Part 8 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

I have sink it in my brain and soul that humans did not evolved from apes or Great Ape, the Great Ape is a creation of man there is no facts that can proof the existence of a Great Ape if you can provide a solid fact that a Great Ape did existed and was the source of both human and ape evolution I will kowtow to you 100x. I know you will not be able to produce any solid proof no known scientist have solid proof of the existence of this Great Ape just like they have failed to proof the existence of the Lockness Monster or the Abominable Snowman.

Those are APES! and you are correct they are APES not HUMANS and HUMANS are not them either!

What?? I just said that humans are not apes. Are you getting confuse?

I have admitted the truth have you do you really think that a Great Ape existed like the Abominable Snowman??? And that is the bottom line there is not Great Ape just like there is no Lockness Monster or Sasquatch!

 

As one of the RULES ON POLITICAL FORUM....if a member...in this case...YOU MITT RYAN....is challenged to provide PROOF OF YOUR POSTED STATEMENTS....by another member....ME AboveAlpha.....you are REQUIRED BY THE FORUMS MODERATORS TO PROVIDE SUCH PROOF IN THE FORM OF A VIABLE LINK TO A SITE BACKING YOUR CLAIMS.

Attention Moderators....I challenge by this forums own rules...MITT RYAN....to provide proof of his OBVIOUSLY ERRONEOUS STATEMENTS ON POST #590 of this topic....and the specific statements I am asking Mitt to prove are...and I quote...."Fact: Humans are not animals....Fact: Humans are not apes."....end quote Mitt Ryan

I know as well as I am sure the VAST MAJORITY OF MEMBERS also know that these to FACTS that Mitt Ryan has posted are in FACT NOT FACTS AT ALL!!!!

I have already provided in depth and detailed PROOF that HUMANS are in fact APES....along with Gorillas, Bonobos, Orangutans and Chimps....in the Ape classification of HOMINIDAE. LINK...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

As well....HUMANS ARE ANIMALS....LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

Now Mods....although I know you have a great deal to do and to police this forum is a real pain in the ass....I would like to politely ask some of you if you could please take the time to take a look at this issue as it is an issue that concerns a great number of us members that enjoy POSTING FACTS and who are honorable enough to ADMIT WHEN WE ARE WRONG.....and those of us who would RATHER KNOW THE FACTS THEN REMAIN IGNORANT OF THEM.

I along with others believe that for far too long and to a far too great extent that some members have been allowed to get away with posting FALSE STATEMENTS based upon their ideologies and beliefs and when confronted by PROVEN FACTS....they still continue to ignore those facts and ignore the challenges presented to them to prove their statements by the members who challenge them with the real facts.

I think RIGHT NOW AND THIS INSTANCE is a perfect time, place and issue where those of us who want the ability to enjoy good honest debate and conjecture and analysis without the constant barrage by those who are driven to post falsehoods and lies even when asked to provide proof or even if they are confronted by facts.....to be able TO ASK YOU THE MODERATORS TO TAKE A STAND AGAINST DISRUPTIVE POSTERS WHO PURPOSELY REFUSE TO POST PROOFS AND REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE RULES REQUIRING THEM TO PROVIDE PROOF WHEN CHALLENGED.

I and others would consider it a personal favor as well as an act OF GREAT HONOR if the Moderators could please make certain the Mitt Ryan either provides PROOF in the form of a VIABLE SCIENTIFIC BASED LINK to a SITE that will provide proof to the veracity of his statements quoted here.

If no proof can be found or established....then I would ask you to ask Mitt Ryan to either remove or revise his posted statements or at least ADMIT HE WAS WRONG.

If I can be proven wrong I will do the same and post an apology as I feel there is no greater Forum Sin than to PURPOSELY POST A FALSE STATEMENT OR LIE.....especially if you know it to be false and even a greater Forum Sin if you purposely lie about something being a fact.

PLEASE.

