9/11 Pentagon Attack - Behind the Smoke Curtain - Barbara Honegger

They are bull(*)(*)(*)(*) questions,lacking common sense.....

 

So you'll be suing for a grand jury, then?
When will you begin?

 

1. Fog of war and confusion took their toll. NEADS defenders did the best they could based on the limited information they could gather. NEADS only knew there was a unknown third aircraft missing at 0920. They scrambled fighters immediately, but they didn't get airborne until 0930. AA77 hit the Pentagon at 0937; no time to stop it, not to mention NEADS didn't even find out about it until it was directly overhead the Pentagon. Hind sight is 20/20.Source.

2. Because his testimony was wrong. His time line was off by over a half hour. What Mineta said was happening at 0920, was actually happening closer to 10am. Source.

3. It didn't. Sure, it hit an area recently renovated, but so what? He had a 1 to 4 chance. None starter. As for the second part of that regarding the $2.3T, that is completely false. First, the money was never missing; those who say it was have never actually read Rumsfelds speech. Second, it was accounted for in 2002. Source. Source.

4. How would the hijackers have known which part of the Pentagon would be the most, or least populated. Are you serious? Again, 1 to 4 chance. There's nothing more to it.

5. Hani Hanjour was the most experience of the pilots, had a rating to fly a Boeing 737 commercially (Source). Perhaps he knew diving onto a target could cause the aircraft to over stress and compromise controllability? Maybe he wanted to put on a show of horror before his impact. Who knows. He was after all over 7,000ft above his target by the time he managed to figure out where he was. Where would the mission failure be? Even if he had been shot down, he still would have killed scores of people on the ground. Office buildings, military bases, schools, residential.. debris could have hit any of those targets. Truth be, no one knows why he decided to perform his turn. But that is totally irrelevant, because he did perform that turn. It's like asking why did a bird crap on your car instead of the garden next to it.

6. No, it wasn't. And no, he wasn't untrained.

First of all, as showed above, he had a rating to fly 737's commercially. He had a few hundred hours, had been flying in the US since 1997, and had plenty of experience in large jet simulators, just like the rest of the hijackers. Source.

Second, the only thing difficult about the manoeuvre would be trying to replicate how bad it was executed. It was a 330 degree turn in over 3 minutes, that's almost half the speed of a rate 1 turn. His angle of bank fluctuated between 10 and 40 degres. His rate of descent was even worse. In some parts of his turn, he actually gained altitude. His speed fluctuated between 260 and 300 knots.





Dramatising the flying procedure and minimizing the flying abilities of Hani Hanjour seems a common habit in a movement which prides itself on apparently seeking "truth". Why a "truth" movement would be so openly and deliberately dishonest really must make one wonder. More information on all points can be found in the link below.

http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/

 

Sounds like crazy conspiracy theory to me.

 

Sounds like every lie the conspiracy theories have ever tried to make has been debunked.

 

Hey, cjnewson88 good to hear from you. I see you are all over the Internet debunking the truth. I would much rather hear Donald Rumsfeld answer those questions under oath than to accept your propaganda that our military is simply incompetent. They get big bucks to protect us. $Billions of dollars! Their incompetency is unacceptable to this taxpayer.

 

Cool story, I've provided you the answers. You can check them and listen to the tapes yourself. But you wont.

 

Au contraire! I am actually watching this propaganda as we type. It is your propaganda is it not?

[video=youtube;MVh9WgGxuIY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVh9WgGxuIY[/video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVh9WgGxuIY

 

Not mine, but yes I did upload it. But I said listen to the tapes, as in get the raw data like I did and go through it yourself.

 

I am watching and learning. You are all over the Internet debunking the truth with your propaganda. Your material is not all that impressive to me as of yet. Nonetheless, I am keeping an open mind to determine if you are a truth teller or a liar.

 

When are you assembling that grand jury? Just 24 more 'truthers' to locate.

 

When 24 more people understand that the truth is more important than the lie. Then we will put accomplices of murder after the fact behind bars as they should spend the rest of their lives.

 

It's been 12 years ... you can't find just two dozen people to agree with you??

 

I just started trying yesterday. Don't be stupid.

 

Yet, one thing I can say for certain. That those who are part of the conspiracy to cover-up the conspiracy is guilty of accomplice to murder after the fact which carries the same penalties as those involved in the murder of 3000 Americans. There is no statute of limitations for murder.

