WWII - Eastern Front - General Remer

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  1. RUS

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    To be fair, I must remind you.

    .... "they" fight exactly for it:
    "That's what the Germans wanted to protect, as they saw it coming."
    It is a fact.

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  2. Flare

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    Communism = not Russian

    Russia was overtaken by the Bolsheviks from the inside out and changed the name or Russia into the "Soviet Union", and sent Christian Russians to the gulags by the millions.

    Besides that, most of the territory Germany would have taken from the Soviets was empty land anyway. They would have made something really nice out of it.
    After Germany lost and all of Eastern Europe became communist, it didn't make things better either; most countries in East-Europe are still very poor due to their communist past. However, they have become a bit more Nationalist as they know what happens when they get under communism.
     
  3. Jazz

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    This is too funny:

    Originally Posted by Adolf Hitler
    ".....And so we National Socialists consciously draw a line beneath the foreign policy tendency of our pre-War period. We take up where we broke off six hundred years ago. We stop the endless German movement to the south and west, and turn our gaze toward the land in the east. At long last we break of the colonial and commercial policy of the pre-War period and shift to the soil policy of the future.
    If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal border states.”
    "That's what the Germans wanted to protect, as they saw it coming."


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    At least provide us with a link, Sir RUS. I would like to know when and where he wrote that. This "land in the east" is just as elusive of an expression as is the "Endloesung", but both are supposed to prove Germany's guilt.
     
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    So many walls of text,so little caring.
    Nazis are bad,mmk?
    I am willing to fight to the death for Jewish Americans.Black Americans, too.
    All Americans for that matter.
    Here's a song from Jello Biaffro:
    [video=youtube;-MkRuV0aCcI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MkRuV0aCcI[/video]
     
  5. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Nazis were the best,
    especially the SS!

    50 000 000 Americans
    are my closest fans!

    But, what happened to you, America?
    You are no longer sweet and "wunderbar" !

    Your "music" is just loud and rude;
    Does it reflect your attitude?



    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...F3EEE35C1BDD4F1E7667F3EEE35C1BDD4&FORM=VRDGAR
     
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  7. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aw, loosen up, Mister Rogers, its all fun and humor.

    Q: Why do they bury Germans 20 meters underground?
    A: Because deep down they are really nice. :wink:

    Q: How did the Germans conquer Poland so fast?
    A: They marched in backwards and the Polish thought they were leaving.

    Have a nice Sunday, Mr. Rogers.
     
  8. Jazz

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    Well, well, Mister RUS, you should listen to the video below where Viktor Suvorov gives a lecture to an audience in the US. And he talks about WHO started the Second WW. You need patience and listen the whole 50 minutes. He gives his audience a slideshow with great photos of tanks, soldiers, comics and wristwatches. He speaks English with a Russian accent.
    You will be astounded about one decisive fact on Stalin's side. I don't want to give it away... you need to hear it from him.

    So, here is the video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbBnRZoTHFs
     
  9. Jazz

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    Thanks for the honorable mention, Flare.

    Today I came upon a fantastic video from the Russian war historian, Viktor Suvorov. It is a must watch for any of us, whether Russian, German or American. Suvorov has a great sense of humor and is never boring to listen to. I sure learned a few new facts and am dumbstruck how Hitler could be so naive.(around minute 12-16)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbBnRZoTHFs
     
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    Will check the vid Jazz!

    I see it's part of the site "justice4germans" which has an enormous wealth of information regarding WW II... damn shame the site has got problems, as it can only be watched on mobile phone lately.

    People have tried to contact the owner of the site, but no-one knows about his whereabouts.
     
  11. Jazz

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    That sounds alarming! He could be on holiday or he was hauled off. I frequent voltaire network and they have been silent for quite a while. only one new post from Thierry Meyssan lately. Strange.

    Anyway, I like the Viktor Suvorov guy and have checked out what else he has. Have you heard about his book "Icebreaker"? Here is a short review, very interesting!


    http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/04/viktor-suvorovs-icebreaker/
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    That is now all water under the bridge.
    The brave German soldiers saved at least half of Europe from becoming Communistic! It wasn't all in vain. But what is happening now? Europe has a new foe... Multiculturalism.
     
  12. Flare

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    Hey Jazz,

    Yea, I heard of his book "Icebreaker" in which was described that Stalin was building an offensive army, ready to invade all of Europe while the Germans were fighting the British.