Truly and Hopefully yours and waiting,

AboveAlpha

 

Quote Posted by Akhlut on pg. 63 #625 of Part 3

No, that's wrong. All apes had a single ancestor and that population bifurcated, leading to the great apes and the gibbons. The great ape lineage bifurcated again, leading to orangutans and the group of gorillas, chimps, and humans. The lineage bifurcated again, with gorillas' ancestors going one way and the chimp/human ancestor another. Then, about 7 million years ago, humans split off from the chimp lineage.
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Look at you, one would think you might just be omniscient...lol

Telling us what bifurcated some 7 million years ago when there was no one at the time to record any history of it, I'd say that you are just theorizing, speculating, and guessing...am I not right?

I'll give you an example of something that is historical, it is not based on theories, speculations, or any guesswork whatsoever because like I mentioned it is historical for there were people there at the time to record it.

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ's birth, His life, His teachings through His ministry, His miracles, His death and resurrection were all recorded in the New Testament of the Holy Bible twenty centuries ago.

 

There is NOTHING more Historically Correct or Proven than looking at DNA and GENETIC HISTORY.

We can take a drop of your blood or skin cell...etc....and completely map your Genome and determine what part of the world your ancestors came from...if your from European Ancestry then what percentage of your GENOME is specific to your Neanderthal Heritage....and your Genetic Code will show us the HISTORY of how you EVOLVED and your connection to ancient Primates. Mammals, Reptiles, Fish, Plants and Single Celled Organisms.

So what you are making fun of is actually making fun of you.

AboveAlpha

 

Quote Posted by Akhlut on pg. 63 #625 of Part 3

If you'll notice the actual tree, you'll see that humans, chimps, and gorillas are all more closely related to each other than to any other primates.
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Sorry but I just can't see how we are closely related to those apes. The only relation we have to them as well as to other creatures is that we are all living beings created by our Creator Almighty God.

But to try to say we evolved from these ape like creatures is just taking a blind leap into the world of non-sense.

Our Creator, Almighty God said, "Let the earth produce every sort of animal, each producing offspring of the same kind---livestock, small animals that scurry along the ground, and wild animals." Gen. 1:24 NLT

Then He goes on to say, "Let us make human beings in our image, to be like ourselves. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground." Gen. 1:26 NLT

 

Can you answer why what we read in 1Kings corresponds to what we read in the Gospels????



1) Both Elijah and Christ raised the dead:

1 Kings 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

John 12:1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where .Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

2) Both Elijah, who never dies, and Christ were immortal:
2 Kings 2:1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

3) Both Elijah and Christ. ascended into Heaven before witnesses:

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talkd, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. .
12..And Elisha saw it,.

Luke 24:51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven

4) Both Elijah and Christ troubled Israel:

1 Kings 18:17 And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel?

Matthew 2:3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born..

5) Both Elijah and Christ were threatened by the authorities with death:

1 Kings 19:14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of I.srael have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and .I. .even I only .am .left..; and they seek my life, to take it away

John 11:53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death

6) Both Elijah and Christ.... were hunted by the Jewish authorities:
1 Kings 19:14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away

John 7:25 Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?

7) Both Elijah and Christ.... hid in a cave/tomb:

1 Kings 19:9 And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the LORD came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah?

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth...

Both Elijah and Christ pondered in the wilderness 40 days and forty nights:....

1 Kings 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God

Matthew 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

9) Both Elijah and Christ. walked on across the water
2 Kings 2:8 And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped it together, and smote the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, so that they two went over on dry ground

Matthew 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea

10) Both Elijah and Christ let a person follow them across the water:

2 Kings 2:14.. And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over

Matthew 14:29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water to go to Jesus.

11) Both Elijah and Christ.... wrote only one thing, a letter, to people on Earth AFTER they had ascended:

2 Chronicles 21:12 And there came a writing to him from ..Elijah.. the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah,

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

12) Both Elijah and Christ appointed a successor, Elisha, by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ:

2 Kings 2:9.. And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And ..Elisha.. said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me

Matthew 16:18.. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this .rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

13) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor the power to raise the dead:

2 Kings 8:5.. And it came to pass, as he was telling the king how he had restored a dead body to life, that, behold, the woman, whose son he had restored to life, cried to the king for her house and for her land. And Gehazi said, My lord, O king, this is the woman, and this is her son, whom ..Elisha.. restored to life.
Acts 9:40 But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and ..prayed..; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up

14) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor the power to heal:

2 Kings 5:10.. And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk

15) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other:
1 Kings 19:19.. So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.

