Would you vote for me?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by legles933, Jul 30, 2012.

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Would you vote for me

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  3. Maybe

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  1. legles933

    legles933 New Member

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    I have always dreamed of growing up and starting a career in politics. I'd liked to but I don't know how well my ideas compare to the ideas of other people, and I would rather find out now then in a election. First I'll list some general info. about me, then I'll list some important issues in American life. If you see an issue missing, please reply about and I'll try to add it.

    General Info.
    Political Leaning: Conservitive
    Home State: New jersey
    Current Residence: Mclean, Virginia
    Age: Under 18 (Lets leave it at that)
    Education: Currently working on High School, aiming for MBA and/or liberal arts major
    Wealth: Upper Middle Class
    Religion: Roman Catholic

    Issues:

    Gay Rights: Pro

    Affirmitive Action: Against AA when it's based on race, for it when it's talking about wealth (or lack thereof)

    Taxes: I support tax cuts for upper middle class down, while supporting tax hikes for high income individauls like athletes and actors. I would also support tax cuts on companies and businesses that can prove that they will use the tax cuts to expand their businesses by hiring more people.

    Education: I support reform of the education system to allow greater learning oppertunities for kids, which will eventually benefit the U.S. as a whole. I am pro public education, and against teacher's unions (When they are doing things to harm the childrens education, protecting bad teachers, for example.). I also believe when it comes to spending cuts, Education, along with defence, should be the last thing to get hit.

    Welfare: I feel that steps need to be taken to avoid the expansion of welfare. These steps mainly include using tax cuts on companies and buisnesses to give the unemployed jobs, and tax cuts to get them off welfare.

    State worker's pay: I would support state workers pay not being lowered, but instead not giving out annual pay raises, they'd normally get.

    Immigration: I would support further legal immigration to increase consumer demand and tax revenue, I would also support a program that offered citizenship to foreign students who go to college here. I am also against illegal immigration, and am therefore against giving illegal immigrants citizenship status, their children however, should be given an oppertunity if they fit a certain criteria, such as having a clean record and good academic file.

    Drugs: Personally, I'm against all drugs(Not including Alcohol and tobacco) and wouldn't support legalization. However If it became enough of a nuisence, I would support legalization paired with heavy taxes of drugs like Marijuana and hallucinagens, while contiuing the ban on drugs like cocaine and heroin.

    Abortion Rights: When I eventually grow up and get married, if my wife was pregnant, I wouldn't support abortion as an option with the child. If others want to do it fine, but it's not going to federally funded. (If your wondring why I'm not pro-choice personnally, it has to do with the idea that we (my wife and I) consider abortion, decide not to go through with it, have the child, then when the kid is about 14 tell him/her "We almost aborted you!".).

    Foreign Policy: Here's where I disagree with both main parties. I belive in foreign policy that takes a hardline policy against rivals of ours who we can't or are unlikley to work issues out with (Russia, North Korea, Iran, Etc.) While trying to build relations with current rivals who are too important financially (like China, for instance) for us to be enemies. At the same time I would try to reaffirm relationships with classic partners (Israel, for example).

    Lastly I think it should be stated that (and I don't want to seem arrogant) I'm generally not a person who can be influenced, meaning I won't switch my positions for political gain, and, for me, a perfect political term is like the one and only term of James K. Polk, where he didn't run again because he acomplished everything he set out to do.
     
  2. Phil

    Phil Well-Known Member

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    Polk died just after he left office because he worked too hard. He didn't get the 54/40 and it's not clear whether he wanted to conquer Mexico or annex all of it.
    The problem with your politics is that you straddle too many lines to be welcome in either major party and have no clear rhetoric.
    What central issue would you run on?
     
  3. legles933

    legles933 New Member

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    The central issue I would run would be the economy. In response to what you said about not really fitting in with any one party, I think that could be a good thing as I take the best from both parties, forming into one opinion that fits a large number of people (Or at least the majority of the people I know). Also I used Polk mainly because of his fufilled promise of only trying to serve one term, a promise I don't think many modern polititions could repeat.
     
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    violadude New Member

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    I can't vote for you if you are under 18.
     
  5. caul

    caul New Member

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    Protip: Don't run for office until you've lived by yourself
     
  6. sunnyside

    sunnyside Well-Known Member

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    I guess we'll see how you grow up. However I think there's one comment where your just plain misunderstanding the problem.

    The vast majority of individuals on welfare are there because of having children without sufficient support. Since the cost of daycare is higher than the wage they'd earn at the jobs they're qualified for, you cannot make a siginificant cut in welfare through job creation. This holds true if you count entitlements for the eldarly as welfare.

    Though Obama is expanding government entitlements to twenty somethings staying in their parent's basements and playing video games and their drums all day. However so long as the gravey train is still active, it is unlikely job creation would get them to give up on their "art" either.
     
  7. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    Sorry, you're not liberal enough. I was about to choose maybe, but it became a no in the end :(
     
  8. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You sound too wishy washy. You sound look like a confused conservative, probably more liberal in your leaning I'd say.
     
