. And the same god who's the poster boy for deadbeat dads is suddenly going to spring into action when we die, housing us in Paradise? I'm not buying that, either. But I'm prepared: I contacted UCONN to donate my body to science, for the betterment of mankind.

    I think if gods exist, they didn't plan for there to be other life, and to date they haven't detected us.
     
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    nope, what is is... regardless of how it got it's start

    scientist now think they could create their own universe in a laboratory, though it would separate from this one and we could not access it again shortly after creation, would that make them God's, guess to that universe it would

    could our Gods just be some guys in a lab coat from another Universe, could be

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    1) so the omni-everything god has no way of determining who idolises him? its only possible means of discerning such an obvious thing (even to us) is to cause suffering and let that decide? if so, that's one incredibly stupid god, because I've seen uber-christians suffering, and I can assure you they suffer as much, if not more, than the rest of us. my money would be on 'more'. they have the added pain of shock ... it's hard to adjust to reality when you've lit all your lesser sufferings in the warm fuzzy lamp light of a god who's going to take care of you.

    2) only a tiny proportion of humanity will get to your heaven.

    3) your god might tell you to be prepared for death, but you guys never are. theists are notably bad at dying/bereavement.
     
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    Of course people of faith suffer just like anyone else.

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    Where did I say Christians never suffer?
     

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