Matthew 16:19.. And I will give unto thee the keys.of the kingdom.. of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

16) Both Elijah and Christ. asked that the this "cup" be taken from them:

1Kings 19:4 .But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die (because he was afraid of what was coming from Jezebel: [1Kings 19:3]), and said, "It is enough (they seek my life, to take it away: [1Kings 19:10]); now, O LORD, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers."

Matthew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, (because he began to show grief and distress of mind and was deeply depressed: [Matt 26:37]), let this cup pass from me (It is enough: [1Kings 19:4]): nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

17) Both Elijah and Christ are said to have had miraculous births:

Jewish Encyclopedia:
Three different theories regarding Elijah's origin are presented in the Haggadah: Mention must be made of a statement which, though found only in the later cabalistic literature (Yal?u? Reubeni, Bere(*)(*)(*)(*), 9a, ed. Amsterdam), seems nevertheless to be very old (see Epiphanius, l.c.), and according to which Elijah was an angel in human form, so that he had neither parents nor offspring.
See also Melchizedek.

Matthew1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1 Both Elijah and Christ destroyed pagan worshippers and priests. Elijah destroyed the priests of Baal; Christ, the Pantheon of Rome, 380AD:

IKi 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.

History: Universal Christianity in 380AD:
Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.
They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years (54AD -1054AD)

19) Both Elijah and Christ were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.
2 Kings 2:2.. I will not leave thee. So they went down to Bethel
2 Kings 2:4.. I will not leave thee. So they came to Jericho
2 Kings 2:6.. I will not leave thee. And they two went on

John 21:17.. He saith unto him the third time,... "Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, "Lovest thou me?"

20) Both Elijah and Christ. condemned a Jezebel:

2 Kings 9:36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:

Rev 2:20 ..Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds..

21) Both Elijah and Christ re-dedicated the Israelite people to God by raising up a new altar or temple:

1 Ki 18:30.. And ..Elijah.. said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD that was broken down. And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the LORD came, saying, Israel shall be thy name:

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.

22) Both Elijah and Christ chose one man upon which to build his following:

2 Kings 2:15 And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and ..upon.. this ..rock.. I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

23) Both Elijah and Christ were subject of a three day 'search' for their presence:

2 Kings 2:1 And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send.
They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not.

Luke 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

 

or god.

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exactly

 

Well hey... that notion goes right along with the 2.c. definition of 'fact'. See here: www.thefreedictionary.com/fact definition #2.c.

 

What you are confused about was my statement that saying Human's are Apes is just like saying a Gorilla is a Primate......BOTH ARE TRUE!!!!

Human's are in FACT APES.....PERIOD!!!

The Word APE is specific to a Super Family Hominoidea which describes two specific GROUPS OF PRIMATES....those two groups being....Hominidae and Hylobatidae.....and so you don't get confused the Super Family Hominoidea...ends with the letters EA....and the subgroups of .Hominidae and Hylobatidae...end with the letters AE.

Of these two groups in the APE Family...Hylobatidae consists of four genera and sixteen species of gibbon, including the lar gibbon and the siamang. They are commonly referred to as lesser apes.

The second of these two groups of APES...Hominidae consists of orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos and humans. Alternatively, the hominidae family are collectively described as the great apes.

THUS....Hominidae....known as the GREAT APES...one of two groups of APES of which HUMAN'S ARE APART OF along with orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees and bonobos....not only shows that HUMAN'S ARE NOT ONLY APES BUT ARE IN THE SPECIFIC CATEGORY OF GREAT APES!!!!!

Now.....either admit this is a FACT....or provide a LINK to a VIABLE SITE that proves it is false.

