9/11 - WTC Building 7: Sound Evidence for Explosions

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  1. Brother Jonathan

    Brother Jonathan Banned

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    The real experts? :lol: Watch Thomas Eagar Ph. D. fiddle his fingers.... :lol: at 14:00 in this video.

    [video=youtube;OrBNJJc-DIY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrBNJJc-DIY[/video]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrBNJJc-DIY

    This guy is suppose to be a professional engineer. Why MIT keeps paying his salary is beyond me. Thomas Eagar is not a very smart person. He certainly does not understand Sir Isaac Newton's laws of physics. I hope his 30 ounces of silver was worth it.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and what about all the other experts that show 9-11 Truth is all lies & garbage?

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    "A new era": The limits of engineering expertise in a post-9/11 world
    Pfatteicher, S.K.A. 2007 International Symposium on Technology and Society, Proceedings, art. no. 4362228

    Progressive collapse of the World Trade Center: Simple analysis
    Seffen, K.A. 2008 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 134 (2), pp. 125-132

    Scale modeling of the 96th floor of world trade center tower 1
    Wang, M., Chang, P., Quintiere, J., Marshall, A. 2007 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 21 (6), pp. 414-421

    Failure of welded floor truss connections from the exterior wall during collapse of the world trade center towers
    Banovic, S.W., Siewert, T.A. 2007 Welding Journal (Miami, Fla) 86 (9), pp. 263-s-272-s

    The collapse of the world trade center towers: A metallurgist's view
    Gayle, F.W. 2007 MRS Bulletin 32 (9), pp. 710-716

    Building code changes reflect world trade center investigation
    Hansen, B. 2007 Civil Engineering 77 (9), pp. 22+24-25

    The structural steel of the World Trade Center towers
    Gayle, F.W., Banovic, S.W., Foecke, T., Fields, R.J., Luecke, W.E., McColskey, J.D., McCown, C., Siewert, T.A. 2006 Journal of Failure Analysis and Prevention 6 (5), pp. 5-8

    Progressive collapse of structures: Annotated bibliography and comparison of codes and standards
    Mohamed, O.A. 2006 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 20 (4), art. no. 001604QCF, pp. 418-425

    A simple model of the World Trade Center fireball dynamics
    Baum, H.R., Rehm, R.G., Quintiere, J.G. 2005 Proceedings of the Combustion Institute 30 II, pp. 2247-2254

    Impact of the Boeing 767 Aircraft into the World Trade Center
    Karim, M.R., Hoo Fatt, M.S. 2005 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 131 (10), pp. 1066-1072

    High-fidelity simulation of large-scale structures
    Hoffmann, C., Sameh, A., Grama, A. 2005 Lecture Notes in Computer Science 3515 (II), pp. 664-671

    Collapses of the world trade center towers
    [No author name available] 2005 Indian Concrete Journal 79 (, pp. 11-16

    Industry updates: Fireproofing, staircases cited in World Trade Center report
    [No author name available] 2005 Journal of Failure Analysis and Prevention 5 (4), pp. 34

    September 11 and fracture mechanics - A retrospective
    Cherepanov, G.P. 2005 International Journal of Fracture 132 (2), pp. L25-L26

    Structural responses of World Trade Center under aircraft attacks
    Omika, Y., Fukuzawa, E., Koshika, N., Morikawa, H., Fukuda, R. 2005 Journal of Structural Engineering 131 (1), pp. 6-15

    Impact of the 2001 World Trade Center attack on critical interdependent infrastructures
    Mendonça, D., Lee II, E.E., Wallace, W.A. 2004 Conference Proceedings - IEEE International Conference on Systems, Man and Cybernetics 5, pp. 4053-4058

    Use of high-efficiency energy absorbing device to arrest progressive collapse of tall building
    Zhou, Q., Yu, T.X. 2004 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 130 (10), pp. 1177-1187

    Progressive analysis procedure for progressive collapse
    Marjanishvili, S.M. 2004 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 18 (2), pp. 79-85

    Lessons learned on improving resistance of buildings to terrorist attacks
    Corley, W.G. 2004 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 18 (2), pp. 68-78

    Anatomy of a disaster: A structural investigation of the World Trade Center collapses
    Abboud, N., Levy, M., Tennant, D., Mould, J., Levine, H., King, S., Ekwueme, C., (...), Hart, G. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 360-370

    World Trade Center disaster: Damage/debris assessment
    Thater, G.G., Panariello, G.F., Cuoco, D.A. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 383-392

    How did the WTC towers collapse: A new theory
    Usmani, A.S., Chung, Y.C., Torero, J.L. 2003 Fire Safety Journal 38 (6), pp. 501-533

    Microstructural analysis of the steels from Buildings 7, & 1 or 2 from the World Trade Center
    Biederman, R.R., Sullivan, E.M., Sisson Jr., R.D., Vander Voort, G.F. 2003 Microscopy and Microanalysis 9 (SUPPL. 2), pp. 550-551

    Brannigan, F.L.
    "WTC: Lightweight Steel and High-Rise Buildings"
    Fire Engineering v.155, no. 4, (2002): 145-150.

