Papa John's: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut

A Band Aid and Unguentine is going to fix an Axe Wound?

 

Really? so you believe that Obama is going to cut spending so much that we will be able to pay down the debt?

 

Why would you think I said that? That is completely different from what you said. Strawman much? Why yes, you do.

 

Sure.

Clinton got us from a record deficit to a balanced budget and never actually cut spending once.

 

Don't make me laugh, mike. The Alinskyite-in-Chief who promised to cut the deficit in half by this year just got through adding $260 billion/year in government spending when he rammed ObamaCare down America's throat...

 

I said cut spending to bring the down the debt. I brought it up. do you have a problem comprehending?

 

Clinton also had the trillions of tax revenue from the computerization of America in the 1990's. Does Obama? He would if he'd go with energy from shale oil and gas, but I fear he's just to ignorant for that.

 

Its easy to raise taxes when you have record breaking revenue growth already.

 

Folks were predicting a $1.9 trillion deficit and three years later its down to $1.1 trillion. So we are most the way there. It's not impossible at all it could be down another $150 billion next year, which would be the fourth year.

 

You think? The Dems got pounded for that bit of bravery.

But we didn't ahve record breaking revenue growth at the time.

 

Whatever, corporate revenues were skyrocketing.

 

Just looking at the strong economic growth after Clinton's tax increase (that conservatives told us would wreck the economy and kill jobs) and you still aren't close a surplus budget.

Shale oil and gas production are skyrocketing, and US petroleum production is increasing for the first time in decades.

 

No, you said: "Obama will not agree to cuts."

Do you have a problem with short term memory loss?

 

So tell me when will Obama agree to cuts that will be able to pay down the debt?

 

Yes, Papa Johns does use fresh ingredients but they also charge a lot more for their pizzas. My favorite pizza is a pepperoni pizza so I compared prices. A large Papa Johns pepperoni pizza delivered is $12.49 and an extra-large Dominos pepperoni pizza delivered is $9.99. Pappa Johns is charging $2.50 more for a smaller pepperoni.

The delivery costs aren't necessarily more to the stores for fresh v frozen ingredients but that depends on how often the deliveries are required. Pappa Johns probably has deliveries two to three times a week but I don't know what Domino's requires.

Fresh ingredients actually cost less because they don't have the "processing" costs that canned or frozen ingredients have. Of course both make their own pizza dough at the stores and things like pepperoni, ham and cheese are the same at both stores. Dominos probably uses canned pineapple where Pappa Johns doesn't and there would be other ingredients that would be "fresh" as opposed to canned or frozen.

All-in-all don't see much of a difference and, as noted, Pappa Johns charges considerably more than Dominos at least for the pizza I'd order.

 

I would assume that this reflects a vote for Gary Johnson as he was the only candidate that wanted a balanced budget so we could begin to pay down the national debt. Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden both proposed unending deficit spending.

 

Romney called for a Balanced Budget Amendment and Gary Johnson's Quixotic campaign doesn't even merit mention.

If the country wants to get down the deficit it has to deal with the hand it is dealt. Right now the only solution is to force Obama to radically cut his spending (not going to happen) or refuse to continue raising the debt ceiling at a rate that accommodates Obama's $1T/year deficits. The latter is the only viable option...

 

BWAAAAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! The tax cuts that Clinton was forced to accept by the GOP-controlled Congress in 1997 were what produced strong economic growth:

All Obama has done for the past year is yap about hiking taxes and 1) the economy has remained stagnant and 2) the markets tanked 5% after he got re-elected. Things will only get worse if he delivers on his threats...

 

After Clinton did his flip flop on taxes to get re-elected, GDP growth went up a full percent to 4.2% a year. Unemployment dropped from 5.4% to 4.0%. Read the article, it's a history that won't be allowed to be rewritten.

 

Do you really not understand the additional back end costs any regulation creates. They have to pay people and buy resources to ensure they are compliant, modify their books to account for these new fees, pay for the fees......

Yu dont just write a check and that it. These companies essentially have to rework all of their financials to accomodate these new regulations.

Here is a novel thought for you <<<mod edit/flame bait>>> leftists. If you want healthcare as a benefit then get a job that offers it. Oops that would require working someplace that might require you to be respinsible and intelligent so i guess that wont work out for you...

 

I've read every "Balanced Budget Amendment" ever proposed and they are so full of loopholes that they wouldn't balance anything, ever! What we had from Romney/Ryan was the Ryan budget proposal that would have never balanced the US budget according to the CBO. It would have come close in 2040, assuming all of the outragous assumptions it was based upon (e.g. GDP growth of over 4% for the next 28 years that was a pipe dream) and the 2013 budget was virtually the same as the Obama 2013 budget proposal generating roughly another $1 trillion in deficits.

Johnson actually proposed the cuts in spending required to balance the budget such as withdrawing the US military from the over 150 foreign military bases around the world (include Afghanistan) that would allow a substantial reduction in military spending without compromising the ability of the US military to defend the United States. Romney/Ryan wanted to increase US military spending which is being paid for with deficit spending. Remember that roughly $320 billion of DOD spending is currently being funded by borrowing (deficit spending).