If you cannot do this then KINDLY ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG OR REVISE YOUR POSTS!!!

AboveAlpha

 

It's not even worth it. He spits out gibberish, and his understanding of what you're saying is horrendous.

 

You know,,,what really irks me and a lot of others is that if I or they make a mistake and someone corrects us by providing proof in a LINK to a VIABLE AND REPUTABLE SOURCE....we will all admit we made a mistake....apologize for doing so...AS THIS IS THE ADULT THING TO DO AS WELL AS HONORABLE THING TO DO.......and either remove or revise our posts or admit we were wrong by posting so along with an apology.

And the thing is.....MOST OF US WOULD BE ONLY TOO HAPPY TO DO SO!!!

As I along with many others here would rather find out the facts and be proven wrong than go on spouting false statements in an ignorant fashion!!!

What I really hate to see is someone who is presented the proof and facts and then STILL refuses to admit it and even worse...keeps going on spouting out lies and false statements.

SAD!!!

AboveAlpha

 

What's said is that I think his grasp of the English language is so paltry that he will post websites that say the exact opposite of what he is saying, and then think that it is actually bolstering his argument.

 

I posted on the Mod Suggestion and Problem Forum and asked if it was at all possible for the MODS to enforce the rule that when a person is challenged by another member about a statement that they claim is a FACT....and has nothing to do with Religion or Beliefs as in this case belief in a GOD has no bearing upon what the definitions and groupings and Genus...

ge·nus
ˈjēnəs/Submit
nounBIOLOGY
1.
a principal taxonomic category that ranks above species and below family, and is denoted by a capitalized Latin name, e.g., Leo.

Thus this is an issue of FACTS NOT IDEOLOGY.

I asked the MODS to enforce the rule that when a member is challenged they must provide a link to a source backing their statements that is viable and reputable and if they cannot do this they that member must either revise their posts or remove them or admit to being wrong.

I didn't ask for an apology in this case as I think that might cause him a stroke!!! LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

That's cuz he's got a lot of time to waste.

Er he's wasting his time.

Er he's sparing time to spend money. Oh well. forget it.

 

You do realize just because you don't contradict yourself in your mind does not mean you are posting FACTS.

In reality you are posting false assumptions in FACT lines #3 and #5.

Humans are IN FACT ANIMALS.

Humans are IN FACT APES.

Just because you state that they are not does not make it so.

Now...again....either PROVE your statements to be true by posting a LINK to a viable and reputable source or PLEASE....REMOVE YOUR FALSE STATEMENTS FROM YOUR POSTS.

AboveAlpha

 

Thanks for clarifying you are talking in fork tongues but now I understand you really think and accept humans are Apes and evolved from an imaginary Great Ape like a Werewolf right but unlike the werewolf the chimpanzee who turn into a human did not turn back into a chimpanzee instead only one chimpanzee turn into a human and somehow that one human multiply and morphed into the different human race with acquired human intelligence that no other apes or primates possess.
And I must say it loud to you; HUMANS ARE NOT APES! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GREAT APE JUST LIKE THERE IS NO ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN OR BIG FOOT!

The word Ape was use by early scientist because they do not know what to use or say they were influence by the physical and anatomical similarities of man and ape so they use the word Ape and use a diagram to illustrate that men evolved from an ape or chimpanzee just like a werewolf in fact I think they were influence with too much fiction.

Maybe you should research the back ground how the term Ape or Great Ape was chosen and why they believe that humans and apes evolved from this one single specie called Great Ape. Explain to me please what and who is this Great Ape?

I am not wrong, you have not provide a single proof who or what this Great Ape is or was?
We know what orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos and humans look like we have clear evidence of their existence but WHERE IS THIS GREAT APE??? Now if you can not provide any proof I suggest you either accept my presentation that human are humans and apes are apes and that this Great Ape is nothing but a science fiction together with the lockness monster and the Big Foot and the Yeti.

It is not that complicated the evidence is very clear humans are humans, distinct from apes.

 

Oh you are still there I guess you must be reading too much Werewolf, Abominable Snowman and Big Foot stories that is why you believe in the Great Ape story too.