 

The fact is that conspiracy theorists not only have a story that's even too fantastic for hollywood, they have absolutely ZERO credible evidence. All of it is based on residual inconsistencies and fabricated lies. It is impossible for the government to have carried out the hundreds of crazy things you guys claim they did and then covered it all up so incredibly well. To top it off, Bush gets credit of being at the helm when people claim he was so incompetent he couldn't even tie his shoes.

 

Why haven't your thousands of 'experts' ever done so? To busy collecting money from the gullible, I suppose.

 

Im waiting for BJ to talk about the underground anti-aircraft missiles at the Pentagon.

 

Mike12, you are the biggest conspiracy theorist of all. You like to deny that you are a conspiracy guy, but yet the facts of life differ with you. You pretend that you and Barbie are dolls ... plastic patrons of the mid-nineteenth century who pretend to believe in Christmas and Santa Claus. When does the tooth fairy come to your bed? When you are seven?

 

Barbie, Santa Claus, and Christmas.

is this what 9-11 Truth has come to?

 

Looks like Dr. builder has resorted to the moderated martyr gambit. Ie get yourself tossed from a board and claim it's because you got too close to the truth. (conveniently leave out that you violated TOS)

 

no i just don't believe in the following story:

At the pentagon, a drone was remote controlled into the pentagon and hit by a missile just before it impacted, as to not leave a trace. Flight 77disappeared off radar at exactly the same time the drone impacted and this was achieved using high tech NSA/CIA technology and secret methods. The flight landed safely in Ohio, 183 passengers killed and bodies sent to Dover morgue for an autopsy; this was timed perfectly so the bodies arrived at the same time the pentagon emloyee's bodies' got there. Wreckage of an American Airlines flight (perhaps the same plane that landed in Ohio, after it got blown up secretly) was planted in the pentagon. Dozens of witnesses who saw the 757 were paid in advance to say that they saw the plane and cell phone calls faked using morph voice technology, which even mimicked the personalities of the deceased.

meanwhile, flight 93 was shot by missile above Pensylvania without leaving a trace of the missile..

simultaneous to all this, two missiles hit the twin towers at precisely the spot where explosives were planted; the explosives detonated shortly after impact to bring the towers down. This of course wasn't a typical demolition as it was set off from the top down (at impact site), not brought down from the bottom first, as typical demolitions work. Tower 7 also had explosives planted which were set off after the fire had been raging for a while and WTC collapse debris had hit it.. The planners knew that the WTC were going to damage this building and create fires so this is why they only planted explosives in this building and not other adjacent ones.

The FBI lied about the 64 cell calls which originated from the 4 planes and NSA/CIA faked all calls using the aforementioned morph voice technology. The air traffic controller recordings where the pilots and terrorists' voices were heard, were fabricated and plane wreckage planted in the WTC site of course. Any evidence of explosives in all 3 buildings was confiscated and never shared with the public. The press was in the conspiracy and instructed to start spreading news of planes hitting the towers, this included fake footage of the planes which was prepared for national TV beforehand using advanced special effects techniques. Eye witnesses who saw the planes were in the conspiracy too, paid and threatened. Calls from the people in the towers to family members claiming they saw planes hit the towers were also faked using morph voice technology. Videos of the hijackers at the airports just prior to boarding were all fabricated and the real story not told. The terrorists around the world, in particular Al Queda, were instructed to celebrate the attacks and admit to being the perpetrators.

the CIA, NSA, FBI and the Bush administration did this to create a new 'pearl harbor' to suspend civil liberties and get a pass to invade the Middle East and gain control over oil supplies. They all covered it all up and nobody involved which included people in CIA, NSA, airports, airlines, FBI, Bush administration, press, witnesses, fire fighters, local police have kept their mouths shut.

This is all stuff i have pulled directly from these conspiracy theory videos you guys have posted and there's a lot of good stuff i'm missing..

 

I stopped believing in those two when I came to the realisation a couple of years ago that there is as much "evidence" to say they exist as there is that 9/11 was an inside job; none.

 

A couple of years ago? What had you convinced before you realized religion is a conspiracy theory?

 

I was raised as a christian, and even though I never really went to church once I got into my teens, I still had that belief in the back of my head that there is a god. It wasn't until after I got into conspiracy theories for a couple of years that I started seeing that I too was believing in god based purely on faith, just like conspiracy theorists believe in their theories purely on faith. I also heavily got into skeptic material, watching Penn & Teller, James Randi, and basically after a couple of years of resisting I just had to admit to myself that there really is no evidence that a god exists. Now, that's not to say I'm arrogant enough to say there is no god, but I can honestly say there is no evidence that he does, only faith.