    Analysis of the thermal exposure in the impact areas of the World Trade Center terrorist attacks
    Beyler, C., White, D., Peatross, M., Trellis, J., Li, S., Luers, A., Hopkins, D. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 371-382

    Clifton, Charles G.
    Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers
    HERA: Innovation in Metals. 2001. 13 December 2001.

    "Construction and Collapse Factors"
    Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002): 106-108.

    Bazant, Z.P., & Zhou, Y.
    "Addendum to 'Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" (pdf)
    Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 3, (2002): 369-370.

    Corbett, G.P.
    "Learning and Applying the Lessons of the WTC Disaster"
    Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002.): 133-135.

    "Dissecting the Collapses"
    Civil Engineering ASCE v. 72, no. 5, (2002): 36-46.

    Federal Emergency Management Agency, Therese McAllister, report editor.
    World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations




    I love to see the Truthers take on all of these expert reviews of the collapses.
     
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    Unfounded ad hominem...big surprise
     
  4. Brother Jonathan

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    Thomas Eagar is the laughing stock of the world. MIT pure fail. He is a total joke.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nice cherry picking.

    what about all the other many expert studies of the collapses?
     
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    So using his hands,gesturing is 'fiddling with his fingers' now?.....local weather forcaster must give you fits then,reverend...
     
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    Yet you can offer nothing more than your opinion to prove so. Shocker.

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    If he is a total joke, I would be scared to see what that makes you. OH I know, irrelevant.
     
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    What sound does the bird make when it pops out of the face of the clock?
     
  9. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    now Truthers think non-Truthers belong in mental hospitals.

    the Soviet Union felt the same way about folks who didn't accept their beliefs.
     
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    I call.

    Show us which of those reviewed peering experts of yours analysed this city fried steel.

    [​IMG]

    I have read those reports and cant find anyone, but I am sure you will be happy to put our finger which one right?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  11. Brother Jonathan

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    These folks are shills.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you think anyone who dares to question 9-11 Truth, is a shill.
     
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    Enough with the insults.
     
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    I will let the stupidity in this post stand as is. The fact that you do not understand the collapse is self evident. Thank you for playing.

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    I will take being a shill over a sucker anyday of the week.
     
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    Exaclty.
     
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    BotherJoanathan, define your use of the term "shill"
     
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    so you post that gargantuan list of reviewed peering a long list of grandiose claims


    and when I ask you to cite which one any one I dont care that addresses the above steel that is how you respond?

    Whos stupidity are you referring to? Certainly cant be me.
     
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    You responded didn't you? I certainly am addressing you. You can't even understand eutectic reaction, instead referring to it as city fried steel. You think you have some gotcha moment, and you don't. What I posted were only several papers regarding studies of the WTC complex. That they do not address what YOU think to be an important find, means nothing. As the point you are trying to prove is negated by the fact that there was no thermite of any form found in the rubble, you have been informed of this in other threads as well, as you have posted the same questions there. Gamalon has done a fine job in answering this question truthfully, and accurately. The fact that you find it unacceptable is on you. Again thanks for playing.

    As you were told in another thread:

    "In the World Trade Center fire, the presence of oxygen, sulfur and heat caused iron oxide and iron sulfide to form at the surface of structural steel members. This liquid slag corroded through intergranular channels into the body of the metal, causing severe erosion and a loss of structural integrity"
     
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    That's easy. Anyone who says the "official story" is true.
     
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    anyone can plant turds on the lawn and claim there is a hidden treasure in them LOL

    I said I read them all, NONE of them address the iron I have shown.

    I ask you to cite any one that does and you dodge. same MO as the other board
     
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    That is a fair question. If none of their peer reviewed experts examined the iron then they do not have any proof of their assertions.
     
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    there is no molten iron at the wtc.
     
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    I guess that holds true for anything you are claiming also, right BJ?
     
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    [​IMG][/QUOTE]

    How do you know truthers came up with the right answer? Nobody ever posted an answer! Oh wait. Let me guess. They sent you the answer privately.

    Must be nice to present a question when you can;t even get the units right. Clever of you to try and make it look like you planned it that way AFTER I caught your mistake. And I'm supposed to trust you have the right answer? Not bloody likely.

    :roflol:
     
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    First responder eyewitness testimony disagrees with you.

    9/11: Molten Metal at Ground Zero
    [video=youtube;cCdRA09pztM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCdRA09pztM[/video]
     
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