Food of the United States is a sheer and utter disgrace

Cars have a "sticker" too, so you can see what it is you're buying. Maybe we should get rid of the stickers and just take the word of the seller what kind of car it is and what its options are, as well as price.

 

What kind of store were you in? You can't expect some Walmart employee to even know the difference, nor can you expect a discount shop like that to have options. Try an actual seafood store.

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How much detail does the sticker go into? Does it tell where the car was made? Does it tell whether or not it was a union shop? Does it tell where the parts came from? You get more detail on the packaging of any food items you buy than you'll find on a car's sticker.

 

Fair enough on the Walmart employee statement. So...farm raised versus regular shrimp ins what the corporate profiteers want to stock, and people are too stupid to know the difference anyway so, stick with the high profit stuff. I got it.

According to some though Sir, we don't need a sticker on anything. Is this what you advocate? In fact, why label ANYTHING then? Certainly food needn't be labeled as to its content. Why bother at all?

 

You have absolutely no idea what you are blathering about.

 

Local place was advertising wild-caught shrimp last week. Trader Joes and Whole Foods sell them.

 

Or just a better supermarket. Stop & Shop and Shaw's/Star have "natural" food sections in this area.

Yes. (Brampton, Ontario for my Magnum.)

No and sort of. It tells the source of the engine and transmission (on the Mag, Mexico & Germany, respectively, though I think mine was the last year for the German-made transmission) and the percent of US/Canadian parts content (IIRC, about 70%).

Sometimes.

 

And yet you believe that we shouldn't be allowed to know if the food we're eating is GMO or not.

 

LAST FEW WORDS BEFORE THIS THREAD GETS LOCKED:

Thank you everybody for your debate on this important issue.

It is the defining issue of our time.

On one side... In one future, we will not know what we're eating. We will be TOLD what we can eat, without any freedom on our part. The food will be MORE OF THE SAME. A countless plethora of horrific practices from growth hormones to sickly additives.

Our food will continue to decline. Fake bread. Fake cheese. Fake milk. Fake fruit jellies. Sickly animals and plants.

This is YOUR fight. This is YOUR cause. If we lose on THIS battlefield, all of the freedom and prosperity and luxuries won't mean for anything. There will be more lethargy. More disease. More social disparity. More exploitation. More depravity.

Our children deserve real food. As a father, I trusted the magical red and white clown as an affirmation of food approved for childrens' eating. It was cheap, easily accessible, and for a time they liked it.

However it was ultimately determined that Billy has adverse reactions to this type of food. Doctors and social workers questioned the merit of eating the food. They said it was "not approved for repeated eating", and the food was a "novelty item" and "comfort food".

Billy's eyes grew apart. It was only after a regimine of purely natural food that Billy's eyes grew together again, but it was revealed he was only looking at people from 1 direction in which the eyes happened to be pointing straight. Overall however, Billy felt better. He learned to catch a ball by looking at it with 1 eye, a challenge impossible for even the best quarterbacks. He learned how to do well in school to make up for his many other food-caused challenges. And he learned, most important of all, well... He taught me, to not trust the US society to care for anybody, I mean... The politicians' key slogan is to not care for the people or to pay them back with their own tax money. Billy taught me... That the United States is a "poisonous landscape"... That if you step in the wrong spot, or you live in the wrong spot... Or if you trust in the wrong people, or if you eat the wrong food... That you will suffer, endlessly. In Billy's case, for the rest of his life. Destined to wake up each morning not seeing straight, and to live each day trying to convince people and other kids that he has a super power because he can see sideways.

THE UNITED STATES HAS FAILED US. THE UNITED STATES HAS FAILED BILLY.

Now you can lay blame anywhere you want, perhaps on his father, but we have heard story, after story, after story from the common people about how the US system hurts life, hurts family, hurts people around the world. And the US system hurt Billy.

 

Well...for those with "Walmart only" food districts, I guess they'll just have to suffer through with the farm raised version and the GMO'd corn huh?

When "local" businesses have to compete with corporate giants with endless pocketbooks, those businesses don't stand much of a chance, now do they?

 

Point to EXACTLY where I said that. Link to the post.

When you can't, retract the LIE.

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You're not too smart, are you. Wal-Mart was the BEST thing to happen to the local business strip! It was collapsing ten years ago. It's now booming due to the traffic from Wal-Mart.

 

Sorry. I retract the lie.

So... You do support labeling of GMO products as "GMO"?

 

When I visit family in Germany, I notice that males in general have less hair loss than in the US. That was my observation at least. Could have something to do with the food.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure I care. I don't see labeling them as such at all unreasonable.

 

Really? The ones around me put others OUT of business. I guess the best way to get folks to believe bad is good is to tell everybody that bad IS good. In other words, the opposite of what it actually is.

