Shellie Zimmerman ~ *Doubtful of his Innocence*

LOL, no Margot, I don't live in Florida. But I did read the Watch programs informational packets.

 

It was an analogy. I'm befuddled as to how this wasn't obvious.

Not really, Ive been around the PD for decades, sometimes they take 45 minutes to show up for non emergencies.

It is suggested that watch persons observe from a safe distance. Zimmerman could do what he wanted without explanation in regards to how he defined "safe distance". He defines this, not you.

I fully agree. And to observe where suspicious persons went is also a perfectly reasonable way to protect your neighbors. You offer a false dichotomy. It is not 'either or'. It is a reasonable spectrum of actions.

The DA didn't press charges. Well, at least not until Obama stepped in and the the special prosecuter hit man Angela Corey decided to throw away the grand jury process(or something like that).


Respectfully,

 

What a crock. Take a look at the attached links.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m7oXiRBSNI4/UEirMijg_kI/AAAAAAAAEvA/3_Dv5ekwI9c/s640/images.jpg
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rw/20...onal-Enterprise/Graphics/Trayvon_Martin-w.jpg
It's fairly clear that Martin was just making his way home, the fact that Zimmerman was between Martin and his destination does not mean Martin was following Zimmerman.
If anything, Zimmerman has made it very clear that he followed Martin.
When Martin took a right on the cut through, to proceed towards his destination; Zimmerman kept going straight (because he didn't see where Martin had gone).
The fact that he didn't look toward his right as he was stalking a teenager at night, doesn't mean Martin was laying in ambush - especially since (ACCORDING TO ZIMMERMAN) Martin actually approached him to find out what his problem was.

 

This latest batch of responses is way off par from what you've produced previously, and inferior to what I've come to expect from you.

Therefore, I respectfully decline to indulge a failing desire to answer them.

 

Sources have been provided repeatedly.

Google Seminole Sheriff's office Neighborhood Watch Program.

 

Absolutely delusional comment!
You really haven't followed this case, have you? Have you even watched the reenactment where Zimmerman explained where he first saw Martin and how he drove slowly to the community center, parked his car, and continued to observe the kid as he made his way toward his home?

You are so full of BS. . .It actually offends me to see how much non-sense and lies your comments are filled with, when they are posted under the picture of our savior! Sick!

 

Yes, because thats a respectful smart thing for someone to do. Go back and confront someone in a neighborhood that is not yours. Trayvon could have walked inside, and been alive for a few more months probably, but he chose to go back and try to be a badass. Thats just how it is.

 

According to testimony, we know that Martin was in front of his father's house while talking to his girlfriend on a cell phone. We know on the other hand where Zimmerman was because that became the crime scene. Martin had to go all that way back to confront Zimmerman, and after doing so Martin assaulted Zimmerman.

 

No we don't know that at all..

 

Yeah, because all teenage boys are known for doing the "smart thing"...
Besides, he was legally allowed to be there - which means that SYG says he had no obligation to run from a perceived threat.

 

Oh of course. Pardon me for being imprecise in that statement. So let's try it this way instead . . . well among the people who actually followed the trial testimony we know that . . . .

 

Once again, SYG means he had no obligation to back down and run home from someone he believed was harassing him.
If you felt unjustly harassed by someone, would you tuck your tail between your legs and run home - or would you want to know what their problem was?

BTW, Martin only stuck Zimmerman (according to Zimmerman's recreation) AFTER he asked what the problem was and Zimmerman chose not to identify himself as NW or explain why he was following teenagers around at night.

 

How many feet or yards is "right by"?

 

Florida's SYG law frowns on people leaving the safety and security of their front lawn and then marching up [or sneaking up -- the jury is still out on that issue] to start a physical confrontation. As for the other aspect, the law also frowns on punching a fellow who does not answer a question; and definitely has a problem with you following your assaulted victim to the ground at that point, straddling him, and pounding his head against concrete.

 

It was the length of between one and a half and two townhouse units. From various maps it looks like about 150 yards. It was Martin's girlfriend who insisted that Martin had made it back to his father's yard segment. If you think she is a liar, then that's your call.

 

Listen, if you condone some kid on his third suspension looking for a fight in a neighborhood that was not his, thats cool. I am not going to degrade him and pretend he was dumb and could not read and could not understand neighborhood watch was in place. Trayvon ended up how all violent thugs do, its really not that shocking.

 

Really? http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2013/09/florida_man_kills_neighbors_du.php

The statute clearly states that force can be used against an imminent threat. Someone following a teenager around at night, and failing to identify themselves or justify their perceived stalking when asked what their problem is, can easily be seen as an imminent threat.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ute&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.013.html

As for the allegations regarding the level of force in the "assault", you're relying solely on the testimony of the only person with a motive to exaggerate.
The fact that he didn't have a broken nose or concussion (or require any significant medical treatment), and his only injuries were a bloody nose and two lacerations that were equal in severity to shaving cuts, speak to this.

 

According to the evidence, he actually tried to get away from Zimmerman while being followed. Your characterization of him as a "violent thug" who was roaming the neighborhood looking for a fight is intellectually dishonest at best.

Only in America can a kid be put on trial for his own murder.

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Sounds like you're cherry-picking what parts of her testimony to believe. Stay classy.

 

Nope, he actually had 4 minutes all to himself to run home, documented via the 911 call, lol. Thank god the jury was not emotionally invested in that thug.

 

As previously stated, SYG dictates he didn't have to run home with his tail between his legs if he felt threatened.

 

Au contraire my friend, you don't get to redefine "follow" in the middle of the game. To follow simply means to move towards independent of intent. Remember, you and the Martinites burden Zimmerman's definition of following based on intent and not on literal movement. You are simply duplicitous in this regard.

We are in agreement. For a portion of the event Zimmerman attempted to maintain a persistent observation of Martins location which necessitated moving to another location since he didn't have the ability to see through buildings ala Superman.

There are no proofs or evidence that Martin ever attempted or succeeded in "proceeding to any destination". Because that would require an intent to get to a destination. How much of a head start and how many minutes is required for Martin to run from the T to his house? What exactly do you think impeded Martin from going home? A force field? Or Zimmerman, who you just admitted "kept going straight". Exactly what scenario is it in which Martin cannot get home and winds up getting into a fight where he did? His destination was Zimmerman's face.

Stalking? My goodness, put this icon on your favorites toolbar; Dictionary.com .
If Martin wasn't waiting in ambush where do you suggest he was or what he was doing for all that time? I would really like to hear a plausible scenario.

Respectfully,

 

His nose was broken and photographs indicate that the lacerations were severe enough to put him in reasonable of continuing serious bodily harm . . . which is why the jury ruled in his favor.

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You can state that Led Zeppelin sounds like Beethoven . . . but that does not make you correct; merely out of your depth.

 

The jury did not agree that they were minor and as for Zimmerman not going to the hospital he was in a state of shock at that point and wasn't thinking clearly. So it goes.

 

There were two tiny, shallow lacerations.. And yes I know about head wounds... I have raised a lot of children.

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LOLOL.. The Paramedics didn't diagnose shock.