Would You Lie For Trump?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by tecoyah, Jul 17, 2018.

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Would you lie for Trump?

  1. Yes, I will do what he asks.

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  2. No, I would draw the line.

    53.8%
  3. Maybe, depends on the circumstances.

    30.8%
  4. ....other....

    11.5%
  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Got reference what you are responding to.
     
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    It must be tough to be this butt hurt. After you got off your knees, knobbing on Obama's stick, it must be tough seeing America get Great again. Unemployment nearing all time low, more blacks and Hispanics working than ever before. Working Joes getting raises and bonuses again. NATO nations paying their fair share, Stock market through the roof, GDP climbing, Taxes lower, meaningful dialog with North Korea, On and On. The butt hurt are in a feeding frenzy. Everything they spew out of their hating mouths ends up being nothing but bile. What do they have left? Nothing but name calling and fake outrage.

    By the way, I hope you are drunk. No sane person would post the senseless dribble you just wrote.
     
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    Xtremenerd Well-Known Member

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    whether I would lie for Trump
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What was I just talking about? Oh yeh, fawning lickspittles for Trump

    I don't drink but it seems your meds dosages need adjustment
     
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  5. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Man you have definitely drunk the koolaid. Yet another glaring example of the quality of critical thinking skills prominent in trumpland.
    Unless of course you are an ally in which case its deliberate willful ignorance.

    America is losing its position as the leader of the free world. Unemployment is low and continues a trend started 97 months ago, and I know this is rocket surgery for some, but when unemployment is low, it stands to reason the most of the tracked demographic employment numbers would be too. Working joes getting the crumbs left over from the gigantic corporate tax cuts that are eaten up and more by inflation and healthcare costs. Meaningful dialogue with NK? You mean getting played by a two bit dictator? Notice he's done DIDDLY SQUAT wrt to the great agreement with Trump. How long does it take to repatriate bags of bones?

    Oh and then there was Trump bending over for Putin on the world stage for all to see. And worse he KNEW Putin launched a military cyber warfare campaign on the Nation he is sworn to protect. That too is friggin reality,


    AS for your assessment of other's sanity, I guess that ability comes from your intimate struggle with same.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    D'oh!
     
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    First of all, leadership. Didn't we just get rid of the yahoo who wanted to "lead from behind". You misunderstand leadership. Leadership is not bowing, apologizing, and ball licking. Leadership is putting America first. Leadership is bringing rogue leaders into line. Leadership is getting NATO members to pay their fair share. If you were not a total DNC dupe you would know that Trump has taken and continues to take numerous actions against Russia. Just more pesky facts you don't want to acknowledge. By the way, Leadership is not blaming Bush for all your failures.

    You do realize that 95% of the jobs created by Obama were part time or minimum wage. We are not seeing that trend continue. The jobs created now are real jobs. Just a couple of years ago, Obama stated that a GDP over 1.5% was impossible. Gee how times have changed.

    You will need to point out where all this inflation is. I know you don't like facts, pesky things those facts but the inflation rate is 2.1%, gasp the same as it was in 2016. By the way the wage increase prediction for this year is 3% meaning the American worker is gaining .9%. Far better than any Obama year.

    How can healthcare be higher? Weren't we told 8 years ago that we would be saving $2,500 a year? Gee, who would have thought that removing the ceiling, allowing 25 year olds to be on their parents policy, adding mental care, adding drug rehab, removing preexisting conditions and a dozen more changes would drive rates up? I can see why you would blame all that on Trump.

    In case you were sleeping that cyber warfare you are whining about did not occur under Trump. I also find it odd that the DNC and Clinton who claim to be victims of this "warfare" refuse to allow the FBI to examine their servers. Why do you think that is? Is the FBI corrupt or are they hiding something? Again just some pesky facts to muddle your dribble.

    You and your butt hurt buddy should at least use some facts to bolster your arguments. If not at least serve some cheese with your whine.
     
  8. mamooth

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    So Trump is the opposite of a leader. Everyone agrees on that. All he does is grovel and lick, and you love him for doing it. Birds of a feather, I suppose. But then, people don't get sucked into the Trump cult unless they're authoritarian followers.

    And as Trump puts Russia first, he's clearly a very bad leader, the worst president in US history by a longshot.

