Food of the United States is a sheer and utter disgrace

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  1. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah here we have another brainiac on the stupid trail. If you LEGALIZE it there will be no profit in selling it illegally. Kind of a new concept to those who must be led, I know, but try to follow along.
    If you allow people to sell whatever they want to, the consumer will get educated about who to trust or die. Funny concept for a liberal genius to grasp isn't it? Evolution in action. But you have to espouse your total love for those who must be protected. You have the EPA and the FDA, but you also have the Abortion Cabal.
    Protect the weak but not the unborn.
    That way you can have more weak, born to protect.
     
  2. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should really try the double bacon thick burger at Hardees/Carls. It's a demon waiting to be purged.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hell no! You need to realise that somebody selling greased turds on the side of the road can't make a profit if nobody stops to buy one.
     
  4. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These two places (colorized for your convenience) are where even the most stupid of observers will realise that the propaganda train jumped the tracks back in Mumbai.
    Rumsfeld?

    Back it up or shut up.
     
  5. kotcher

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    Whoever started this thread based the premise on ignorance.

    I have not been to a lot of places but of the place I have been, the USA by far has the best selection of food in the best supermarkets.

    Processed foods are great, I eat em every day, love em. Nothing like Velvetta cheese, a can of Spam, French's Mustard, and a loaf of Wonderbread.

    The whole world would be a better place with American supermarkets. They won't allow it though, local governments are too greedy, they allow a rich local guy from the country control the supermarket, or its owned and ran by the state. Resulting in a very limited supply of food as well as choice.

    Here in Brazil we had no bread on the shelves after the New Year. Zero, went to three markets close to where I live in Rio, nothing. Pretty scary to think that there is no bread even for a few days.

    A pretty ignorant thread or just trolling from the liberal left, they just can not say enough bad things about the USA.
     
  6. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You blew your argument away in the first sentence. Expenditures do not equal premiums. Not even close. everything after that sentence is just smoke and mirrors. You need to be retrained as a propagandist.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What department of government do you work for? Your profit is increasing with every law passed. Your gravy train is getting up some steam. You love it and you can't hide your enthusiasm.
     
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    Apparently some one is unaware that almost all the cost of administering Medicaid and medicare is born not by the federal government but by the states. That's one of those things we call an unfunded federal mandate.

    There are so many nonsequitors in there it's redicuolous.

    1stOf course the government is better at controlling costs. If they say take it or leave it you take it because the alternative is that you get nothing. If the insurance company tries that their customer and the hospital sue them and almost certainly win.

    Second since someone has to pick up under payments from medicare that cost is tranfered to private insurance carriers, which for the braindead among you means that not only are you paying for other people's medicare and medicaid coverage through your payroll tax but also you're picking up part of the unfunded cost of the program through your inusrance premiums.

    And that's only two of several problems with that report.
     
  9. Dan40

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    All U S population, health care costs, $8,012.82. per person

    48 million on Medicare cost $11,083. each.

    Non-Medicare health care costs per person, $7,454.55

    So Medicare's costs per person are 49% higher than the private sector.

    And Medicare's ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS????????

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)#Administration

    "Since the beginning of the Medicare program, CMS has contracted with private companies to operate as intermediaries between the government and medical providers.[13] These contractors are commonly already in the insurance or health care area. Contracted processes include claims and payment processing, call center services, clinician enrollment, and fraud investigation."

    The simple reason why they have lower administrative costs,,,,,,,,,,,the private sector does the administration for them and always has. So Medicare's admin costs are ONLY what they pay the insurance companies to handle the claims and paperwork. And since the insurance companies are doing exactly that, all day every day, for their own insureds, the cost is low. If the CMS actually did the work the cost would more than triple.

    Argue all you want. Look at the US budget for Medicare [one of the highest line items] and divide it by the number of people on Medicare and you get over $11,000 per person. And that was 2010. Now its higher.

    obamacare @ $11,000 per person=$3.5 TRILLION per year. We'd be LUCKY to get off that cheap.
    At $12,000 per person, which is closer to today's cost and will be exceeded shortly, obamacare will cost $3,840,000,000,000.00 per year and rising.

    Hide your head in the mud but that is the assured history of govt programs.


    The President's 2013 budget proposal [not passed]

    HHS (Medicare & Medicaid)

    $940,900,000,000.00

    SSA

    $882,700,000,000.00

    DoD

    $672,900,000,000.00

    Next highest expense, INTEREST.

    $246,000,000,000.00

    Those FOUR items account for $2.743 trillion of the $3.803 trillion budget request.

    72% of the total.

    To think for one second that HHS costs will go down is certified insanity.
     
  10. Dan40

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    Blogs are sources of bullcrap. No one intelligent pays any attention to anything on a blog. And private insurers ARE heavily regulated in every state, contrary to the lies in your blog. Their premiums ARE regulated. Their policy wording IS regulated. Their investments ARE regulated. Their profits ARE regulated. Their processing of claims IS regulated. Most are publicly traded and thus regulated by the SEC. So it is difficult for your lying blog to be more wrong.

    All facts, check with ANY state government.
     
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    Yeah! What you said!

    Me? Nothing processed, pasta maker, flour/grain mill, filtered well water, coffee, tea (Hot and Iced) and the soft drinks are getting the boot.

    No processed or frozen fast food (frozen dinner) meats.
     
  12. Marshal

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    One naturally raised half-chicken gives more nutritional satisfaction than an entire bucket of KFC deep fried mutant hormone chicken parts.

