9/11 - WTC Building 7: Sound Evidence for Explosions

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  1. djlunacee

    djlunacee New Member

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    Was your question addressed? Yes, it was by Gamalon and I twice. I didn't dodge you, I smacked you straight in the mouth. Rust, eutectic reaction. Done and done. and as far as your little math problem goes...it just goes to show what kind of fool you are when you have been shown twice now that you can't even pose the question right, so how could you understand the answer. Mama always said stupid is as stupid does. For that quote you are the front running poster child. It seems only fitting to send you to ignore since your ignorance may start to rub off.

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    There were metallurgists as first responders? Damn, do you ever get tired of being so dishonest and wrong?
     
  2. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Conspiracy theorists, like Creationists, will cling to every little discredited sliver of faux evidence they can while ignoring the wealth of facts contrary to their views.

    I blame ego. They invest themselves in their crazy views to the point where they would have to feel like major dupes for having been so taken in by the lies, so they keep clinging to those lies rather than face and accept reality, accept the shame for their past mistakes and learn from those mistakes.

    Humans are weird.
     
  3. Quantumhead

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    This is such a stupid and obviously false straw man that I'm not even sure it's worth taking the time to respond to. The specific fallacy you are using is implying that an object cannot fall down at the same time it ejects material.

    Explosives release energy outwards, so you saw material being ejected because explosives were responsible for the collapses.

    You're now one reply away from ignore, so congrats.
     
  4. Brother Jonathan

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    That is not true at all. I believed the official story until 2007 when I began to look at the facts. The official story is not true.
    Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, president of the Perdana Global Peace Foundation and former Prime Minister of Malaysia along with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Italy would like answers to 9/11. Are they crazy conspiracy theorists too?

    [video=youtube;8HZdgaViIyI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HZdgaViIyI[/video]
     
  5. djlunacee

    djlunacee New Member

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    Agreed.
     
  6. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I began to look at the facts, too, and I find that they overwhelmingly support the "official story," as the CTs like to call it.
     
  7. djlunacee

    djlunacee New Member

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    Why, yes they are. Your appeal to authority is laughable.

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    Key word being OVERWHELMINGLY
     
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    I read someplace where the 5th Grade Physics teacher from Liechtenstein was there also
     
  9. Gamolon

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    Let's read the second part of your quote:

    So wait a second. First you imply an object can eject material as it falls then turn around and say material was ejected due to explosives. So explain your first quote. Are you saying that an object can eject material WITHOUT explosives?

    What material was "ejected" and what proof do you have that it wasn't a parabolic trajectory brought on by the descending debris pushing things outward as it descended? Are you trying to say that a perimeter facade section, 1000 ft up cannot land 600 feet away from the building simply from the force of the descending debris pushing it outward?

    Anyways, by all means. Put me on ignore. That's what you'll probably do anyways because you don;t want to answer the questions above.
     
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    Just as there is no universal definition of God, neither is there a universal definition of "conspiracy theorist." In strict dictionary terms, it simply means someone who believes the government isn't telling the truth about something. Ironic then, that you're comparing belief in the fallibility of the real, with belief in the infallibility of the unreal.

    You are the ones with a religious mind, proven by the literal hundreds of conspiracies already in the history books. If you were a bit older or a bit wiser, you'd already know how the term "conspiracy theorist" was used by the Bush Administration as a propaganda tool to ridicule those pointing out the unbelievably gigantic holes in their obviously false story. Unfortunately, not being astute enough, you've simply become one of Goebbels' braying dogs, calling for the heads of the Jews.
     
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    High pressure is what causes the ejection of materials. The degree of pressure which has been applied is measurable by how much debris is expelled, how far and how fast that debris travels. You see what I'm getting at?

    Of course you do, but I expect you will continue to deliberately manipulate language to create a false argument.
     
  12. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    So you don't think a perimeter column section, 1000 ft up, can be pushed in a parabolic trajectory to land 500 or 600 hundred feet away?

    If I rolled a bowling ball off the top of one of the twin towers, how far away would it land from the perimeter facade? No high pressure needed right? Just a little momentum/force to roll the bowling ball right?

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    Let me guess. Perimeter columns, weighing tons, ejected horizontally at 60-70 mph? Is that going to be your claim?
     
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    I heard they decided to "pull" his teaching license. According to truthers, they blew it up. And they wonder why people point and laugh.
     
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    I don't think people wonder why people point and laugh at people seeking the truth. That's what people do who don't understand their world. The truth is too scary for them so they point and laugh and never look into the facts.
     
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    you use the word "truth" like a punchline.
     
  16. Brother Jonathan

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    9/11 has been proven to be an inside job. Even the names of the perpetrators are known and exposed. Only people who haven't studied for the truth don't know that fact. The proof is irrefutable evidence. 9/11 was an inside job.

    Here is the proof: 9/11 Pentagon Attack - Behind the Smoke Curtain - Barbara Honegger
     
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    Not hardly....more like wishful thinking of troothers
     
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    Your sentence is a total fabrication. Nothing of the sort has been proven.
     
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    It is all over but the cryin for you truth debunkers.

    The 9/11 Toronto Report
    Irrefutable evidence 9/11 was an inside job.
     
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    When you present a fact regarding 9/11 let me know. But your projection in this post is very interesting and enlightening. Understand the facts and truth you seek are all around you, and have been presented to you. The fact is it is a scary thing to accept that there are individuals and organizations in the world that are hell bent on destroying this country. The fact is America is not as invincible as most would have you believe, so the concept of being attacked on our own soil by enemy forces scares people who can't handle the truth. Which is why the truth movement are a cult, locked in their own little world, denying what reality really is, they cling to their nonsensical beliefs no matter how many times the truth is laid out in front of them. So they do the easy thing and blame their own government of being complicit in the mass murder of 3000 of its own citizens rather than accepting the truth that an outside force had the capability to exploit our largest weakness (arrogance) and commit an act of war against us on our own soil without any regard to human life including their own. Why? I don't know why the truth movement feels that way. Basic logic, critical thinking, and rational thought escape them.

    Let's use an example shall we? Your claim is that explosives were used to bring the towers down, correct? Of course it is you have stated as much in several threads. There is zero argument that collapse initiation occured at the point of the plane impacts for WTC1 and 2. There is no arguing that it is a fact. So, according to you and your theory this is where bombs would need to be placed, because there is no way on this earth that fires, structural damage, and gravity could have made those towers fall to the ground, right? How did the cutting charges survive the impacts of the planes, and ensuing fires? Yet bomb sniffing dogs detected zero explosives entering the WTC buildings in the months and weeks pre 9/11, and zero evidence has been found since. No RDX, Thermi/a/o/u/ete in any form nano, micro, macro, or collosal has been shown to be found at the site either. Do you see the flaws in your theory yet?
     
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    The truth movement has proved 9/11 was an inside job. Don't be the last to know.

    The 9/11 Toronto Report

     
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    No it hasn't , list the names of the perpetrators (with evidence).

    Oh and another question, this is to Brother Jonathan how exactly was 9/11 carried out? and can you explain this without youtube or your truther sites. All I want is to explain it in your own words.
     
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    It will be your choice to be the last to know. I have linked to experts, to independent investigations, and linked to the book that proves it.
    The 9/11 Toronto Report

    You insist on demanding that I tell you how 9/11 was carried out. I have told you numerous times I don't have a theory. What I know for fact is that 19 cavemen from the Middle East did not defeat America's defense on 9/11.
     
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    You're right 19 cavemen didn't do it. Most of the hijackers attended universities and obtained degrees. But I mean if you can prove they lived in a cave in Hamburg, Germany by all means, do so.
     
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