Zelensky called on NATO to carry out preventive (Nuclear) strikes against Russia

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Bill Carson, Oct 6, 2022.

  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,509
    Likes Received:
    6,752
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why? I was always considered an interesting and innovative teacher.
     
  2. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2015
    Messages:
    17,453
    Likes Received:
    2,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No you didnt
     
    Bill Carson likes this.
  3. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2015
    Messages:
    17,453
    Likes Received:
    2,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Bro nobody cares

    Smh
     
    Bill Carson likes this.
  4. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes coup in Belarus would be good but a coup in Russia would be great.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2022
    Bowerbird and Dayton3 like this.
  5. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    29,922
    Likes Received:
    14,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Oops... so, you won't give me any idea of why my conjecture about the attrition factor in a war between Russia and NATO is, uh, "****ing dumb"?

    Ah, well, since I have no pressing business that would be taking me to Russia these days, I fear I must remain ignorant in your eyes, if only subjectivity can convey an accurate sense of what may be entailed in a nuclear 'throwdown', between us and the Russians.

    For what it's worth, you can go back through my posts here going back to 2008 and you won't discover that I'm any kind of "Russia hater" AT ALL. In fact, more than a few times I've expressed grudging admiration for Putin himself, and been roundly castigated for it here in the Forum....





    search recall marker
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2022
    Bowerbird likes this.
  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,509
    Likes Received:
    6,752
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You are lying.
     
  7. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2015
    Messages:
    17,453
    Likes Received:
    2,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Goodbye
     
  8. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,509
    Likes Received:
    6,752
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I didn't say you were a "liar". That would be a rules violation.

    But you did lie about me.
     
  9. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2018
    Messages:
    7,695
    Likes Received:
    2,310
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What's the story with your previous avatar?
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  10. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,233
    Likes Received:
    74,518
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Sorry but I have met American teachers and not only were they not aware that Tasmaniais a separate island fromAustralia but they did not know NZ is a different country. Many apologies butAmerica does not exactly have a good reputation when it comes to the world outside its borders
     
    Pollycy, Esau and PARTIZAN1 like this.
  11. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I spent time in high school and college teaching the teachers the difference between the USSR and Russia. During my first time in college ( before my vacation in Vietnam ) a political science professor laughed whenI wrote that the USSR would fall apart by year 2000. Sadly most Americans cannot tell the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia, the Baltics and the Balkans.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2022
    Bowerbird likes this.
  12. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2022
    Messages:
    7,961
    Likes Received:
    3,069
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They'll feed each other lines, not that they'd know what the other was talking about.

    :cheerleader:**********WORD SALAD**********:cheerleader:
     
    Thingamabob likes this.
  13. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2022
    Messages:
    7,961
    Likes Received:
    3,069
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Gotta give the man a round of applause. He just about sums it up, where most everyone else thinks they're an intelligible dynamic duo.
     
    Thingamabob likes this.
  14. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2020
    Messages:
    15,971
    Likes Received:
    7,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    How would your supposed credentials of being a "history teacher from the U.K.," give you any knowledge about what Americans study? You sound like a history teacher, who believes himself to be a doctor: that is, someone who has a natural belief that he just knows everything, even if he hasn't studied it, based on his, self-assessed, mighty intellect.
     
  15. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2021
    Messages:
    6,427
    Likes Received:
    5,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You just described just about everyone on this forum that yaps about Russia but has never set foot there.
     
    Esau and vis like this.
  16. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2021
    Messages:
    6,427
    Likes Received:
    5,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    infrastructure
     
  17. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But that would mean that the majority (I suppose it's the majority) are deliberately lying about something that will cause mass death & destruction ..... which will in a short time affect even themselves. Is that possible?
     
