Zimbabwe: White Farmers given 90 Days to Give up Their Farms and the World is Silent

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  1. J0NAH

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    no you are wrong. tell me, why would someone who so despises afrikans bother to read their history? truth is you havent read one page of their history which is why your posts are so ill informed.
     
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    nope, the management was black and the techniques the same, use of the wheel was invented by blacks too.
     
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    northwinds Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is the funniest thing I have read lately.........you just make it up as you go don't you?
     
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    dont project please.
     
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    In early Islamic states of the western Sudan, including Ghana (750–1076), Mali (1235–1645), Segou (1712–1861), and Songhai (1275–1591), about a third of the population were enslaved.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...slave_trade.png/700px-African_slave_trade.png

    See that one right in the middle, the slave empire that ENDED in the 8th century. Yeah.
     
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    you are encompassing pretty much all of Central/north afrika there. you are stating that a third of the population was enslaved and you expect me to believe because htownmarin says so??
    besides the fact that you have provided no evidence or primary source you seem to be mistaking serfdom with slavery. in feudal society many pow's were taken as serfs. Afrika did not go to war with europe so it was called slavery when the europeans captured 18 million.
    iunderstand that your education in this area is poor so dont get defensive or contrary and for once in your life, man up and take responsibility instead of always pointing the finger, you will get more respect in life.

    also you seem to have shifted your focus to the arab slave trade hwere as before you stated it was afrikans enslaving afrikans but when asked for evidence you now say it is arabs enslaving afrikans,
     
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    Is Wikipedia not a good enough source? I know I normally don't use it, but from my cell it was the first one that popped up. I'd be happy to provide you with additional sources that reinforce my claim.

    And yes, I am encompassing all of Africa because, I said slaves were bought and sold in Africa long before they ever saw a white man. Central Africa is Africa.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

    The slave trade wasn't even abolished in Ethiopia until 1923.

    Again, if you want a more concrete source, I will hook you up.
    Speaking of education, your grammar is awful.
     
  8. JoeSixpack

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    When black people lost their land to these white people, did anybody care?

    I'm just curious as to how much the USA is supposed to do around the world to make things right?
     
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    isn't that white the keystone pipeline is gonna do, steal peoples land for the pipeline
     
  10. J0NAH

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    Short answer: No. Definitely not for such a sensitive subject. Its like using only a rapists testimony in trial, isnt it?
     
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    my grammar is an expression and emotion about how ifeel. if irespect an opponent itend to use the appropriate grammar, dont worry about mine, im university educated and english literature qualified. dont let my lack of capitals and obscure use of I deter from the matter at hand. my punctuation and spelling should be enogh of a clue that iknow what im doing. also iknow when to use then and than, so dont make me really test you, it could prove embarrassing.
     
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    After purchasing them from some of your other black ancestors

    - - - Updated - - -

    I suggest a ship with holes goes nowhere.
     
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    how do you know they were his ancestors?
    you have DNA samples in your vault?

    Besides, it was a needs must so to speak. To acquire guns from the european [in order to defeat them on the battle field] th3 only commodity the european would trade in exchange for guns was humans.
    So, the sacrifice was made.
     
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    Cancun has the same stuff..but go 5 miles outside that and.......
     
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    and....you will probably find a US army base.
     
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    Why not, the libs here think they have a right to take more money from someone who is wealthy and redistribute it. Wonder how long it'll be before that extends to property....
     
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    Gosh dang Micketto, you shore got me on that one, I thought fer sure you was gonna say "hold a candlelight vigil"....
     
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    Perhaps the meaning was lost on you.

    I've seen you make that claim before...I assume you have a cite to back it up?

    If you wish to discuss this topic and be absolutely specific (and not engage in the rhetoric that is mostly bantered about here), then to be correct the Africans weren't really "selling their own", no one sells their own people. As mentioned, tribes in African countries warred and the losers became slaves, so to be "correct", the tribes were selling off those who they defeated, just as the Romans and Greeks did.
     
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    Nothing racist about that, huh?
     
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    The point being, which you acknowledge in the end, is that yes, these were different ethnic groups at conflict and perhaps their ancestors were in fact different, who knows. Recent studies even suggest it was a confederacy within the ibo (the main ethnic group who compose american) that were responsible, so that clouds the subject even more so.

    The reason iraise the issue of guns for slaves is from the hours upon hours of reading scholarly articles and such and coming to a neutrals conclusion that the only way that the resistance movements could succeed was to acquire guns THROUGH TRADE from the very european they were fighting against. How impossible would you imagine that scenario could be?
     
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    I'm not making any claims as to the possibility, just that you are the only person I have ever heard claim that.

    My original point to superbadbrutha, and as I alluded you missed the meaning, was simply one of a bit of snarky one upsmanship. The difference, of course, being that I do understand the vastly broad brushes being used.

    The whole subject of race in our country as it currently stands is a vicious circle of rhetoric.
     
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    University articles calculated that the supply of slaves multiplied dramatically and in direct proportion to the supply of guns from the european. This equation would corroborate the notion of the "guns-slaves cycle" imentioned earlier.

    Its a tactic used in the Middle East in to this day with Isis acquiring european weapons, traded with the european by Iraqi Arabs, while being in direct confrontation with europeans, there is some correlation here just for a more modern example.
     
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    WHAT UTTER DRIVEL Most trade gifts were based on Beads cloth and spritits. There were no white men going slaving because malaria would kill them off
     
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    Arms traders, either legit, gray/black market or direct government supplied have had a lucrative business for a long time. It wouldn't be surprising to see any given faction receiving arms from the country or countries they are sworn enemies of, directly or indirectly.

    I'll bet the Europeans of the time were probably aware, but didn't care as they felt the various tribes presented no real threat or could still be easily defeated if need be.
     

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