Yemeni Muslim child bride dies of internal bleeding on wedding night

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  1. Margot2

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    The nomads bred livestock.. They were well aware of a girl conceiving too young.
     
  2. Face. Your

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    Then photographic evidence to that effect should be easy to come by, I'll continue to wait.
     
  3. lizarddust

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    *facepalm*

    You must be another product of the wonderful American education system. Niger and Nigeria are two totally different countries. Nigeria isn't even on the list given.
     
  4. Margot2

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    I don't have any photos except old black and whites of bedu women who aren't wearing the veil.

    If you knew anything about KSA and its infrastructure development over the past 70 years, you would know why they don't drive YET.

    But with the completion of the highway plaza I think they will be driving in the future.

    I never wore a veil or abaya in KSA.. although I did dress modestly.

    There were some 60,000 hadiths written some 250 years after the death of Muhammed.. Most are not authenticated.
     
  5. donquixote99

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    Nobody owns the Ancient Egyptians, and it's folly to argue over who is or ins't descended from them. Genetics matters only to genes. Are you a gene?

    Same goes for you, Face.
     
  6. Margot2

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    The Jews borrowed from Egypt, Sumer and the Ugarit.
     
  7. lizarddust

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    I feel the same about Malaysia, except I find it's not a ****hole. We've spent a bit of time there the last eight or nine years. I wouldn't mind a little retirement house on the beach in Penang and hang there for a year or so.
     
  8. truth and justice

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    Same in Iraq. Two bothers I know did not know who was the oldest out of them and only in the last few years did they find out who was the eldest. One thinks he must have been born in the summer of 1938. I dont know when the other was born and I stil dont understand how they did not know who was the eldest.
     
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    Agreed but they were actually Canaanites at that time, the biblical narrative is a fiction.

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    Every single one of the women shown are in full burka some with their veils down ready to go up the second the police for the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice are in view. :roll: But tell me more of gender and religious equality in the Kingdom. lol
     
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    And this is somehow an answer to the numerous Hadiths placing the age of consummation at 9. :roll: Again which of the five schools of Islamic jurisprudence puts the age of consent above 9 under the Sharia?
     
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    Well he was a Jew but he was, also, a Roman citizen who wrote with a Roman bias, the story of the siege was a clear attempt at justifying the unjustifiable occupation of Judea, the destruction of the temple, and the expulsion of the Jews.

    The whole region is not Arab, the Arabs didn't expand out of the Arabian Peninsula until the Islamic Conquests, the original inhabitants are still in existence in the region including the Jews, the Assyrians, the Maronites, the Copts, the Berbers, etc etc.

    Genetic studies show that approximately 80% of modern Jewish males and 50% of of modern Jewish females have a distinct genetic lineage traced to a core population group centered in the neolithic Levant.

    To deny the Jewish identity consisting of a shared history, culture, language, and in most cases religion and ancestry, is to deny the Jewish people the right of self determination and is borderline anti-Semitic, but I would expect nothing less from those who refer to the holocaust as the holohoax; such as, you.

    So then your assertion that the commandments are Egyptian is based on absolutely nothing, good to know.

    Failure to back your claim immediately followed by an ad-hom logical fallacy, touche sir touche.

    Let's hear it. :)

    Absolutely, yes I can, in fact let's ask Aisha herself:

    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.
    Abu Dawud 41:4915

    Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
    Sahih Bukhari 7:62:65

    Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
    Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64

    "Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."
    Abu-Dawud 2:2116

    Ethnic cleansing that entails an exponential population growth within the disputed territories and Israel proper with a nearly 30% Arab-Israeli population with full and equal rights and better living standards than ANYWHERE in the Arab world as proven by life expectancy and infant mortality rates.

    You're a holocaust denier.

    Actually unlike in the Islamic world child marriage is illegal in Israel, but unlike the Islamic world they don't murder gay people for being gay, or women for having sex, now I know that might seem like a strange concept to 5th century reprobates in the Arab world, but in the civilized world it is a matter of equal rights a concept with which Islam is incompatible with.

