Shellie Zimmerman ~ *Doubtful of his Innocence*

Nobody told Martin to stalk Zimmerman, ambush him, blindside him with a punch -- breaking his nose and dropping him to the sidewalk in shock -- and then proceed to try and murder Zimmerman by pounding the man's head against concrete. As a matter of fact someone actually suggested that he leave the "Creepy-ass Cracker" alone . . . but apparently the man-sized teenager figured that he could have some fun victimizing someone, and went for it.

 

Yeah, Martin stalked Zimmerman...!

 

Yep, Martin Doubled back after using his cell phone to call his girlfriend and then he snuck around using bushes as cover while Zimmerman talked to the dispatcher. Then he surprised Zimmerman, demanded to know who he was, and then Martin sucker punched Zimmerman, dropping him to the sidewalk in shock and so forth and so on. Didn't you follow the actual -- you know -- trial?

 

You mean those 30 inch high bushes?

 

Well the claim by Martin defenders is that the fellow was a weak and weeeee-tiny tyke, and so he should have been able to hide behind bushes a yard high at night while his distracted prey [you know, the Creepy-ass Cracker] was talking to a dispatcher.

 

The bushes are NOT a yard high.. and George was no longer on the phone with dispatch.

 

Did Trayvon have a bone disorder where he could not crouch? You can sit and argue all day, the FACT is he was capable of it and he went back to attack Zimmerman. BTW, its over, its time to move on from such nonsense that means nothing. You did not know Trayvon, obviously.

 

Does anyone here know of a forum where I can debate politics with a mature adults, or where rules against personal attacks are enforced? This is getting tiresome.

 

He was? Where was that? Cite your source.

What rules did Zimmerman not follow? Ive read the entire Sanford PDs watch program pamphlets a number of times and watched the Sanford PDs watch liaisons testimony. Again, what rule did Zimmerman break? Even so, Zimmerman has no legal obligation to follow any such rules in the least. They are a template and the citizens have a right to deviate from that template if they wish.

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Respecfully,

 

Actually not, an analogy needs to be far removed from the subject as not to get tangled in it. Your issue is that you focus on the bricks of the analogy and not what is built with them.

I suppose your response to my brick analogy will be something like this;

"Ugh....what do bricks have to do with Zimmerman? The buildings at Twin Lakes were built with bricks but had fiberboard siding too you idiot"



Welcome to my world.

Respectfully,

 

He was trained by the Seminole County Sheriff's office..

George broke all the protocols and created a huge liability for the HOA which had endorsed him.. If only the HOA had called their lawyers, it wouldn't have happened.

 

Margot, seriously, the HOA woman who trained him was on the stand praising him on every level. Please stop with these lies, ok?

 

The HOA doesn't do NW training.. Its done by the Seminole Sheriff's office and they issue the training manual.

 

The woman, who trained him, was on the stand praising him on all levels, remember that woman you warned us that was going to destroy him? Please watch the testimony so you stop reporting these untruths.

 

What I offered wasn't a narrative. I was simply stating the ONLY facts the defense and prosecution both accept. You're asking me to consider the defense's evidence as fact. It appears as though you've accepted Zimmerman's account of the incident unconditionally. Was there ever a time during this whole mess that you ever once had doubts about Zimmerman's innocence?

 

You altered my claim. I didn't suggest that George Zimmerman watch out over you. I said that you needed "A George Zimmerman". In other words you needed a concerned volunteer that was zealous in their duties. And that volunteerism may have included watching for signs of child molestation and its manifestations.
We could avoid much confusion here if you address what I write.

Respectfully,

 

Are YOU a NW volunteer????????????????

 

Well, I see that civility and Elvis have left the building. Maybe it would be best served if we didn't discuss this further.

Respectfully,

 

Zimmerman did not suspect Martin of being a child rapist. Nor was there any such recent reported activity.

The police were on their way, and they would have prevented any burglaries.

Neighborhood Watch people are supposed to observe from a safe distance. Zimmerman didn't know where Martin was, and you have to know where the suspect is in order to determine what is, or is not, a "safe distance"

Letting the police, who were on their way, aprehend any burglars is a perfectly reasonable way to protect your neighbors.

Not when you've shot an unarmed man during the course of your action. At that point the police should conduct a thorough investigation, and if the DA presses charges, you should be tried.

Respectfully as well

 

"Established"? How is that? There is no testimony or evidence that demonstrated that SYG was applicable in any way. Self defense possibly, but not SYG.

What does SYG have to with Martin or Zimmerman? Do you know what SYG is?

Respectfully,

 

Apparently he did! Martin first followed Zimmerman for some 400' from Taaffes home to the club house. Later, Martin hid in the dark in wait for Zimmerman and walked toward him with an intent to assault. That meets the definition of stalking.

 

And the cops, told George, they thought Trayvon heard him talking on the phone outside. So the thug knew the cops were called, and decided to attack anyways. He is exactly where he is supposed to be.

 

A standard 80" exterior sliding glass door has a door latch that is always 40" from the top of the top of the slab(+/- 1"). The latches are always in the center because these doors are reversible as to left or right. Look at the photos of the bushes relative to the door latch. Dont forget that the ground by the bushes is some 6" below the door frame which sits on the slab itself. It appears that the bushes vary in height from 36"-40" by looking at the photos of the bushes.

 

Actually they were a yard high. You have no proof of their height at the time of the incident other than photos taken by the PD. Reference those photos with a rational as to their height, its your claim.
Nonetheless, it isn't Zimmerman's claim that Martin was in the bushes but that it was his impression at the time that Martin emerged from an unknown place from behoind him and he offered that the bushes may have been where Martin came from. The bushes could have been 16" and it would still be irrelevant.

Respectfully,

 

George broke all of the protocols? That is a lot of protocols. I see that you didn't cite the source of those protocols and what they were. And they are not protocols, they are written suggestions for someone that isn't under anyone authority or employ. Nonetheless, Zimmerman communicated with the Sanford PD and was given the Watch materials specific to their watch program. Zimmerman passed out fliers to all the homes and possessed them himself. Tell me again which of those protocols that he didn't follow? Its your claim, not mine.
And lastly, Zimmerman wasn't legally required to follow general suggestions by an entity who has no authority whatsoever over any watch program or a citizens right to move towards a person that they deem suspicious.
Lets sum this up, you allude to protocols that you don't ever provide a source for. You don't demonstrate which of those 'protocols' Zimmerman didn't follow and lastly you don't recognize that those 'protocols' have no authority to forfeit a citizens right to move towards a person they deem suspicious.


Respectfully,