Permissive Sex Ed Linked to Higher Pregnancy, Abortion Rates.

I'll not name any names, but there are some that rival the density of dark matter here. Where light is powerless to escape or penetrate.

 

Stop being sexually promiscuous outside of a committed(preferably married) relationship. Solved. Or stop having sex when you aren't prepared to raise a child. Solved. There you go, you have two solutions. Both of which are cost effective and are not a burden on the taxpayers.

Quit sending me the bill for it, and I won't gripe about it other than on a moral ground. Killing children is still a way uncool thing to do.

Any relevant comment?

 

translated means - I still don't know, but I'll just keep repeating the same thing .. someone will believe me

Not your mum, and probably to late now

Translated as - I still don't have any, but if I don't say anything I look bad.

 

Oh, but I do...and you bloody well know it. That's why you keep trying to irritate me with puerile imbecilities.

 

Being sexually promiscuous within a committed or married relationship is an oxymoron. You may as well stop wasting your breath suggesting that people wait until marriage to have sex. As far back as the 1940's, 95% of people had sex before marriage. Besides, married women also have abortions.

Not realistic.

Nobody is billing you for abortions. And stop complaining about funding PP IF your problem is taxes. Every $1 spent on family planning saves $4 in government spending.

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=secrets-of-the-phallus

You don't know the females I do.

 

Ha! Well typos do happen. "Stop having promiscuous sex, wait until a committed relationship(preferably marriage)." There, better? And really, your somehow innate knowledge of everybody's sexual habits is kind of weird...do you have a crystal ball? Calibrate it recently?

Quite realistic, it works when there isn't a heap of government agencies there to brace you from your fall. There is no penalty for stupidity, so people do not learn.

I could buy a candy bar with that dollar, and prevent a child from dying. This is a poor argument to present to me. Not only are you stealing from me, but you're using that money to kill another - the source of my wrath.

4 bucks for junk that shouldn't be spend anyways in most cases. Not an impressive way to win me over Gramps.

In case you forgot, the IRS is a collection agency. If I don't pay my bill, men with guns take my stuff and put me in jail.

 

You haven't proven a single thing to be fact .. try again.

 

Well of course I haven't. After all, only a fool tries to prove a self-evident truth, and only an idiot would require such a proof.

 

My knowledge is the result of many years arguing with people like you on message boards. I learned not to take anyone's posting for the truth, so I look up stuff myself.

Look, people are going to have sex whether they have birth control handy or not. That has been the case in all of human history, and remains so to this day.

If you fund family planning, you prevent abortions. For every $1 that you fund family planning, you save $4 in spending for babies and children. So stop whining about that dollar, the candy bar isn't good for you anyway, and the way to prevent children from dying is to fund family planning adequately.

So birth control is JUNK?

Since you obviously don't like paying taxes, and nobody does, fund family planning to a greater degree and taxes could go down.

 

Only an arrogant person believes something is sefl-evident and doesn't require proof, and only people who are not deluded by their own grandeur would require proof.

If you have no proof, you have nothing worth saying that is worth listening to .. bye bye.

 

Strangely enough I do the same.

People choose to not have sex all the time, for the very reason of birth control not being handy. This foreign concept is called responsibility/higher thinking/common sense... You get the idea. I myself have resigned from many encounters on this premise alone. This argument implies the fallacy that people cannot or do not learn.

Family planning also performs abortions courtesy of planned parenthood. And why should I have to pay for another's child anyways? Isn't that their responsibility? Now if I nailed the guy's wife I could see it, but I'm only nailing mine. The cost should be on them entirely.

Besides, protein bars are good for building muscles. Who are you to tell me what is good for for my body? A dietician?

No. The people that require me to pay for their birth control because they refuse to use personal discipline are junk. Junk of the worst sort.

Paying for the lesser of two evils is still paying for evil. Why pay for evil again?

 

Prove it.

Aww, but it was just getting interesting.

 

You're right, sometimes people do refrain. Other times, they don't.

We're not going to let children starve in this country. We ARE going to provide for children when their parents can't or won't, even its just the basics. If you want FEWER children that the state provides for, fund family planning adequately. The fact that abortions happen in the same building as family planning is immaterial. It's just short-sighted to refuse to fund family planning.

Eat whatever you want, Have a soda with that candy bar.

Neither birth control nor helping needy children is evil. Subsidizing birth control is more cost effective.

 

Nah, you aint worth the effort

 

Immaterial...I love that word. Is the building a giant hologram having image but no substance? Jokes aside, I would almost agree it is short sighted. It is short sighted to do it suddenly. We would need to slowly phase ourselves out of it - like quitting smoking for instance. Few people can do such things cold turkey, many must be weened with a patch or other gimmick to help them. I would love to see the Planned Parenthood be cluster bombed and left a smoking ruin, but this is unlikely to happen. I could see reducing funding to slowly choke it to death. And it would be the only type of medical rationing I would be cool with. People would figure out that they either need to be more careful, or more responsible. I'm okay with either.

Agreed. Nobody disputes this, at least I don't dispute it.

Big problem on my end here. Why should I have to pay for Retard Timmy's condom to have retarded butt sex with a retarded liberal feminist Lily? Let alone for Liberal Lily's abortion?

This is my beef - I am paying for another's irresponsibility.

 

Your irrational hatred of Planned Parenthood is noted. Even though they prevent more abortions than they perform, you want them leveled.

You're NOT paying for anybody's abortion, unless you make a voluntary contribution to PP for that purpose or pay for your girlfriend's choice. Unwanted pregnancies are not always a result of irresponsibility. Half of all women choosing abortion had been using birth control.

 

Leveled, immolated, and then shot into the sun. You may as well highlight that note you made. I suppose this is cause to call it irrational.

Simple questions. Do I pay taxes? How is planned parenthood funded?

 

Planned Parenthood is funded from several sources. While they do receive government funding, NONE of that money can be spent for abortions. The money is kept separate and carefully accounted for, and they are regularly audited by government accountants.

 

Government is funded by taxes - yours and mine. So why must I fund contraception for another? Is there a compelling reason why they shouldn't just keep their chemistry sets away from each other?

 

Thank you, the prosecution rests.

 

Apparently, there is a compelling reason because throughout history, even during periods when unwed pregnancy was shameful, unplanned pregnancies abound. It is cheaper for all of us to make affordable birth control available, and by affordable, I mean whatever the patient can afford, if it is free, so be it. It is also better for society to have children born into and reared in a two parent home. While that is not always possible, it is preferable. You can preach abstinence until the moon turns to green cheese, and it just ain't gonna happen.

 

Tell you what, I'd happily pay to sterilize a few morons. If they want to have kids later, then they get to pay for the reversal. But I shouldn't be billed for their consumptions regarding other contraception. This solves the continual cost of both abortion and contraception. Or if someone goes in for an abortion it should be mandatory to be sterilized afterwards. If you can track the man down, take the zippity out of his doodah as well.

I mean if they are going to spend MY money for another, I want it spent wisely. No more of this catch and release nonsense, it adds up. Plus they take themselves out of the gene pool and clean it up a bit. As it stands it is a little too murky.

 

After you pay your taxes, it is no longer YOUR money. Frankly, you just sound resentful that somebody out there is getting some and apparently you're not.

 

I get it now, you believe in the all powerful state. This clears things up quite a bit.

Do yourself a favor and don't take up divination, tarot card reading, or other such foolery. I think you'd best stick with your day job.