    I hate Sharia law, I rather like the pluralistic liberal democracy of Israel which in actuality is a tiny island of liberty surrounded by a sea of Arab tyranny, oppression, cultural genocide, apartheid and bigotry.

    See the comma? It's YOUR FACE, as in so's your face.
     
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    Looks like you finally figured out who josephus is. About time you read a little bit.
    That's a bunch of crap.

    Arabs were arabs before islam even exists.
    well 100% of all mankind is genetically human and 100% of all jewish adherants learned to be 'jew' and not a single one was born, by any gene, with a religion of 'judaism' as their ethnicity.

    ie... 'jew' is a religious designation and not a genetic one. Only bigots, punks and idiots think that a person is born 'jew'.

    ie... hitler and you apparently have a bunch in common; biased bigotry!
    Note the key word ..." self".

    You read on josephus, why not read on the commands and their origins? Does it scare you?
    You cant ask aisha and to suggest that, is a lie

    Then "cohabitation" is not rape, nor intercourse, neither approving of either.

    funny

    nothing there of quran, muhammad and are translations by people of anothers works.

    Kind of like you ranting that muhammad is a pedophile but actually have no idea, except to read fromm someone elses opinion. You are basically of 'false witness' as oooosual.
    stupid crack pot claims

    Saudi arabia is far more modern and has about the same equal rights as israel
    in israel, the women cannot bang their heads on the same wall as men.

    I guess that means israel is neanderthal, in reference to equality
     
  14. truth and justice

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    More evidence of the indoctrination. You asked for evidence from Margot2 for "Certainly I know women who show their face in public.", yet when shown a photo of several women showing their faces while shopping in public in the capital city of Saudi Arabia you are blind. You think those women are all in full burka? Hmm. Now you change the subject - tactic often used.

    There are loads of similar photos there in the link for you to ignore the reality
     
  15. lizarddust

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    Subsistence agriculture is not the major means of production in Saudi Arabia, unlike Bangladesh for example.
     
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    The infant mortality rate has fallen steadily since the malaria eradication of the 1940s.
     
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    All the Islamophobes bring that up. The fact is that Mohammed took several dozen wives, mainly for political reasons, and the next youngest was in her mid-teens, so he was hardly a textbook paedophile. Given the political prominence of Aisha at and after the death of the prophet, a religious person could even argue the marriage was necessary so that the Caliphate could be successfully established (sort of like a Christian martyr).
     
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    Duh..............
    If you're a civilized human being, you will HATE a forty year old man screwing an eight year old child.

    There is no defense for it........none.
     
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    I read someone stated that Muslims can consider the Haddith (the book that tells of Mohammed's life) is imperfect and it is possible to think much of it as incorrect. This Muslim preferred to believe the Haddith incorrect in this instance, rather than thinking a 50 year old man had sex, however seemingly justified, with a 9 year old. I don't know if you ever heard this argument before. Looking for link. Ran into another reading that Aisha was no less than 14 when she married.

    Either way, saying if she was 9 and a rape victim, that simply makes her like a Christian martyr is, I think, an unfortunate analogy for reasons most posters in this thread would find evident.
     
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    Minimum marriage age to be raised in Yemen...
    :thumbsup:
    Yemen child death sparks debate over marriage age
    Mon, Sep 16, 2013 - TOO YOUNG: Before Yemen unified, the legal age of marriage was set as 15 in the north and 16 in the south, but the united nation does not specify an age limit
     
  21. truth and justice

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    Only the naive will believe that this thread is about a "forty year old man screwing an eight year old child".
     
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    What a load of crap. We can read history, we can analyze it, we can come with an answer, but it seem obvious now that <you do not>!

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    Why don't you tell us then, what it is all about since I am not <naive> but rather in the dark.
     
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    Does it feel good to scream 'I'm right and you're wrong!'

    Do you think it proves anything?



    same thing
     
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    Not sure of the point of your post, but do you really think that the purpose of MGB roadster post was to highlight the disgusting cultural child marriages that occur in places all around the world or was it as an attack on one particular religion? Fake outrage.......
     

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