    After eating just a few pieces of KFC mutant hormone chicken parts, you feel bloated and lethargic for 3 days in comparison to the rich energetic nutritionally satisfied feeling of eating the natural food.

    The sad thing is, Americans do not really have access to natural food. Their economy is so undercut by megalithic exploitative corporations, that even the most natural of sellers still provide the horrendous deplorable foods, even in a so-called "health food" form, and in many cases these "health foods" are provided by the same exploitative corporations.

    The word "natural food" does not even exist in the American lexicon. The food is either grossly unhealthy, or grossly healthy. There is no in-between, which is only possible with standards, such as Bread No.5. (Клеб Ну,5).

    Well guess what? The SU actually copied the concept of food standards from the US because before 1972 the USDA and FDA operated on the standards model, it was an American invention, however after 1972 the director of the USDA (I forget his name) changed the entire country to a model of exploitative corporate abuse.
     
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    ... And the paid government propaganda continues.
     
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    Should be - FOOD IN the United States - not - Food OF the United States -.
    There is no such thing as Food Of in that context.
    There may be Food of a certain culture or Country.
    Like the Foods of Brazil.Not the Food of Brazil.There is no one Food of Brazil.
     
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    The USA by far has the best food in the World, its a shame people foolishly label it otherwise.

    Best thing that could ever happen to the world is if Americans controlled all the Supermarkets.
     
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    KFC chicken is not a hormone fed chicken... it grows quickly because of the breed of chicken not because it is fed hormones. It is a Cornish cross chicken and gets to size in about eight weeks. That is because it is basically force fed the entire time. But they do put some nasty stuff in the food and it is probably worse than the hormones. My uncle had a chicken farm and he said they put corn, soybean meal and a little arsenic in the mix. A Cornish cross broiler raised at home would be ready to eat in about nine weeks.

    As far as Americans not having acsess to natural food you are mistaken. We have access to a very wide variety of foods from all over the world.

    Tonight I am eating chicken from our own yard. We eat vegetables from the garden, pigs from our pen, and cows from our pasture.
     
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    Another rocket scientist trying to compare the cost of old people dieing, to young healthy people!

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    So KFC chickens aren't pumped full of hormones and anti-biotics, as they aren't meant to be raised on processed corn feed that causes numerous health issues in the chickens?
     
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    The health issues are from the arsenic in the feed according to my uncle. Hormones would be a waste of money because they grow quickly anyway. And they are fed antibiotics (which i am against) because of the crowded conditions.

    I would just like to see some honesty in the posts. For example: just because a cow or or other animal has an ear tag does not mean
    it is a hormone tag. As of January ALL pigs and cows in my State has to have ear tags for ID. All except animals brought to slaughter. This is to track them in case of foot and mouth or some other disease.

    Ear tags can also be used for fly problems...kinda like a flea collar on a cat.

    Corn is a good feed for chickens...it gives the eggs a dark yellow yolk and real good flavor. I have never had health problems with my chickens (except mean roosters killing competition).
     
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    Whos thar.You just nailed it.Feed.Like in Corn feed.Monsanto is a known
    manipulator/Poisoner of things they produce.Like their seed.
    That is why I refuse to eat corn.Or even Doritos.Because our corn supply
    { corn syrup } has been corrupted by leading GMO Corn manipulators of
    seed and herbicides like Monsanto.
     
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    What would be the cost difference for you to feed your chickens traditional seed feed, as compared to the processed corn feed?
     
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    Coincidentally Britain has a food crisis right now. Horse and pig DNA has been found in our cheaper range beefburgers. That would be bad enough, but it was the Irish FDA who found it, not ours, because ours has been cut back so far they don't do those tests (sorry, didn't they do now) Which leaves the question, how long has it been in there?
     
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    I see you still hold high command getting my posts deleted while keeping your own. Good job! AGAIN! Man, that time sheet will have all kinds of entries tomorrow huh?

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    Can you guys sue for that, or make anybody go to jail?
     
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    I believe there should be a constitutional ammendment declaring that natural food is essential for a healthy populace and that a series of food ratings and standards must exist combined with proper labeling so that Americans know the quality, how their food was produced, and what is in it.

    In my view, a constitutional ammendment is required, because food condition of the United States poses an existential threat. The pattern of food depravity is deteorating the nation more than any other aspect. It is certainly more rampant a problem than say alcohol or drugs, because bad food is largely unregulated and the USDA and FDA are highly corrupt.
     
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    I'm sure Michael Bloomberg agrees with you.
     
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    I usually grow my own corn for the chickens and most of it has been sweet corn we don't eat and what we get from produce stands. We take the produce they can not sell and we haul it away for free. It works well for all of us. Our chicken feed is usually anything the pigs won't eat along with whatever they forage on their own.

    I buy little food for my chickens or pigs. But right now during winter i am having to buy some allstock feed for both my chickens and pigs.

    If you are talking about bird seed it is much more expensive than chicken feed. It is about three times as much unless you grow your own and honestly it takes too much room from other things like field peas and squash for the animals.

    What makes animal feed so cheap is because it is usually stuff left over from human food processes. Soybean meal from soy oil manufacture, wheat middlins from flour manufacture and usuaally they throw in a little corn and molasses to make it palatable to the animals.

    I know of no livestaock that can survive on corn alone other than a cow or a goat. If you feed pigs strictly GM corn they will slowly starve because of a lack of protien. GM corn is much lower in protien than they old red dent corn.

    I feed my chickens cracked corn right out of the bags when they are laying...it makes the eggs taste good and gives the yolks good flavor.
     
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