    Everyone outside of the RepubliRussian cult hates your DearLeader. Despite what you've been ordered to believe, failure and treason are not popular with mainstream America. Your immoral minority, which stays in power by thuggery, theft, and corruption, got greedy and took it too far. Pity. You were so close to implementing your authoritarian utopia, but you failed, and now it's all crumbling down. No wonder you're so upset. You should have tried implementing fascism more gradually.
     
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    Nice projection. I thoroughly understand the concept of leadership and the various styles and strategies.
    I agree leadership ain't ball licking, but a strong leader can readily pay respect to others and apologize for his mistakes.

    Leadership is not just putting America first and screw everyone else if they don't toe the line. America is the leader of the western world and has been for 70 years. Building that multinational coalition of like minded and the chosen economically strategically aligned is why America is GREAT in the first place.

    Leadership is getting NATO to pay their fair share - good on obama for getting that agreement.

    If you aren't a total trump dupe you know that HIS actions were forced upon him. How quickly you forget that it was CONGRESS that forced trump to impose the sanctions and even it being law he has not implemented them fully. How quickly you forget that Trump has "forgiven Russia" for its serial aggression, its military adventurism and its direct military attack on the nation he leads. Leadership is not appeasement and it isn't to be found in his bullshit propaganda.



    No I don't realize bullshit. I realize facts. Can you actually provide me with some?

    US inflation rate increases to 2.9 in june

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

    Overall price increases for past 12 months (coincidentally) 2.9%

    https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2018/c...-9-percent-over-12-months-ended-june-2018.htm

    And you understate wage increases. its currently approaching 5%

    I retract my statement, i was clearly in factual error.


    Your joking arent' you? I guess all that repeal and replace failure and then the dismantling of various programs in spite has absolutely no impact on prices. But boy trump sure did win by getting a couple big pharma NOT to increase prices this year. Nothing at all about decreases though.

    And healthcare costs are EXPECTED to increase since its tied directly to demographics. The "who knew healthcare could be so complicated" challenge is to mitigate those increases while maintaining or improving both reach and coverage.


    ITS STILL FRIGGIN HAPPENING AND TRUMP HAS REFUSED TO EVEN ADMIT IT UNTIL IT BECAME CLEAR HE HAD TO. Course you missed all that "hoax" "fake news" deep state conspiracy theory he's been constantly vomiting.

    Fact is the FBI didn't need the physical server. Oh my. Don't let your ignorance get in the way of a good conspiracy theory tho.

    Well at least you wit matches your intellect.
     
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    wow, I didn't think it was possible. Guy writes a three page response and says nothing. Ignorance seems to have no limits.
     
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    thank you for the demonstration.
     
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    Schoolyard threats of violence are a sign of immaturity.

    Those that are musclebound between the ears lack the critical thinking skills necessary to compete in a forum of concepts and ideas.

    Unfortunately the lackwits will never grasp that their alleged physical prowess is of no avail whatsoever.

    On the internet the intellectual strength and credibility of the argument is far more powerful and effective in achieving the goal of getting the point across to the audience that matters.

    As an aside it is impossible to kill an idea through physical force. Ideas must be discredited and even then there will still be those who will cling to them regardless.
     
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    None so blind as those who will not see

    I'm going to repeat this question in different threads until one or another Trumpette decides to actually answer it. If Trump is not guilty why doesn't he cooperate with Mueller fully and then let the man exonerate him? If you've done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear.
     
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    That seems to be the GOPs new mantra. So far the GOP Senate and Congress for the most part have shown no integrity at all when it comes to calling down Trump on his lies because they are afraid they might lose some votes. You can bet that if the tide turns bad for Trump public opinion wise, many will jump ship like rats.
     
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    What are the circumstances? Would I be lying to save the nation? Would I be lying to save some individual man's ass?

    Wake up! People have been lying for their rulers ever since the dawn of human history! They lie for Trump, they lied (big-time) for Obama, they lied for "W" Bush, on and on and on and on, infinitum!
     
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    seems as though lying is expected and acceptable.
     
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    But there is a difference between lying for good men or good causes, and lying for trump. Lying for the country is not the same as lying to cover trump's pathetic big butt.
     
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    If you have to say it, you aren't.
     
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    If you feel the need to contest it, you want to be.
     
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    If you became a politician, then your main trait is to lie.

    If you're just working for government, you're likely to lie to keep your fingers in the cash register.
     
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    Good point. We have had some colossal liars in some administrations. It would me impossible to top Susan Rice. Hillary Clinton had little trouble lying about all her husbands affairs either.

    If lying disqualified a politician, we would have no politicians.
     
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