9/11 Pentagon Attack - Behind the Smoke Curtain - Barbara Honegger

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  1. Jango

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    Similarly, I'm not going to say there isn't a God, but I do believe two things: 1) organized religions espouse conspiracy theories and 2) if there was conclusive proof of the existence of God then the Vatican would have surely presented it by now.
     
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    They try, like the Shroud of Turin, except they can't stop those pesky carbon daters ;)
     
  3. Jango

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    Like I said, 'conclusive'. Like, "I'd like you all to meet God."
     
  4. Brother Jonathan

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    Like 19 cavemen from the Middle East came to America with box cutters, hijacked 4 airplanes, flew two of them into tall buildings which brought three buildings down in less than 15 seconds each, flew another one into the most protected airspace in the world, and attacked the headquarters of the most expensive and highly sophisticated military in the world. The Headquarters! That's a fairy tale for sure, Mike12. And that is the official 9/11 commission theory conspiracy. I am not buying that lie.
     
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    Like 19 cavemen from the Middle East came to America with box cutters, hijacked 4 airplanes, flew two of them into tall buildings which brought three high rise buildings down in less than 15 seconds each, flew another one into the most protected airspace in the world, and attacked the headquarters of the most expensive and highly sophisticated military in the world. The Headquarters! That is the official 9/11 commission theory conspiracy and the one you are all over the Internet promoting. I am not buying that conspiracy theory. You can believe that nonsense based your faith in authority. I'm not buying it. I need some proof.
     
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    Government promotes conspiracy theories too. They call them 'classified documents'. Lee Harvey Oswald's income tax records are classified documents for crying out loud. National security is cited.
     
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    All were well educated and middle class.



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    they bought them here and frankly that was the easiest part of the plot.

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    this in not fully true. But whatever,

    Yes they did, and guess what, once a man flew a plane and landed on the plaza outside the Kremlin. There are some things that while we think we are defended against seem so insane there really isn't a response to in real time. I bet that it will be planned for in the future.

    actually it is facts.
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    If you have evidence of a conspiracy....please show it.

    Your opening line shows that truth and you are not in the same zip code. Good lord.....
     
  8. Jango

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    1) Airspace around White House is most protected.
    2) The Pentagon isn't impervious from being attacked, just like Rome wasn't impervious from being sacked by barbarians that lived in the woods.
     
  9. Jango

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    I wouldn't call that 'promoting' but 'exacerbating'. Now, the media on the other hand, they've had a tendency to promote.
     
  10. Brother Jonathan

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    The Pentagon has its own missile defence system. Let's quit pretending that our military is incompetent. They have been killing people around the world for nearly 100 years. They know exactly how to kill people and cover it up.

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    Who do you think controls the media?
     
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    Does it? Cite your source for this nugget of information.

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    Point to the batteries of missiles, please.
     
  12. Brother Jonathan

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    If you actually had any interest in the truth you would already know that. Do your own homework.
     
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    So once again, you have no source. Just made it up, huh?
     
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    1) They do now, yes. And as monolithic as the U.S. armed forces are, there remains widespread incompetency. And this goes from the lowest E-1 to the highest O-10. It extends from the beginning (recruitment and boot camp) through on and down the line to retirement or separation from the service.

    2) Not the government. Though our media is one that consists of a lot of lapdog personalities, the U.S. runs a mostly independent media even though the word of the government is treated as gospel and parroted daily. Nevertheless, the media is quick to point out things the government would rather it didn't, like, N.S.A. spying or the flip-flopping story from the White House on President Obama's uncle.
     
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    You can't be serious. Jango, the media has been controlled by the elite for nearly 100 years. Only the Internet has exposed them and even the Internet is highly controlled. Walter Duranty of the New York Times? Walter Cronkite the most trusted liar in America. For 100 years the media has been covering up very important truths. They protected the NSA until Snowden outed them. Let's quit pretending that our military is incompetent and that the media has our best interests at heart.
     
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    I asked you to provide a source showing a missile defense system in place at the Pentagon on 9/11/01. Thus far you have been unable to do so.
    Are you now falling back on incredulity?
    Provide evidence for your claim, please.
     
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    no that's not a fairly tale at all, only you guys claim this. They were not cavemen, these guys actually spent years in the US and trained as pilots, making them pretty darn sophisticated, probably way more intelligent than you.

    and yes, this is totally believable as they used the element of surprise, planned for years and were smart enough to use box cutters because if they had tried bringing in guns and explosives, they would've been caught. Plus, they told passengers they had bombs, so passengers didn't know they just had box cutters and even then, not many would have the guts to stand up and fight a group of terrorists with box cutters. Not to mention they threatened to kill flight attendants..

    NOTHING of this is a fairy tale, NOTHING... but the story you guys claim, that i summarized a few posts ago, is so ludicrous, ridiculous, crazy, fantastic that even Hollywood won't touch it. If you go watch movies about government cover ups, they don't even come close to being as fantastic as your story.
     
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    There were no missile batteries, it is an office building, not a fortress.
     
  22. Hannibal

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    Bump for BJ:
    Where's the evidence for missile batteries at the Pentagon on 9/11/01?
     
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    I am sure there is a youtube video by Jonathan Cole somewhere on the subject
     
  24. Brother Jonathan

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    I don't have that. That is part of the conspiracy behind the cover-up. Deception. False information is put out and promoted. And I also don't know for sure that a airplane hit the Pentagon. It seems like that flight pattern was a very difficult maneuver. Professional pilots claim it was impossible.

    It still seems far fetched to me that the people in the Pentagon with multi-billion dollar budgets who claim to be able to defend America couldn't even defend themselves on 9/11.
     
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    See the obfuscation. I've never read anything about Jonathan Cole ever making that claim. Prove it. Jonathan Cole at 911SpeakOut.org
     

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