You don't have to like gays to support gay marriage.

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    A womb that requires a man to make the woman a mother. If a married lesbian woman gets knocked up by some guy at the club, her spouse has no legal relationship with the child. No obligation of support. That still lies with the man who fathered the child.
     
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    They PROCREATE for one adding new TAXPAYERS, WORKERS, INVENTORS, SCIENTISTS etc. (the list goes on and on). Heterosexual couples also represent what is NORMAL and NATURAL for the human species thereby promoting a NORMAL, HEALTHY society. Homosexual couples are ONLY about aberrant sexual behavior. Sorry but, those are the FACTS.
     
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    But how does that even contribute? Those kids will draw from public services, like education, healthcare, welfare programs, etc.

    If anything, homosexual couples pay the same or higher taxes and use fewer services.

    Unless he is suggesting there is some sort of dire population shortage which I have not heard about.
     
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    As I said, procreation means the family will use more government resources, not less.

    There are plenty of poor children out there in orphanages who could be new TAXPAYERS, WORKERS, INVENTORS, SCIENTISTS etc., if they were given a loving home with the resources, regardless of the sexes of their parents, instead of growing up to be rough-and-tumble criminals.

    You literally have not a single leg to stand on with these claims.
     
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    By providing more stable homes to the next generation they create. Homosexual couples dont create children. At most, one of the homosexuals and a third party created any child.
     
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    A lesbian that gets knocked up by a male is not truly a lesbian but a confused person in need of counseling.
     
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    Yeah, heterosexuals create the children, but no guarantee they are providing "more stable homes"; in fact heterosexual couples often produce children they can't take care of property, becoming dependent on government resources while the kids grow up to be criminals.

    Homosexual couples, on the other hand, fix the problem heterosexuals created by having too many children, and provide the loving, stable homes for those kids for them to succeed.
     
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    And marriage of those who do the procreating, exclusively heterosexual couples, helps cut down on the amount of government resources that will be required.
     
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    Uh, no, it doesn't....it means the couple will be paying less taxes, not more.
     
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    Just WHERE to you think 'government resources' come from anyway? Do you think they just magically appear? In America 'government' is We The People and PEOPLE are produced from PROCREATION and PROCREATION can only happen between MEN and WOMEN. How is it some folks can't grasp this concept? Has the mental disorder that is liberalism completely taken over their minds?

    Gays can adopt in many states however, the criminal element across America hasn't declined.



    You literally have not a single leg to stand on with these claims.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Government resources come from taxes...which LGBTQ people pay more of than their straight counterparts, in exchange for less resources.


    Sure it does, each and every kid adopted by a loving family, gay or straight, has a much better chance of success in life than if he or she is homeless living on the streets or in an orphanage.

    Of course it will be much better when gays are free to marry and adopt openly in every state.
     
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    You've got it backwards. Individuals who work and pay taxes and who don't get to take advantage of the dozens of financial benefits bestowed by government marriage are the ones who contribute more. You, like the rest of the liberals, want the government nanny to engineer a society to your liking.
     
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    I've unequivocally stated my position for you numerous times. All consenting adult citizens of the United States are equal under the law. Period. I can't make it any simpler for you.
     
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    Should the government be involved in promoting and legitimating and celebrating the homosexual life style? Do we really need to subject young children to gay activist propaganda? Do we really need government-approved homosexual marriage? Should we be subject to harassment from the PC thought police?

    1) Should we deceive our children at taxpayer expense?

    Protect your children from 'Harvey Milk Gay Day'

    "Transgender, Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian Awareness Day"

    Who supports this?!

    2) The academic establishment lacks tolerance for those who deviate from the politically correct party line regarding homosexuality.

    GAY ORTHODOXY AND ACADEMIC HERESY

    3) Should we celebrate homosexuality, which doesn’t produce life but all too often a painful death?

    CDC Analysis Provides New Look at Disproportionate Impact of HIV and Syphilis Among U.S. Gay and Bisexual Men

    Gay, bisexual men still at high risk for HIV-study

    There’s no reason to think that homosexual unions would prevent this public health disaster. After all homosexuals have been free to hold private wedding ceremonies and this hasn’t stopped the appalling death toll.

