Young adults today: No school, no job, living at home with mom and dad

Strange how the right wing mind works if one can call it working. 10-20% of the population control 90% of the wealth, yet it is the poor who are stealing from the wealthy. 50% of the working class work for wages that do not even require them to pay taxes yet it is the wealthy that need tax cuts. But is the poor that receive "welfare", not the wealthy.

To paraphrase your comment:

"When it comes to bailing out failed banks "Conservatives" are all too eager to ignore the moral hazards, yet when it comes to bailing out failed individuals "Conservatives" are always eager to let them die."

 

Actually, the Founders were quite liberal in their concept of what America should stand for. They supported taxing only the wealthy. The created free education. They provided housing for the poor, and even free medical care. They supported laws that would prevent income inequality. They believed corporations should be limited, and denied participation in politics. They opposed a permanent standing army, one which most "conservatives" now avoid serving in. They opposed involvement in foreign matters, and wars.

That is what made the country successful, not what you stand for. And you have consistently demonstrated you lack the intelligence to understand what the Constitution stands for, or the Founders.

 

They've been scammed by the university system that tells them that a degree is the way to a better life, enlightenment and prosperity. A lot of these children believe this and so they take the easy way out and easy degrees believing that any degree will help them get ahead.

It's been my experience that an honorable discharge is worth far more than a liberal arts degree. I've had several interns the last several years at my job....There are some bright kids out there...however, most don't feel it's important to show up on time, are consistently 15 - 30 minutes late and don't think anything is wrong with it. They also tend to believe that I have nothing to teach them, since I never went to college myself.

In the last 4 years I've had one intern survive the summer, that's out of about a dozen interns. That's less than 10% of candidates of candidates that made it in the real world, she actually got her engineering degree and works for the company. And before you ask, no she is not what anyone would call pretty, but she is sharp and intelligent.

 

What's this? Provide links...



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We never claimed their was free police or firemen, it is the left trying to Hoodwink the uninformed voters that single payer is free, that college's can be free..


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Of course I have taken Civic courses , it appears the left never traveled by car , bike or walked 50 miles away from their homes.

Once again the fly over states really can't stand the left in the cities..

 

Pure envy ...

 

The police are free. Firefighters are free. Why not postsecondary education ... ?

 

Envy lol, I was born in Chicago and raised in the burbs, left the corruption when I was 38 to freedom..low taxes, low cost of living and great jobs of South Carolina and a home on a lake.


So who has envy?



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Look police, firefighters, ambulances, etc., etc., etc are all PUBLIC SERVICES.

Primary and secondary schooling is a Public Service! So should be tertiary education ... !

 

Because the college's are in cahoots with the Democrats ...that's why it cost so much.


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This is a debate-forum. The subject is much larger than just YOU ...

 

Uhm I have millions on my side

 

That's the problem the left is stuck in a rat race in the cities, they feel if they can't get out they want trickle up misery for all 50 states..


They can't stand redneck's making $12~$20 an hour and being able to afford a house, have guns ATVs , bass boats , pick up trucks..why they are paying $1,300 bucks a month for a closet apartment and can barely afford it.


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how can the poor have any wealth of their own when the liberals have conditioned them to mooch off the welfare state, when idiotic liberal policies have shipped their jobs off shore, when other liberal policies have attacked their schools, families, and religion rendering them unfit to work and acquiring wealth??

 

you cant cut taxes on the working class if they don't pay taxes!! 1+1=2

 

if this is true why so afraid to present your best example?? Actually welfare by definition is for those with little to no income not for those who are wealthy. Do you understand?

 

how can creating a tiny tiny govt with a million safeguards against it becoming a big govt be considered liberal??? Did you think they were worried about the Girl Scouts taking away your freedom of speech?

 

1) almost no tax were needed since the govt was so tiny, about 1% the size of today's on a per capita inflation adjusted basis

2) "There are two distinct classes of men - those who pay taxes and those who receive and live upon taxes.
Thomas Paine

"We still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping at the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised to furnish new pretenses for revenue and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without a tribute."
-- Thomas Paine

3) Under the Framer's plan, whenever the monies arising from Congress' normal taxing powers (imposts duties and excises) are found insufficient to fund federal expenditures during a fiscal year, and a deficit is produced by Congress borrowing to finance expenditures, Congress must then use its direct taxing power at the beginning of next fiscal year to raise an amount sufficient to retire this deficit.

