Would you feel safer...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by UntilNextTime, Jul 13, 2023.

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What do you think is the premise of disarming a nation, safety, or control? Choose wisely.

  1. Safety

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  2. Control

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    60.4%
  3. Something more nefarious

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    25.0%
  4. I am Clueless

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am not obsessed with defending Trump. I am merely pointing out that the level of hatred against Trump is way beyond anything I have seen in 50+ years and that the level is approaching insanity in some cases. I would bet money that many Trump haters were hating Trump long before the 1/6 charges developed. They just adopted the legal charges as their main argument when those became available.
     
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  2. LangleyMan

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    He cost Republicans the last election because he's unpopular. They lost to Joe Biden, fer crissake, and almost lost to Hillary in 2016.

    Democrats should be elated Trump is running because it allows them to cover up the serious fault lines between factions in their party.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I agree, Trump is not a good choice for the GOP. Nikki Haley would crush senile Joe. Tim Scott would too
     
  4. Kode

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    Nobody wants to disarm us. At least no one in any government position does.

    I’m getting a kick out of realizing that while the political right is really really really against liberalism and bitches about it regularly, when it comes to a liberal interpretation of laws they’re all for it when it serves them, like their view of freedom of speech when the issue is their right wing insane and highly damaging media, or when it’s the 2nd Amendment and their interpretation of “militia” and the need for it to be “well-regulated”. In such cases it seems principle is out the window. Similarly in this case with interpreting “ban assault-style rifles” to mean “disarm us”.
     
  5. UntilNextTime

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    Do you have anything to back up your opinion, or is that just it, an opinion?

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...on-more-any-sitting-president-history-1548742
    https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/08/05/donald-trump-indictment-popularity-lgbtq/

    Yeah, he's really unpopular!
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    He is dangerous as evidenced by his attempt to steal the 2020 election.
    Sure. I can see women hating him for putting anti-abortion types on the Court.

    Trump is seriously damaging the Republican Party.
     
  7. UntilNextTime

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    The problem with most people is that they find it difficult to read between the agenda lines. Very subtle changes occur over time until the goal is achieved with the majority not noticing. If it was a sudden stripping of gun ownership, there would be massive uprisings.
     
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    dangerous requires both a desire and a reasonable possibility. for example, if a 90 year old woman in a wheelchair says she wants to "beat the crap" out of a police officer who is a third her age, she is not a danger.
     
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    40% of the people might go along with suspending the Constitution.
     
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    Whataboutism Alert!

    You can't defend Trump, so you attack Biden.
     
  12. UntilNextTime

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    Do you or can you read the articles? Could that be why there's no explanation because you failed to read the contents?
    WOW, more graphs! How accurate and biased are they?
     
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    I already have, are you that special?

     
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    You don't appear capable of addressing sophisticated arguments, so I keep it simple for you.

    For example, you could comment on how we might address this...

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  15. UntilNextTime

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    Do you mean you can't understand the technical issues, so you have to keep them simple for yourself? auiqs.jpg.gif
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    You've made lots of really stupid comments, but you've outdone yourself this time.
     
  17. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    I know the truth is hard to bear, even when you can't realise it yourself. Someone else has to point it out, but to save face, comments as above are made. You're doing well, keep up the great work! Someone may actually care one day. auiqs.jpg.gif
     
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    But your cohort has been whining about this for a long, long time along with a list of other whines, none of which has ever happened. It really just about cultivating a continuing conspiracy theory with a subject that keeps changing with the times.
     
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    It's only a conspiracy theory if you don't know or understand what to look for. There are too many subtle clues to ignore, unfortunately, many do.
     
  20. Kode

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    “QUICK! RUN FOR THE ESCAPE POD!!” :roflol:
     
  21. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Typical response. No wonder so many are clueless.
     
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    the only real attacks on the constitution that i see are on the second amendment and the electoral college. Plus democrats want to pack the supreme court-not a direct attack on the constitution
     
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    What does YOUR particular confusion have to do with “so many”?
     
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    You're ignoring the threat Trump represents to our democracy.
     
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    Credible reports had Trump planning to suspend the Constitution.
     

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