Permissive Sex Ed Linked to Higher Pregnancy, Abortion Rates.

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  1. yguy

    yguy Well-Known Member

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    Actually there is nothing human about promiscuity.

    And boredom must of course be avoided at all costs, since just beyond it lurks a truth unbearable to egomaniacs.
     
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    Why aren't they teaching about the effectiveness of IUDs?
     
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    I would agree with you, but even people claiming morals can't always tell the difference between moral behavior and amoral behavior.

    An anecdotal analogy is our federal Congress who can't distinguish between the specifically enumerated common defense and general welfare, and the non-enumerated common offense and general warfare.
     
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    ROFLMAO! You've GOT to be kidding!!!
     
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    Do you know why the head of the penis is shaped the way it is? It's so that it will remove other men's sperm from inside the vagina, increasing the chances of that person impregnating the woman. Humans are not monogamous by nature, it's an artificial construct that we've been led to believe is the way things are supposed to be.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    When this goes beyond an accusation and becomes an actual federal case then it might be worth something, until that time its is at best an unfounded accuation and at worst a bold faced lie .. You quote is full of the usual ambiguous language like "give rise to a reasonable inference " ie no real facts, its just we think that is the case and "The problem may run deeper", but we don't know so we'll just say it anyway.
    Do PP publish public accounts every year, are those accounts scrutinized by government bodies, have those accounts ever been proven to be false in a court of law since it started receiving federal funding in 1970 .. the answer of course is no.
     
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    So you would like to devolve human society. How far back would you go? Maybe to a time where the strongest male got to rape as many women as he could. OK...Maybe not that far back...How about back to where the leader of the clan got first stab and all the young girls in his tribe? Ahh yes, back to those halcyon times were men ruled over women.
     
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    You are joking of course, because if you are not then you need to do some proper research beyond the bible.
     
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    Our temporal and secular morals and legal ethics were Ordained and Established over two hundred years ago; what isn't covered by our federal Constitution and Bill of Rights?
     
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    I prefer the way my krew does it. Everyone is a consenting adult looking to have fun and share love. Works really well.
     
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    You are 100% wrong, no child is taught how to have any form of sex, they are taught about sex . .there is a difference . .to be taught how to have something would involve a practical demonstration, or at least a visual aid ie a video, Children may be taught about the mechanics of oral sex, but no way are the taught how to do it.

    As to your assertion that that teenage pregnancies have "shot up" .. the truth says something quite different, since 2000 the number of teen pregnancies producing a live birth has fallen, and before you jump onto the band wagon of saying thats because there are more abortions, again the facts show different .. this from a pro-life site Christian Life Resources and covering two different records collection; http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042

    The number of abortions since 2000 has remained stable of even fallen in most years.
     
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    From 2011 to 2012 PP published that is spent 67% on 'medical services' while receiving 45% from 'Government health services grants.

    http://issuu.com/actionfund/docs/ppfa_ar_2012_121812_vf#embed

    From the link...

    While Planned Parenthood affiliates performed a record number of abortions in 2011, the organization made only 2,300 adoption referrals and provided fewer than 30,000 prenatal services. Roughly 40 percent of the organization’s reported contraceptive services last year were the provision of more than 1.4 million emergency contraception kits, which many believe can cause an abortion in early pregnancy.

    While PP claims that the abortion segment of its business is only 3%, they down-play it by defining it as 'services' so accounting for it can be avoided. For instance, a pregnancy test is called 'services' which gives it equal weight compared to a much more expensive and time consuming abortion.

    one in 10 of PP clients receives an abortion. This is not – this 3% figure

    It is actually a little bit closer to the 10% that Marjorie Dannenfesler suggested, because there are about 3 million patients who come in. There are about 300,000 abortions provided.

    http://www.jillstanek.com/2011/03/n...hoods-3-of-all-services-are-for-abortion-lie/
     
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    I suggest you re-read the post I was replying to and re-read my reply. Your post is irrelevant to both.
     
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    And again this is just opinion, when, if ever, have PP been convicted of misuse of federal funds in relation to abortion .. please post evidence to this, not just more hyperbole and accusations.

    Interesting on your second link the following is also stated;

    So saying that the 10% is more correct than the 3% doesn't take into account the woma who have more than one services, including an abortion
     
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    I guess you 'share' raising children as well?
     
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    I posted facts. PP is lying by omission and obfuscation. That's what H.R. 217 is about.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr217
     
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    no you are posting an opinion by a pro-life person, and a bill introduced by a pro-life person .. you think that is unbiased?
    The bill you have linked to has been referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and no doubt like the numerous before it, it will fail.
     
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    I posted many links, one of which had PP's own pie-chart of expenses and revenue. That is called data not opinion. So far you have provided 0 support for your POV. Data shows that approximately 10% of the women seeking PP's 'services' had abortions...not 3%. The 3% figure reflects only those that came to PP seeking an abortion.
     
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    H.R. 217 was about defunding Planned Parenthood. “This legislation would limit women’s access to the wide range of preventive health care services that Planned Parenthood health centers provide, including cancer screenings, breast exams and birth control.”
    http://www.legalspeaks.com/2013/01/gop-assault-on-women-continues-in-2013/
     
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    Abortions represent 3 percent of total services provided by Planned Parenthood, and roughly 10 percent of its clients received an abortion.
    http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/

    What are you disputing?
     
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    That article tells the same old PP lie that PP only provides 3% of its 'services' toward abortions. They hide all the other abortions performed on women who originally sought PP for other 'health services.' It's a scam...

    BTW...Now we are told that ALL our health services will be provided 'free' with the advent of Obamacare so, why do we even need a PP?
     
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    I am, of course, serious as a heart attack.

    I'd have to be a real moron to care, so thanks for nothing.

    You could spend a million lifetimes researching and still be just as disgracefully devoid of understanding of human nature as you are now.
     
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    You can't be that dense can you?
     
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    Meaning, you are unable to explain what you are attempting to dispute?
     
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    Please...I provided facts and links that prove that PP does not include all abortions in their 3% figure. All you have done is regurgitate liberal talking points.
     

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