Congress is required to follow the rules of apportionment when imposing this tax, and bills each state for a share of the deficit. Each State must contribute a share of the total deficit in proportion to its allotted number of Representatives as set forth in Article I, Section 2, clause 3, of the United Constitution. The more votes a State exercises in the House, the larger is its share toward extinguishing a deficit . . . representation with proportional obligation!

 

On taxation: Section 8 - The Text
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

These taxes were paid by the rich, and the rich only since the average person did not import, or export, goods.

"Revenue on the consumption of foreign articles is paid cheerfully by those who can afford to add foreign luxuries to domestic comforts... These contributions enable us to support the current expenses of the government, to fulfil contracts with foreign nations, to extinguish the native right of soil within our limits, to extend those limits, and to apply such a surplus to our public debts, as places at a short day their final redemption. And that redemption once effected, the revenue thereby liberated may, by a just repartition among the states and a corresponding amendment of the Constitution, be applied in time of peace to rivers, canals, roads, arts, manufactures, education, and other great objects within each state. In time of war, if injustice by ourselves or others must sometimes produce war, increased as the same revenue will be increased by population and consumption and aided by other resources reserved for that crisis, it may meet within the year all the expenses of the year without encroaching on the rights of future generations by burdening them with the debts of the past. War will then be but a suspension of useful works, and a return to a state of peace, a return to the progress of improvement." -Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural, 1805. ME 3:376

"The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied... Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings." --Thomas Jefferson to Thaddeus Kosciusko, 1811.

On Public Welfare:

"The poor who have neither property, friends, nor strength to labor, are boarded in the houses of good farmers, to whom a stipulated sum is annually paid. To those who are able to help themselves a little, or have friends from whom they derive some succor, inadequate however to their full maintenance, supplementary aids are given which enable them to livecomfortably in their own houses, or in the houses of theirfriends. --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

On Public Education:

"The tax which will be paid for [the] purpose [of education] is not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid to kings, priests and nobles who will rise up among us if we leave the people in ignorance." --Thomas Jefferson to George Wythe, 1786.

Benjamin Franklin established the first taxpayer funded public hospital for the poor:

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...in-franklin-have-to-do-with-obamacare/280735/

 

No, but they were worried that people like Trump might.

 

if so why is the liberal so afraid to present where it said free education in the Constitution example????

Constitutional Requirements Governing American Education ...
education.stateuniversity.com/.../Constitutional-Requirements-Governing- American-Education.html
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The right to a free public education is found in the various state constitutions and not in the federal constitution. , ..

 

and that made them liberal according to you?? Do you favor a standing army? You want to wait until North Korea launches a nuclear weapon before we form a standing army? Do you see why we say that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

 

James Madison:

The great object [of political parties] should be to combat the evil: 1. By establishing a political equality among all. 2. By withholding unnecessary opportunities from a few, to increase the inequality of property, by an immoderate, and especially an unmerited, accumulation of riches. 3. By the silent operation of laws, which, without violating the rights of property, reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity, and raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort.....

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."


George Washington:

[America] “will not be less advantageous to the happiness of the lowest class of people, because of the equal distribution of property.”

Thomas Jefferson:

"I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable. But the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. The descent of property of every kind therefore to all the children, or to all the brothers and sisters, or other relations in equal degree is a politic measure, and a practicable one. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labour and live on. If, for the encouragement of industry we allow it to be appropriated, we must take care that other employment be furnished to those excluded from the appropriation. If we do not the fundamental right to labour the earth returns to the unemployed. It is too soon yet in our country to say that every man who cannot find employment but who can find uncultivated land, shall be at liberty to cultivate it, paying a moderate rent. But it is not too soon to provide by every possible means that as few as possible shall be without a little portion of land."

 

actually free speech is openly restricted by liberals all across America today, not by Trump. Want to compare examples or is time for you to run away again?