    But I've just watched the presentation and found out some remarkable things. Like, I didn't know Stalin was a bankrobber in his early days. :eyepopping:

    And that he had set-up Hitler as the fall-guy upon invading Poland, as he made an agreement they would invade on 1 September 1939, which the Germans did and Stalin suddenly said 'we're not ready yet' and halted their invasion, so therefore war only was declared on Germany.

    Still makes me wonder about what was going on in the Danzig corridor tho, as I had read there were lots of trouble and violence against ethnic Germans there which the Polish government didn't do anything about? I already checked some in the "White Book" by the way which describes all the political fuss and some of the crimes going on there... Do you have some more information on that perhaps?
     
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    I gave a link. [​IMG]

    There it is a link third time.
    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/index.html
    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv2ch14.html

    If this is not the correct translation, then let the site with the correct translation, that you like, meine kleine Hase. [​IMG]
     
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    I did not learn anything new, but it is a Good movie. I realized on hearing almost everything.
    Almost everything that says Suvorov – is the truth. Almost is all.
    I add that, what he keeps silent.

    1) The coat of the USSR was approved by in 1923. The Coat USSR has been done by Lenin Trotsky, Kamenev, Bukharin and other great leaders. Stalin at this time was not a great leader. Stalin was a manager for the distribution of party workers in the party.Stalin killed All of these leaders, who did not die a natural death, . (And rightly so). They believed that the proletarians of all countries dream to the Soviet Union freed them from the bourgeoisie.
    Stalin ceased to believe in these nonsense in the time of war with Finland.

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    2)I repeat my post from the other branches( unanswered). This is my answer to you and Suvorov.
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    Those 'great' leaders you all name there were Jews, NOT Russians.. it was a foreign entity which had taken over your country which sent it to tyranny.

    In the meantime, I requested a copy of your brainscan from your doctor and received the below picture... it is now clear to me what's going on with you:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Finish reading my post until the end. What are you not understand?

     
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    I see Commies.
    Nasty Commies,go away.
    [video=youtube;T834Uvg5BG8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T834Uvg5BG8[/video]
     
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    Where are you looking? In what direction? Where have you seen here Commies? In a Hollywood movie?:smile:

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    OH Wow... Patrick Swayze from Dirty Dancing is playing the driver!
    Sorry, I can't waste an hour and a half watching a Hollywood movie, maybe tonight.
     
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    I am astonished that people in this day and age have the gall to try and make the Nazi's appear to be benevolent and innocent.
    You may as well say that the Khmer Rouge were Samaritans.
     
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    Yes, that was news to me, too. Russia seemed to be quite the "Hinterland", with robberies and murder occurring daily. People were very poor. It wasn't much better in Germany among the peasants who slaved for the big landowners. Hitler changed much to the betterment of the common worker. That's why his "Volk" loved and followed him.
    But the real crux of the matter was that now Hitler alone was guilty of starting WW2. Right then he should have kept marching on and slain the Communist dragon!
    Well, this was German land given to the Poles after WWI, and lots of those ethnic Germans stayed within the new Poland. The Germans are by large hard working and clean people... they always strive to better their lot. That creates jealousy and greed by others.
    There was no "Corridor" yet to Danzig. Hitler wanted to establish a land connection from the remaining Reich to the Eastern parts that were cut off. But Poland refused to grant him that request, although it was only the width of a road and a rail line. Hitler even offered compensation. But no, the Poles actually never responded to several offers. Instead they prepared for war, hiding their ships in England.
    No, I don't. I know some personal stories from after the war. Some of it you can read here, kind of generalized.

    http://www.ihr.org/other/july09weber.html

    It was sheer horror when the Germans were fleeing from far East Prussia during the winter of 1944/45... some perished, some made it to the West. Woe to those who stayed in hopes the Russians wouldn't be so bad.
     
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    Stalin was the organizer. He could not rob , because he was disabled. He was not taken into the army. He was mutilated left hand. Since childhood.
    I add information about Stalin.
    1) Stalin's father is a shoemaker (and alcoholic).
    Stalin studied at the seminary. If he had not become a revolutionary, he would become a priest.

    3) The youngest son Vasily fought on the front. The commander of an aviation regiment. Was injured. He liked to drink.
    Khrushchev put him in prison.

    4) Stalin was afraid to fly on airplanes.


    6) Stalin played a decisive role in creating the state of Israel. Portraits of Stalin were in Israeli homes. (Some even now).

    7) anecdote (joke) about Stalin.

     
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    The site with the more correct translation of Mein Kampf is absent.
    Hence my translation have the right. Yes?:smile:
     
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    Stalin was a bankrobber before he became the leader of the USSR:

    [​IMG]
     
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    That is a sentence best served upon yourself.
     

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