    SAME SEX MARRIAGE: Til Death Do Us Part?

    4) If you do not submit to government-approved homosexual marriage you will be punished. Already freedoms are being lost.

    Scholars from some of the nation’s most respected law schools have written that the issue implicates a host of issues, ranging from religious liberty, to individual expression of faith, to education and the professions.

    Why does our decadent upper class seek to impose this latest cultural fad on the rest of us? Elites are not concerned with young men trapped in this dangerous lifestyle. The elite is bent on pushing working people out of the Democratic Party so the elite can safely ignore the needs of working people.
     
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    Should the government be involved in promoting and legitimating and celebrating the homosexual life style? Do we really need to subject young children to gay activist propaganda? Do we really need government-approved homosexual marriage? Should we be subject to harassment from the PC thought police?

    1) Should we deceive our children at taxpayer expense?

    Protect your children from 'Harvey Milk Gay Day'

    "Transgender, Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian Awareness Day"

    Who supports this?!

    2) The academic establishment lacks tolerance for those who deviate from the politically correct party line regarding homosexuality.

    GAY ORTHODOXY AND ACADEMIC HERESY

    3) Should we celebrate homosexuality, which doesn’t produce life but all too often a painful death?

    CDC Analysis Provides New Look at Disproportionate Impact of HIV and Syphilis Among U.S. Gay and Bisexual Men

    Gay, bisexual men still at high risk for HIV-study

    There’s no reason to think that homosexual unions would prevent this public health disaster. After all homosexuals have been free to hold private wedding ceremonies and this hasn’t stopped the appalling death toll.

    SAME SEX MARRIAGE: Til Death Do Us Part?

    4) If you do not submit to government-approved homosexual marriage you will be punished. Already freedoms are being lost.

    Scholars from some of the nation’s most respected law schools have written that the issue implicates a host of issues, ranging from religious liberty, to individual expression of faith, to education and the professions.

    Why does our decadent upper class seek to impose this latest cultural fad on the rest of us? Elites are not concerned with young men trapped in this dangerous lifestyle. The elite is bent on pushing working people out of the Democratic Party so the elite can safely ignore the needs of working people.
     
  17. Bow To The Robots

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    Here's a better question: Do we really need government-approved marriage of any kind?
     
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    No, I don't see why its anyone's business what someone else does--especially the government's. I also don't think we need to waste money on special days or force a cookie cutter educational system.
     
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    Something smells fishy about this Fascist post.
     
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    Not a bad question. I don't know what the current laws accomplish, mostly enriching divorce lawyers I suppose.
     
  21. Bow To The Robots

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    Heh heh. For sure. ;)
     
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    LBGTO people are an evolutionary dead end and should pay more taxes.

    Where are the stats to prove your claim?

    Gays are free to marry right now they just can't get a marriage license in many states yet, all we hear are platitudes about how things will be much better if gays can get marriage licenses and how they will adopt more if they force We the People to grant them State marriage licenses. Sounds more like coercion to me than caring for kids.
     
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    So people should pay more taxes for using up less resources...makes sense, NOT.

    Look 'em up yourself, if you think kids are better off on the streets and in shelters than in a loving stable family home, that's your problem.


    Things will be much better when gays can get marriage licenses, yes.
     
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    So people should pay more taxes for using up less resources...makes sense, NOT.

    Look 'em up yourself, if you think kids are better off on the streets and in shelters than in a loving stable family home, that's your problem.


    Things will be much better when gays can get marriage licenses, yes.
     
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    'Individuals' are created by heterosexual mating not by homosexuals mimicking heterosexual sex. Therefore, heterosexuals contribute much more to society than homosexuals. It is normal and natural for a society to favor procreational (male female) couples, it is not 'engineering'.....That would more accurately define the homosexual activists wanting to 'engineer' marriage to fit their sexual desires.
     
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