To eliminate the deficits we need to address both spending and revenue. I have proposed and will continue to propose that we should close the largest single loophole in our tax codes that overwhelming benefits the wealthy. We need to eliminate the special tax rates for "unearned income" that is treated as Capital Gains and treat all income identically under our tax codes. Income is income and a there should be no preferential treatment for the multi-millioniare where their income is taxed at less than 1/2 of the tax rate that a working American can be subjected to. Eliminating the Capital Gains Tax loophole would generate over $1 trillion per year in additional revenue because the wealthy would be taxed at the same rate as everyone else.

As I've also noted repeatedly it is a Republican myth that the wealthy create jobs because overwhelmingly they don't. 80% of all jobs are provided for by small business and the wealthy doing invest in small business. For the most part they don't even invest in large business because overwhelmingly their investments are not in IPO's that actually capitalize an enterprise. They merely swap ownership in large corporations with each other and that provides zero funding to the enterprise and doesn't create any jobs.

End the Capital Gains Tax Loophole for the wealthy to increase federal revenue by aboutn $1 trillion/yr (and that treats all Americans equally), cut the existing tax rates by 5%, remove the cap on the Social Security portion of FICA/Payroll taxes, cut US military spending so it's only three times as much as any other nation (a 25% cut or $200 billion/yr), and reduce other discretionary spending by the same $200 billion that the DOD budget is reduced and we would have a surplus budget plus additional funding for Social Security/Medicare that is needed.

We know how to balance the budget, address revenue shortfalls for Social Security/Medicare, eliminate a huge tax loophole for the wealthy that allows them to pay lower tax rates than working Americans, and generate a surplus to pay down the national debt but Romney/Ryan and even the Republicans in Congress don't want to do that. They want to deficit spend just as much as the Democrats. There was no difference between Obama/Biden and Romney/Ryan on deficit spending as both promised deficit spending forever.

People apparently don't have a clue because they don't read the actual proposals by candidates on the issues.

 

The Federal Reserve crime syndicate will go on providing hundreds of billions of worthless, new dollars in various kinds of continuous "stimulus" to keep the Obama Welfare Circus propped-up. As long as Chairman Bernanke can keep on inflating this gigantic fraud-balloon, there will be the illusion of "recovery". It is a TRAP!

I predict that at some pre-determined point, the international banking cartels will pull support for this Keynesian idiocy and every free-market economy in the world will free-fall into insolvency and destruction. Today, we must face reality: there is NOTHING that can be done to save the United States from Obamanite socialists and those "insiders" who pull the strings on the puppets in government and other "useful idiots". Prepare now! Get ready now! Be able to survive entirely on your own for at least six months! Life will be horrible under these internationalist autocrats because they will seize absolute power, but at least you will be alive if you prepare now!

For four long, horrible years the "enemy" was at the gates. Now the enemy has broken through and will ravage everything in its path. WE ARE ****ED!

 

A rather ignorant statement about regulation of enterprise. I am opposed to unnecessary regulations but overwhemlingly most regulations are necessary, few involve any fees and if they do they are general state fees and not federal fees, and most regulations are at the state level and not the federal level. Perhaps the most imposing regulations are related to worker safety under OSHA regulations that are primarily adminstered by the States and not the Federal government. Additionally most of these regulations are based upon the adopted practices of enterprise because worker safety is important financially for the enterprise. We can also address federal regulations such as clean air standards because no enterprise has a right to poison our land, water or air. We allow it to a limited degree because of economic considerations but the enterprise doesn't have "Right to Pollute" and to do so is a special consideration for the economy. Additonally we have regulations that don't go far enough in protecting the People from incurring financial losses based upon irreponsible business practices. These are all pragmatic regulations to PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

Yes, there are some regulations that go too far but this is a small percentage of all regulations and we actually have more cases where the regulations don't go far enough. We should, for example, approve a nuclear powerplant design that can be used anywhere in the United States based upon the advanced state of the art nuclear powerplant technonogy. Each nuclear powerplant should not be subjected to the same review of the same design over and over again because this is a redundant non-value-added cost. At the sametime we should force all existing coal fired powerplants to implement "clean coal" technology within a reasonable amount of time. While burning coal is never clean we could reduce coal fired powerplant emissions by 40% without fundamentally raising the cost of the electrical power being produced. Basically we're polluting for the sake of polluting when it is unnecessary based upon current technology.

 

The US government and Federal Reserve do not follow Keynesian economic philosophy and, to my knowledge, never have. We can also point out that both Republicans and Democrats are responsible for the corruption of our monetary system. Both Republicans and Democrats support inflation based upon fiat promissory notes being issued by the Federal Reserve that cannot be redeemed on demand in "lawful money" (i.e. American Eagle coins) being produced by the US Mint in compliance with the Title 12 statutory requirements not do either Republicans or Democrats require the States to pay their debts in gold and silver coins as required by the US Constitution.

 

However this thread is about Obamacare. Obamacare which was pushed by Obama, passed by democrats, and the only bipartisanship having to do with Obamacare, was the vote against it.

please stay on topic.