 

When I was younger we grew out vegies, hunted our meat and raise and milked our own cows. When I grew up and started my own family we also grew our vegies and bought our meat from the rancher and I guarantee you it was NOT malnourished, diseased, or shot up with drugs. Knew the rancher, he lived up the road 3 miles from me and I knew his livestock and how they were taken care of and fed. We made our own bread. I really don't know what your talking about looking back. My wife just pointed out and wanted me to add that we made our own juices, jellies, and syrups from our own trees and we had strawberry and raspberry fields on either side of us and were allowed to pick after the major harvest was through.

 

ok friend listen carefully.

The US Government wants to allow US Corporations to cost undercut the natural food market. This will cause market upset causing natural producers to have excess cost and force them to pay for Corporations' depraved products in order to compete. Some natural producers will stay around, selling to more expensive higher quality tastes. There will be fewer of them, the costs will go up.

This is one of the biggest crimes perpetrated against a human population by any government in history of man. And it will lead to further corporatization of the American landscape and more slavery and servitude for the American people.

You should turn your don't care either way into a do care, into a do something about it, and many more people must, or we are all doomed to the future the US Government is building. One of food depravity, human suffering, exploitation, and corporate slavery.

 

gmo food, who cares, people are all worked up about nothing throwing around the term like its evil,

why not talk specifics.

I will go out of my way to eat Genetically Modified Food, I like the idea that its free of disease, bacteria, and tiny little insects.

 

Unfortunately, it's not free of those things. Nature adapts and new stranger insects will inhabit it.

You mean the RoundUpReady products... There are, of course, also hormone producing products like the salmon. That animal is no more safe, although it is farm raised. There could be new diseases just from being farmed, but you're right, it's not in the wild so maybe there a fewer parasites.

Many of the problems I have shown are economic, damage to small businessmen, damage to the natural food growers, and damage to people who simply just want to know what they're eating. The US Government wants to unlabeled the GMO food and force Americans to eat it without knowing it was GMO'd.

 

Salmon farms are the most regulated farms out there, as far as everything I read, there are no hormones used.

I am not worried about genetically modified food, not in the least.

We have been eating foods that are modified for decades.

 

Most of the shrimp today come from Asia and is mostly farm-raised.

At Ngoc Sinh Seafoods Trading & Processing Export Enterprise, a seafood exporter on Vietnam’s southern coast, workers stand on a dirty floor sorting shrimp one hot September day. There’s trash on the floor, and flies crawl over baskets of processed shrimp stacked in an unchilled room in Ca Mau.

Elsewhere in Ca Mau, Nguyen Van Hoang packs shrimp headed for the U.S. in dirty plastic tubs. He covers them in ice made with tap water that the Vietnamese Health Ministry says should be boiled before drinking because of the risk of contamination with bacteria. Vietnam ships 100 million pounds of shrimp a year to the U.S. That’s almost 8 percent of the shrimp Americans eat.

“The manure the Chinese use to feed fish is frequently contaminated with microbes like salmonella,” says Doyle, who has studied foodborne diseases in China.

Hey man...it's ORGANIC!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-on-pig-feces-approved-for-u-s-consumers.html

If you're going to eat shrimp, buy American.

 

They ARE using hormones in Salmon farms. The FDA has just approved a genetic modification, the first in an animal. The modification causes the salmon to produce excessive growth hormones by using the growth hormone regulator gene from a fungus eating "pout fish".

The result is meat with growth hormone in it, just like the controversial US cows who were injected growth hormones which are now banned because the meat proved detrimental to human consumption. It's HERE WE GO AGAIN. The US Corporatists will stop at nothing in favour of profit, even if it means decreased freedom for the people to know what they're eating, even if it's against the will of the people, and even if it sickens them WHICH IT ALREADY HAS: Look at the conditions of Americans to get your proof that the US FDA is an EVIL AND CORRUPT institution.

Don't defend them! Let the American people petition their government for grievences! There is no incentive for the politicians, corporatists, and financial pigs to change, so long as the US police suppress and dismantle the sacred founding-father approved US social movement. They are the REAL people! Why would the founding fathers use the word "people". OF COURSE government is comprised of people. They meant REAL people! Not clubs, groups, aristocracies, royalties, or corporate entities!

 

Odd that from 1900 to 1999 the life expectancy in the USA increased by more than 30 years. Was that due to our horrible sub-standard health care system? Or our food?

 

Why not just inject yourself with carcinogens directly? It's way more efficient. Slug down a shot or two of Roundup daily too! Why F around???

 

Sounds yummy!!!! MMMMMMM!!!

I'll bet the fat cat pay better than 3 cents a pound for them too!!! (Gee....if only they could find a cheaper way to produce them...make them bigger...I know..I know!!! GMO them!!! Make them as big as bears! Think of the profit!!!)

 

They're working hard to reverse that trend...I assure you. Too many people and no enough carcinogens yet but, they're working on it.