Zimmerman is not a white man he is a brown man

Right, because if someone was chasing my teenager around at night, I'd just assume they were neighborhood watch rather than assuming my kid was in trouble...

 

you guys like to say "chase" and "stalk" and "target" instead of simply watch where he was going.

 

Of course, he "watched" while following a teenager around at night... which ANYONE would find creepy.

 

he is supposed to watch teenagers around the neighborhood. He is the neighborhood watch guy.

 

http://www.floridatoday.com/article...lated-rules-neighborhood-watch?nclick_check=1

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/26/see-neighorhood-watch-presentation-give-zimmerman

Enough said.

 

You did not say anything.

 

The links provided said plenty.

 

When someone does not even take the time to explain their own thoughts I certainly do not look at links. Most people won't.

 

Yeah, god forbid that well referenced facts get in the way of dogma...

 

He was a neighborhood watch guy watching the neighborhood. Do you think neighborhood watch volunteers need to stop watching people in the neighborhood?

 

Wendy Dorival, who coordinated neighborhood watch programs for the Sanford, Florida, Police Department in 2012, testified that George Zimmerman was specifically told not to pursue suspicious people in the gated community where he lived.

Dorival said she worked closely with Zimmerman, because he helped organize the program for his neighborhood. She told him a neighborhood watch volunteer should act as the "eyes and ears" of the police -- but not like a vigilante.

"If you see a car driving around in circles, and you don't recognize the car in your community, that might be suspicious," said Dorival. "If people are walking around in areas that not typically walked on, that could be suspicious."

Dorival gave all the neighborhood watch volunteers from Zimmerman's neighborhood a presentation explaining their role in helping law enforcement. That presentation can be seen at this link (not that you bother opening those):
http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/watchpart1_rotated.pdf


George Zimmerman violated all the basic rules of neighborhood watch volunteering. The most egregious rule he violated is the carrying of a concealed weapon. Neighborhood watch volunteers are repeatedly told that they are not the police and have no authority to act as “sworn personnel.”
Why, then, carry and conceal a weapon while you are volunteering on neighborhood watch?
Another rule violation: Getting involved with a crime, making an arrest, or injecting yourself in the situation. This is according to the National Neighborhood Watch Institute (NNWI).
The NNWI Participants Handbook states, “Always remember that your responsibility is to report crime. Do not take any risks to prevent a crime or try to make an arrest. The responsibility for apprehending criminals belongs to the police/sheriff.”
Neighborhood Watch participants act as additional “eyes and ears” for law enforcement. They do not take the law into their own hands.
On the 9-1-1 call with police, Zimmerman told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that he was following Martin, and the dispatcher told him “you don’t need to do that.” Zimmerman was told to back off and stop tracking Treyvon Martin.

 

Zimmerman is not a white man.

According to the bible, you are your fathers seed. Zimmerman is a nazi.........I mean, german name

 

Yes you aren't special. You like everyone else in this country is a coward. You can only talk about what if on the Internet. When faced with a real life situation you would chicken out.

Its not Zimmerman's problem its not your problem its our problem.

At the point that young men ages 16-25 became the most violent age group in the country.

 

So you just copied and pasted someone else's words for your entire post?

Are you suggesting that people with a conceal carry license are allowed to carry a concealed weapon but that neighborhood watch volunteers are not allowed to carry a concealed weapon? Zimmerman was not acting like the police he was just trying to act as the eyes and ears of the police department.

 

According to the watchman protocol; "If you see a car driving around in circles, and you don't recognize the car in your community, that might be suspicious," said Dorival. "If people are walking around in areas that not typically walked on, that could be suspicious."

Trayvon was a suspicious character and Zimmerman went and beyond the call of duty to confront the suspect and he was right the suspect attacked him as he approached him.

Was Trayvon really headed home? Trayvon could have attacked somebody else it was a good thing Zimmerman was there to stop what ever crime Trayvon might commit.

 

What made Trayvon a suspicious character?
Was it the fact that he was walking on paved areas that ARE "typically walked on"?
Was it the fact that he was talking on a phone as he walked?
Was it the fact that he didn't stare at this shoes as he walked, but "looked around" (from the sidewalk) as normal people do?
Was it the fact that he was black?

Why not look at it from Trayvon's perspective?
He was walking home from the store and talking on the phone when a stranger started watching him. Trayvon ignored the stranger and kept going.
The stranger started following him in his truck. Trayvon ignored him, and chose a paved walkway that a truck couldn't follow him down.
The stranger got out of his truck and started following him on foot. At this point, any normal person would have reason to be nervous. Trayvon chose to run and hide.
The stranger kept searching for him, and was getting closer. Trayvon chose to confront the stranger and ask him what his problem was.
The stranger didn't identify himself or provide any reason for his actions... At this point, Trayvon has no reason to believe the stranger is anything other than a threat. He chose to engage the threat, which is perfectly legal self defense.

If Trayvon had been a white girl, and Zimmerman a black man, would you still be claiming "she" was responsible for her own death?

 

I presented the links, and you indicated you were unwilling to take the effort to click a link... Are you now indicating that no evidence whatsoever should be presented in any form if it happens to disagree with your views?

I'm pointing out that it's one thing for people to act as "eyes and ears"... They should not be acting as the "trigger finger" as well.

Right ( ), even though he had been told by the police department to back off and the NNWI Participants Handbook states, “...Do not take any risks to prevent a crime or try to make an arrest. The responsibility for apprehending criminals belongs to the police/sheriff.”

 

He was not told by the police to "back off". He did not try to "make an arrest". What are you talking about?

 

Now you're making sweeping statements indicating that everyone in the country is to afraid to speak to each other?!
I see people pick up hitchhikers, speak to strangers, even hold the door open for each other...! It's sad that small acts of decency are so rare in your life that you believe that the entire nation has become too cowardly to interact with each other....

Is there a timeframe when they weren't?!

You seem to claiming that "everyone in this country is a coward" who is afraid to talk to any male between 16 and 25.... That is an amazing claim that only serves to illustrate how projection can be harmful.

 

Actually, he informed the police that he was following the "suspect" (though suspected of what is still unanswered), and was told that they didn't need him to do that...
What do you believe he was trying to accomplish by following ANYONE around at night, then refusing to identify himself or give any explanation when asked what his problem was?

BTW, he certainly did take a risk by following an unknown person that he believed might be a criminal... Also against the rules...

 

As Zimmerman said, he was looking to see where the stranger was headed so he could pass that info on to the police. That would be what neighborhood watch volunteers do. They look for suspicious activity from unrecognized individuals and report it to the police.

 

And as has also been said, they distinctly told him that they did not need him to do that...
And when he was asked what his problem was, he could have said he was with neighborhood watch, which he didn't.

 

So what? He did not do anything illegal by watching where he was going.

 

If you were being followed around at night by a stranger, and that stranger didn't tell you who he was or why he was following you when confronted, you would have every right to assume that he was a threat.

According to self defence legislation, you have a right to defend yourself against a perceived threat.

Trayvon didn't do anything illegal, and he didn't create the situation.

 

Oops...
Forgot to mention that Zimmerman was also on prescription drugs that have well documented side effects of anxiety, aggressiveness, hostility and delusions...

http://www.examiner.com/article/the...rman-was-taking-when-he-killed-trayvon-martin