 

I have provided both links, sources and viable proven data and you continue to ignore this and attempt to keep pretending that what I have provided you with does not provide proof.

I will at this point allow the MODS to make a determination as I have no intention of wasting my time nor do a great number of other members intend to waste their time posting replies to you.

You have been challenged....so either prove yourself right or prove me wrong by providing proof via linked reputable and viable sources or you can stay on this topic and talk to yourself.

AboveAlpha

 

This mean you will have to revised your post that Humans evolved from a Great Ape because we know very well that is only a theory not fact but you present it as fact and true. Again my reasonable truth and facts that humans are not apes in beyond contestation.

Have you provided solid proof, factual proof of the existence of a Great Ape?
Present solid proof of the existence of a Great Ape then I will admit I am wrong but if you can not I expect that you admit there is not such creature (you don't have to admit your are wrong you can always say that scientist are still searching for this Great Ape theory)
Yes, let the moderators decide this is their site to police and regulate accordingly.

Posting facts and truth is no waste of time that is why I post and I reply.

 

Obviously not, since it is being contested by posters on here.

For 'the Great Ape' perhaps you should read this - Hominidae

The Hominidae (/hɒˈmɪnɨdiː/; also known as great apes[notes 1]) form a taxonomic family of primates, including four extant genera:

chimpanzees (Pan) – 2 species
gorillas (Gorilla) – 2 species
humans (Homo) – 1 species
orangutans (Pongo) – 2 species.[1]

Extant - in case you don't know - means living/existing

 

You do know that one outstanding characteristic uniting all fundies is that the make things up, they misrepresent and distort as needed, with never a show of conscience and never ever under any circumstances accept that they are wrong about anything?

And you are dealing with an especially virulent case here.

 

It is complicated. You show how complicated everyday.

Granted for the majority it is not.

 

And you will notice that they all clearly separated accordingly humans were not group with chimpanzees or gorillas, humans are in its own grouping.
chimpanzees (Pan) – 2 species
gorillas (Gorilla) – 2 species
humans (Homo) – 1 species
orangutans (Pongo) – 2 species.[1]

Your insistence that all them evolved from one single ancestor the Great Ape and it is this Great Ape that is in question. No scientist will ever admit definitely that humans evolved from a Great Ape their studies and hypothesis is very clear they stated and reported it is a THEORY until such time that scientist can concretely discover evidence of such Great Ape it will remain a THEORY the problem is that there are people out there who would like to treat this theory as truth and fact.

And another great distortion is that they still use diagrams on human evolution to have started from a chimpanzee that is total disinformation and false advertisement because and you have posted it yourself humans did not evolved from chimpanzees they evolved from a Great Ape.

 

With proper education even with good English will not work education is the key. Modern science has clearly group humans separate from monkeys and apes and have provided a theory that monkeys, apes and humans evolved from one single ancestor the Great Ape, understand it said Great Ape not chimpanzee or gorilla it all said THEORY.
The Hominidae (/hɒˈmɪnɨdiː/; also known as great apes[notes 1]) form a taxonomic family of primates, including four extant genera:

chimpanzees (Pan) – 2 species
gorillas (Gorilla) – 2 species
humans (Homo) – 1 species
orangutans (Pongo) – 2 species.[1]

The greatest distortion is that they still use diagrams on human evolution to have started from a chimpanzee that is total disinformation and false advertisement because and you have posted it yourself humans did not evolved from chimpanzees they evolved from a Great Ape.

It is very ironic that when you ask to provide proof of Jesus Christ I have provided with facts, history and Biblical accounts of Jesus Christ existence. On the other hand when ask to proof the existence of the Great Ape even though scientist were very clear to state that it is only a theory you not only could not provide proof of the existence of the or a Great Ape but insist that it is real, factual and truth base on a theory, how can a theory be real? Just like the werewolf, mummy, abominable snowman, lockness monster and big foot have all been proven to be false the Great Ape is also false and it is base on the IMO Sasquatch and Yeti myth.