You believe in God because...

Carter kept a lid on spending. When he left office the national debt was still less than a trillion dollars. Raygun almost tripled the debt in eight years, after promising to balance the budget in his first term. He never submitted one single balanced budget.

Shrub daddy doubled the national debt in only four years, and started the Iraq war after Raygun sold chemical weapons to Saddam.

Shrub Jr. doubled the debt again, and killed a million innocent civilians in the Iraq war, which he started with lies about yellow cake. He destroyed all American credibility, and also destroyed not only the U.S. economy, but also the global economy.

Carter was a saint compared to your con POTUS's. You slander Carter like you do Jesus.

 

Wow, its quite obvious that you don't reside on planet earth. No one could be that ignorant of the facts without first dropping an acid pill or two.

 

Jesus was a liberal? Thats amazing that you know that! Please, where is the proof?

 

Agreed

 

Please stop with the "you condemn yourself" talk. We are here to debate rationally. Not to judge someone we don't actually know. I also doubt Jesus would be a liberal because he doesn't side with any one group of people. He represents perfection and that is something no human on earth has.

 

Amen! I agree with you completely.

 

It's amazing that you don't know it. Jesus was all about giving to the poor, feeding the hungry, helping the elderly, healing the sick. ALL of those, cons like the hater appose. THAT IS WHY HE CONDEMNS HIMSELF, not me. if you disagree, eh.....That's YOUR problem.

 

I don't think there is any way of getting through to your thicker than normal skull. Conservative Christians such as myself do not need to rely on big government or wealth redistribution (which is stealing) in order to help the poor, the unborns and the elderly. The liberal/atheist way to help our elderly is to make sure they pull the plug on the infirmed via euthanasia, and to kill our babies before they have a chance to breathe GOD's magnificent air, and to keep welfare recipients slaves to a cradle to grave existence with no hope of ever lifting their own boats through hard work, self confidence, will power, individual initiative and inspirational incentives. Face facts libhangover, you're an indentured slave to big government; you never really could think or act on your own without Uncle Sam being right there to help you when you're having a hissy fit or problem with a hang nail.

 

MANY people are for the listed items. Liberals did NOT exist when he was around. I seriously doubt he cares about being part of and being CLAIMED by some group when he loves everyone unconditionally.

 

Someone get rid of this troll please.

 

I'm afraid he'll have to bow out all by his lonesome. Don't count on it though since trolls of this magnitude know they have nothing else to offer than total nonsense.

 

A troll is a dink that butts in a conversation to defend a poor mindless hater.

 

Not the definition of a troll. Which once again shows you have no real facts. Try debating the actual topic instead of coming at the people talking about it.

 

If we accept that Christ personified the idea of Truth being the lord over mankind, then the spirit of truth has spread over all the world today and the fulfillment of the prophecies in regard to Truth becoming Lord over all the world has come true, de facto.

In spite that people and nations argue about what is the truth, it is the fact now that once the Truth in any issue has been established, people will act upon it.

The American civil rights issue of 1965 is an example where the nation and the whole culture changed once the case of the assassination of Rev Martin Luther King focused the people on bring forth their verdict.

 

This post is NOT on topic, troll.

 

S'pose I never thought much about it, but you're right. If nobody had ever introduced me to the Deity and all things religious, I don't think I'd EVER have thought it up myself...I mean it's just too bizarre. I certainly would have thought up something* more practical to base a way of living upon.

* - Something along the lines of taking care of business...loving my community...minding my own business. Nothing there to justify some god butting in to muck up the thing with rules n' stuff.

 

Was that one?

 

You're right...it's "belief" and "faith" not facts ....so still no proof of a god or gods...and no reason for beleivers to foist their "belief" on to others...


BTW, many other people with grave illnesses recover and survive...and many others die...that's life...NOT divine intervention (or do you really think you're that special?)

 

Your whole post says that belief in a god or gods is really silly....then you post...""No God? Indeed?"""

You've got me confused........but (shrug) still no proof of a god or gods....

 

Why do people assume a religious reality, without any empirical data? I can assume things until the day I die, but why if you can't validate it? Why not build a foundation of reality on what can be known? Is satisfaction more important then our known truth?

 

This thread is not about "proof" of any god, it's about "belief" in god. It's not about believing in god being silly, it's about the "cause" people have for believing in god. Atheists should should start their own thread for those topics.

 

Belief is based on postulation, but why assert it in the first place?

 

Because that is what the op wanted to discuss. If YOU don't want to, don't. Find another thread, or start one that you can relate to.

 

My question relates to the topic though....its the origin/need for belief that needs examining, not why or how you can justify the belief.