  9. Blasphemer

    Blasphemer Well-Known Member

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    I voted maybe, some good ideas there, and nothing that would seriously put me off.

    Just dont let the conservative/liberal ideologoue BS poison your thinking. There is good and bad on both sides.
     
  10. Alif Qadr

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    Affirmative Action has always been based in race. Exactly what do you call how the United States began? It certainly did not include Indians, Blacks nor women.

    Taxes are wasted on a thing called national defense. from what I know, defense should be reduced by one-half to three-quarters and there will be plenty of available remaining defense. Before contemplating raising or lowering any taxes, defense, which is discretionary, should be severely reduced.

    Education] This needs to be destroyed and reestablished. following is an example: greater learning opportunities for kids. When I was attending elementary/grammar school, children were not referred to as kid being that a kid is a baby goat. This may seem harsh but it is a reality. As far as the basis of education, rote learning is not teaching a child to increase their intelligence, it only teaches memorization which is one of the reasons why I states that the system of education needs to be destroyed and and reestablished. The primary purpose for education is to civilize the population. Take a look at the products of education, even those who have obtained a "higher education"; far from civilized thus far from educated.

    Welfare There would be no need for welfare if this were a civilized society, instead of a society based on barbarism that is enhanced through conquest. A truly civilized society has the basis of civilization easily accessible to all who are within said civilization. A means to obtain food, clothing and shelter should not be tied to economics, especially in a society such as this one. Why do I state this? I state this because in this type of society, there will always be those in need who are either unable to obtain these necessary items or who do not have the means to obtain them although said persons are very able.

    Drugs and Narcotics would be of no consequence in a just and sane society. Narcotics (Alcohol included) come from the desire to "escape" reality and Drugs come into play when a society is so unhealthy being that it is profit driven, so it pollutes the environment and the essentials of environment; water and land in the quest for more profits. An unhealthy psychology leads to an unhealthy environment which leads to the use of drugs and narcotics.

    Abortion{/B] Outright murder . . . NEXT

    Foreign Policy this is the cause of most of the suffering upon the face of The Planet Earth. Again, the current policies are profit and power driven. Eliminate the power and profit such will be a "no brainer"
     
  11. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I was mostly supportive of the OP until the foreign policy and drugs parts.

    He's suggesting it should only aid people with financial need, which actually makes a lot of sense.



    What about cases where the mother would die from childbirth?
     
  12. Alif Qadr

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    hat about case where mothers would die from childbirth? My answer is as follows: have people become that selfish until they would not sacrifice themselves for their children? Of course this is a rhetorical question being that everyone of us sees the answer to such a question every day of the weeks, months and years; the answer is Y-E-S, people have become that selfish!

    I am going to tell you something about my self and my mother. My mother had cycle cell anemia to the extreme. When she became pregnant with me, she knew that there was a chance of her dying during childbirth. Guess what, she went through with the pregnancy anyway. She even had a severe cycle-cell attack while in labor and she almost died. Being that both of us survived the experience, I give no credence to your argument at all. Murder is Murder, be it by a selfish female who decided to have sexual intercourse and wants to engage in the unwarranted murder of the life developing in her, a rape victim (guess what, during slavery as well as The Nadir (Jim and Crow Era) plenty of Black women as well as Black girls were raped and they still had the children. There is no excuse for terminating a growing life at all. If females know that there is a chance that they might die during childbirth, it is her responsibility to behave like a mature adult and not engage in the behaviors that lead to pregnancy. Of course, this would take a moral compass which most people in this day and age do not have, be they male or female.

    As fro the young man's inference about Affirmative Action, my comment still stands, although I do agree with him in that there should be no racial preference in a society that touts that it is color-blind, which a load of bull dung. We all know that this society has been and will always be based on heritage regardless to time, space or place.
     
  13. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    For your own sake, I hope you don't live in a Western country. If you do, your attitude towards interfering with the personal choices of others really has no place in even a remotely free society.

    You'd definitely fit in Iran or Saudi Arabia though.
     
  14. Kranes56

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    It's nice to see more young people getting into politics. But your positions will simply peeve of both sides. Tell me, what will be your voter base? Are you aiming for more right wing, or left wing?
     
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    That makes you an ineffective politician.

    You can take heroic stands and accomplish nothing, or you can dive into the mud with the other pigs and get half of what you want. In my book, actually accomplishing something outweighs having a warm fuzzy feeling concerning how you didn't compromise your principles.
     
  16. Ivor

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    No.

    ....
     
  17. legles933

    legles933 New Member

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    Mamooth:When I was saying what you quoted, I was refering to how I'm not the kind of person who would give in quickly towards outside pressure from the media or advocacy groups. I was also talking how I would avoid promoting crony capitalism and how I wouldn't flip flop on key issues by following polls.
     
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    Kranes56:personally, I think that by the time I'm even old enough to run (a little more then two decades), the Republican Party will have gradually evolved its positions on several issues that younger voters (Myself for instance) disagree with them on. But to answer your question, I would aim primarily towards fiscal conservitives, maybe even hooking in indepedents and left wing voters that value positions such as pro-gay rights.
     

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