WTC1/WTC2 perimeter columns vs. plane impact, math discussion...

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  1. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Making s*** up isn't 'plenty wrong'...not by a long shot..
     
  2. Stndown

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    One of the interesting things about the truth is that it stands on its own. If the nonsensical story had any merit, it too, would stand on its own. Making s up? That's funny. There seems to be quite a bit of manufactured nonsense when it comes to the story were were given. It their version of the truth were so strong, you and I wouldn't be here having this friendly exchange right now.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Yes,truthers are adept at making stuff up out of whole cloth and propping it up and calling it 'truth'
     
  4. genericBob

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    is it made up
    that is, the manner of the collapse of the towers & 7?
    is it made up the fact that so little aircraft parts had been recovered.
     
  5. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Prove 'so little aircraft parts have been found'
     
  6. Hannibal

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    95% of flight 93 recovered, including DNA, for one example of why your post is wrong.
     
  7. genericBob

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    and exactly how is that 95% documented?

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    The mainstream media has asserted that hijacked airliners were used as weapons,
    however, they have failed to support that assertion.
     
  8. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    LOL....sure they haven't

    Understand the concept of a kamikaze attack?
     
  9. genericBob

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    Mentioning "kamikaze" attack in no way explains away the lack of the
    alleged 95% of FLT93 accounted for, when I have asked repeatedly
    for what constitutes that accounting, and so far have not received an answer.
     
  10. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    there wasn't a lack of parts from flt 93..that was the POINT...
     
  11. genericBob

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    AH...... but where & how was it documented, that is the remains of "FLT93" where is it?
     
  12. LoneStrSt8

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    look for it...I'm not about to spoon feed you doubters


    If you want an inventory,find it.
     
  13. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    This is the problem with 9/11. Skyscrapers are not some new technology. The Empire State Building is 83 years old and designed and constructed without the use of electronic computers.

    There were 2900 perimeter wall panels from the 9th floor to the top of each WTC tower. We have documentation from 1970 saying that the heaviest panels were 22 tons. We should have data on the weight and quantity of each of the various grades of panel. But we don't. We also do not have data on the horizontal beams that connected the columns in the core. The length of horizontal steel in the core should have been about 2 1/2 times the length of vertical steel.

    There have been 50 skyscrapers over 1,000 feet tall constructed since 9/11.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_the_world

    But you can't find data on the tons of steel and tons of concrete on every level of any skyscraper. Analysis of the supposed 9/11 "collapses" is the biggest scientific farce in history.

    A professor at the University of Washington was able to build a 54 ft. 1/200th scale model of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in 4 months in 1940 IN A WIND TUNNEL, and yet no engineering school can build a collapsing model of the north tower in TWELVE YEARS. :roflol:

    psik
     
  14. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Why would they need to?
     
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    That is the problem, I've been looking for the past decade +
    and all that I get for an "answer" is a pix of a dumpster full of rubble,
    allegedly the stuff was weighed and found to be 95% of the weight of
    the alleged aircraft and that was that, but my take on the subject
    is that somebody could have gone around the alleged crash site
    and picked up anything at all, some random bit of junk and called it a piece
    of "FLT93" and tossed it in the bin and there you are, how does anyone know
    that the rubble in the bin actually is "FLT93" or is it simply a bin full of junk?

    If you can not produce a link to an inventory, then for all you know
    there is NO inventory.
     
  16. genericBob

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    Two large buildings as much as self-destruct, and YOU
    have to ask "why would then need to?" as in taking the time to examine WHY
    the buildings did what they did. Fact is that in any event such as the destruction
    of the WTC towers, the least likely out-come is total destruction, the more likely
    out-come(s) are events that may be very damaging, but not leading to total destruction
    of the tower(s). Engineers should be VERY interested in analyzing the events, in order
    to learn from the "collapse" so as to be able to build better structures in the future.
    The very fact that you say "why would they need to?" makes a statement about how
    you think, and indeed how you think about these events, that is the building collapses
    on 9/11/2001.
     
  17. Hannibal

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    You are aware that the NIST reports were for exactly that purpose, aren't you? They aren't crime reports: they are engineering reports for the purpose of building better structures in the future.

    The architects of the new WTC7 relied heavily on the recommendations of NIST.
     
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    They didn't 'self destruct' in any way....and engineers DID analyze the event,they knew what caused the collapses

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    Ask United Airlines....the FBI returned the remains of the jet to them.
     
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    and YOU really trust the NIST?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEcG3zC9w7g

    whatever ........
     
  20. genericBob

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    First of all, the official report
    contains the bit "total collapse was inevitable after collapse initiation"
    and YOU actually believe this stuff?

    and the FBI returned what was left of "FLT93" to United Airlines?
    and again this is a matter of blind faith that there even was any "FLT93" at all.
    You trust what you are told by the "FBI" & our "leaders" ?
    Question EVERYTHING!
     
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    It doesn't matter if I do or don't. The people that design and construct buildings trust them and their findings.
     
  22. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Less than 1% of the engineering community.

    :roll:

    Not very impressive...
     
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    What percentage of the engineering community has said absolutely nothing, one way or the other?

    psik
     
  24. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    You truthers have been at this for almost 13 years. Look at all the truth campaigns, protests, movies, forums, billboards, pamphlets, and supposed evidence you folks have spewed out to the public in that timeframe.

    Gage is paying himself over $80,000 a year for a vaca... err... truth campaign.

    Yet with all this "effort", you folks have NOTHING. All you can garner is less that 1% of the engineering community. Pathetic. Just goes to show you how lame your evidence actually is. You can hardly convince ANYONE to believe your garbage.
     
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    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Furthermore, the truther community can't even agree on how it was supposedly done!

    Nukes, missiles, holograms, planes, explosives, thermite, space beams, etc. Everyone is looking to be the one to "crack the case" and get their piece of the conspiracy fame and fortune pie.

    Just terrible.
     

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