Would you feel safer...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by UntilNextTime, Jul 13, 2023.

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What do you think is the premise of disarming a nation, safety, or control? Choose wisely.

  1. Safety

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  2. Control

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    60.4%
  3. Something more nefarious

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  4. I am Clueless

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I cannot see any valid threat that anyone who understands law enforcement would find credible.
     
  2. Turtledude

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    what are those credible reports and how would he do that? FDR was the last to do that
     
  3. LangleyMan

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    Haley would be a better choice.
     
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    I'd say you're blind to the threat.
     
  5. Turtledude

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    well tell me exactly what you think Trump could have done and how it would have been carried out given his own VP was against his alleged schemes. I think those who claim this are either making mountains out of anthills or are engaged in some chicken little machinations
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    You wouldn't know.
     
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    He was planning to do something like invoke the Insurrection Act. Would he get away with it?
     
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    not in a million years.
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    The attempt to steal the 2020 election was a threat.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    So, his 40% share won't be with him?
     
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    I know tons of people who voted for Trump--some really like him-others like me-saw him as the best of two bad choices. I voted against Trump in the 2016 primary. I voted for my governor John Kasich. But I had to vote for Trump because he at least might appoint good judges (he did IMHO) while I knew Hilary would appoint people like Kagan or Jackson. Same in 2020. Biden is awful but I doubt most of us who supported Trump would put up with some blatant violations of the constitution. People who voted for Trump appear to be far bigger fans of supporting the institution than the Biden fan club. And I would bet, far more Trump supporters have taken an oath to support the constitution
     
  12. UntilNextTime

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    The only confusion you hold is your own. I have the purist clarity. The "so many" should be easily recognised, you're part of it.
     
  13. UntilNextTime

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    The threat to democracy is by the Democrats. They are morphing it. Do you ever wonder why, when any of these talking heads mentions "our democracy is under threat"? Why don't they say, "Democracy is under threat" Who's democracy is under threat exactly? It appears to be that the one they are creating, is the one under threat.
     
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    And you do know whether or not they are accurate and biased or not?
     
  15. LangleyMan

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    What a mouse like Pence says won't stop Trump. Only the military and FBI would stop the guy. The recent GOP debate stage filled with handwringing wannabes tells us we can't count of Republican pols.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    Yes, I know. You don't.

    See if you can tell us how to fix this...

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    American workers are no better off than they were 45 years ago.

    P.S. Democrats didn't save them, either.
     
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  17. UntilNextTime

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    Not answering the question, again, you detract. Who really doesn't know... YOU?
    Very easily. Dump Biden and the Democrats. Problem solved, or at least the root cause is removed, then the clean up of the mess they've created.
    WTF is a graph going to show? Anyone can create one to provide biased content, to satisfy their argument. Can you give anything else or do you solely use graphs?
     
  18. LangleyMan

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    The problem started fifty years ago. Look at the graph--wages were stalled under Reagan, Bush the Elder, Clinton, Dubya Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. Getting rid of Biden won't fix the problem. He won't solve it, either.
    Understanding it is why I make money
    I explained the graph on the forum long ago.
     
  19. UntilNextTime

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    90% are/were puppets for someone else's agenda. Why else is the problem consistent? There is no other explanation than the latter. If it was to be fixed, it could have been. But because it's not part of the agenda, the US is destined for the toilet, POTUS after POTUS.
    I did ask for alternative means of info, can you provide that at all?
    As above, so below.
     
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    I could, but I'm not interested in having people who have a limited understanding of economics tell me I'm a dupe, brainwashed etc. It's not worth my time.

    If you do a search on "real wage" and my posts, you'll run across it.
     
  21. UntilNextTime

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    auiqs.jpg.gif Aaaaaannnnnd... this is what the problem is with most people in society. Too fu...en lazy. It's not about not understanding, it's about providing alternative info that backs your claims. Because you can't complete the simple task, it only tells me that you lack the ability to do so as it is not important enough for you to back your own claim.
    Can't you answer a simple question? And that question is;

    if over the past 50+ years and more have given the US the numbers your graph has provided, why can't, hasn't any POTUS fixed the problem? I'll help you, it is designed that way for the US to die slowly, economically, then the rest of the calamities will follow. It isn't a conspiracy theory, it only is when people have their heads up their ownass and won't, don't and can't see what is and has been happening.
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  22. LangleyMan

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    The graph speaks for itself. What does it tell you?
     
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    Is it too difficult to provide?
     
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    You can't common on what these lines mean?

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    Do you mean, "I can't comment" on these graphs? Yes, I can. I want you to provide alternative sources. Which you detract from because you know you can't.

    Also, you find it difficult to answer this question;

     

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