  18. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It is far easier for them to censor & rewrite world events by 10-year increments in reverse chronology. Europe endeavours to chronicle history from its "beginning" forward whereas those you mention spin the present, enter it into the ledger as official that "may not be infringed upon" and let anything earlier than simply hang until they can better concoct a self-serving version of it. Bugger the facts.
    :buggered:
     
    UntilNextTime, Esau and vis like this.
  19. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why is this in response to four posts (by three different forum members), each of which is written in English? You quoted them - you don't recognise them as being written in English? Can it be that the problem lies with your reading comprehension? :bookdiva:
     
    Bill Carson likes this.
  20. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It would be one hell of a hoot, wouldn't it and if it's being recorded (and subsequently leaked) humanity would have an endless string of quotes to cheer up any party right into the next millennium! :laughing:
     
    Esau and UntilNextTime like this.
  21. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    1). It can be safely concluded that a teacher of history from/in/educated in the UK knows a thing or two about history itself. Can we agree on that?

    2). Anyone who’s lived in the US/spent a fair amount of time in the US/has invested a great deal of time on American-dominated discussion forums (no matter what country they come from) might know quite a bit about the educational system in the US. Can we agree on that?

    BONUS QUESTION: Is there any particular reason why an entity of a poorly educated, inarticulate, untravelled population should be expected to know very much about Europe, Russia, Iran, China, Africa, etc.? And yet just thumb through the pages of this (and any other) discussion forum and what do you see? I’ll tell you what you see. Americans talking/ranting about things of which they know nothing but what their MSM propaganda has told them.

    I think we’ve gone full circle now, don’t you think?
     
    Bill Carson, Esau, Eleuthera and 2 others like this.
  22. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2020
    Messages:
    15,971
    Likes Received:
    7,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    That's funny. First of all, I'll agree with your #1, but that doesn't get you anywhere near a defense for Esau. Your #2 is quite iffy. First off, it makes an assumption of possible time living in the U.S., which I have no reason to believe is true (not saying that it may not be, only that I have seen no indication of it). So we will have to limit ourselves to your other option, for #2: "anyone who's... invested a great deal of time on American-dominated discussion forums (no matter what country they come from) might know quite a bit about the educational system in the US." Well, that would include you, too, wouldn't it, Thingamabob? And so you would contend, that you know "quite a bit," about our educational system? Because no, I would not agree with that. But there's the funny part: you tell me how ignorant are Americans, talking/ranting about things "of which they know nothing but what" they've heard in the media. And you say that, while you are using nothing more than what you, or Esau, have absorbed from online chat rooms, to assume that you all, have a commanding knowledge of the American education system! Could you beeeee any more of a hypocrite!
    One might expect, of someone thinking he knows so much, with such a faulty & lacking basis, that you were actually an American, yourself!!

    Can you follow the logic of that, or do I need to go over it again, for you?

    And btw, the most basic fact, which you somehow overlook-- so much for the non American education-- was that Esau's contention, that American history only goes back 10 years, is absolutely wrong! So that kind of says it all-- despite the fact that you could make yourself believe, you'd outlined an airtight argument.


    I'm not saying that the average American history education is not inferior to the European one; though, since I've never been to Europe, I would be relying on what I have heard from our mainstream media. But you called that "propaganda," didn't you? So, maybe I shouldn't believe the good things I've heard, about other countries having far superior schools?
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2022
  23. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,920
    Likes Received:
    11,867
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I see your point, but when it comes to human behavior, there is nothing new under the sun.
     
    Lil Mike likes this.
  24. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    29,922
    Likes Received:
    14,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's it...? One word... "infrastructure"...? You're indicating what? That Russia has more "infrastructure" than the NATO countries, and thus it would be victorious in a war? Is that what you're saying? Help me out here, Bill... after all, I'm not a fugging MIND READER.

    You may feel differently, but I've seen a number of YouTube videos that provide visual evidence that if anyone travels much outside of the relatively few 'major' cities that Russia has, and especially, almost anywhere east of the Ural Mountains, the roads are often impassible because of poor drainage, poor materials used in construction, almost non-existent maintenance.

    You may enjoy: ... and there's LOTS more like this....





    search recall marker
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2022
    Poohbear likes this.
  25. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2021
    Messages:
    6,427
    Likes Received:
    5,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You certainly need help given your response. I'm not taking about some rural roads. The topic was nuclear war on population centers and the US winning that exchange. So the first clue is it's not a dirt road on YouTube in Siberia.

    Why should you need help, you know everything about Russia yet you've never set foot there.
     

Share This Page