George Zimmerman's Girlfriend Wants to Drop Charges, 'Be With Him'

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Trayvon was just under 6 feet tall. (see coroner report)

Trayvon DID ask Zimmerman "what are you following me for?" which any well trained security guard, or any decent person would have answered by something like: "I am the neighborhood watch captain, and I was wondering if you need help finding an address since you seem to be visiting here." THAT would have de-escalated the whole silly event.

"Close to home" can be anywhere within 200 yards. . .since he had walked over 2 miles. I would say that, once he turned the corner of the alley between the townhouses, that would have been "close to home," since it was a straight shot from there.

 

So...... then you're saying that a 17 yr old w/a normal IQ doesn't have the mental capacity to know right from wrong, even if he had been taught this by good parenting, - he doesn't have the mental capacity to make quick, common sense decisions, like if he believed he was in danger and was within close distance from his home, to run home, then call 911, if he felt the danger was still outside .... these are some examples that many 17 yr olds are capable of.....

So you're another one who thinks 17 yr olds are just children. In that case, did your mom/dad let you, their 17 yr 'child' old go out the door alone at nitetime - or even in broad daylight - if they felt you didn't have the 'level of responsibility' to keep yourself out of trouble? Or you wouldn't be responsible enuf, smart enuf to know what to do if someone was following you, or you tho't they were and you even had a cell phone on you?

Even 5 yr olds will run if they felt they were in danger..... it's called survival instinct........

You don't hand the car keys to your 17 yr old "CHILD" and ask him/her to run to the store for you.....

You don't let your 17 yr old CHILD climb up on a neighbor's 2-story home and help him roof his house.... which is what my teenage son did. He already had the experience and knew how to not fall off the roof and this was one way how he earned his own $..... it was his choice...

There have been teenagers who have taken on the same level of responsibility as an adult thru out the decades..... farm boys is a good example, and the 17 yr olds who joined the service b/c they could.......

You don't give 17 yr old kids any credit for having any brains. Why not? Do you have kids?

 

Been there and done that. The myths you are not presenting have been debunked time band again. Why don't you show us something that is of a more recent date. Your links are old and were reported before anything came out to show different.

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So you were there? There is no credible evidence to back your claim. Try again

FYI....

c.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/conscience-realist/2013/jul/1/trayvon-martins-legal-troubles-reportedly-covered-up

http://www.sodahead.com/united-stat...prosecutors-h/question-3792960/?nomobile=true

 

I find it interesting that you said "I'm another one" who believes that at 17 year old is a child. Rest assured that there are plenty of people who recognize that a seventeen year old doesn't have the life experience of someone twice his age. Usually, this means that they have limited perspective in comparison to someone who is forty or even thirty. There are plenty of people who understand that teenagers are still developing. Teenagers have curfews, sometimes they are legally imposed. Teenagers are more likely to get into serious car accidents when driving, partly because of imecperience but teens have also been known to feel invincible and take greater risks. According to a scientific study, the human brain isn't fully developed until about age twenty-five. It is widely understood that teens are not usually as mature as people who are old enough to have teenage children.

I'm sorry that your friend lost all of her children. That is a tremendous amount of loss to bear. Shouldn't knowing someone who lost a child make you empathetic to Mrs. Martin? Mrs. Martin has a right to speak about her heartache and her sons in heaven and on earth. Why would you criticize her commiseration?

 

I completely agree with you that Zimmerman should have identified himself and he should have stayed in the car and the evening could have ended pleasantly for both of them. I was qouting Hummingbird in my post but it was not clear because the quote annotations were missing. I tried to edit the post but the time had elapsed.

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Trayvon was just under 6 feet tall. (see coroner report)

Trayvon DID ask Zimmerman "what are you following me for?" which any well trained security guard, or any decent person would have answered by something like: "I am the neighborhood watch captain, and I was wondering if you need help finding an address since you seem to be visiting here." THAT would have de-escalated the whole silly event.

"Close to home" can be anywhere within 200 yards. . .since he had walked over 2 miles. I would say that, once he turned the corner of the alley between the townhouses, that would have been "close to home," since it was a straight shot from there.[/QUOTE]

 

^^^^^^^^^^^This








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And as noted earlier in this thread a reporter later did find the police report of stolen jewelry which matched the jewelry and was stolen from a home in close proximity to where Martin lived and it was an administrative error that they were not tied together.

 

A child is before adolescence physically and only in some jurisdictions is the legal status applied to anyone under 18. Had Martin not been killed that night he would have been charged with felony assault and quite possibly tried as an adult.

 

Trayvon DID ask Zimmerman "what are you following me for?" [/QUOTE]

Or "you got a f***ing problem".

You are in no position to second quess what happened.

Right by is not, it is right by, next to. He told the girlfriend he ran back to the apartment and that matches the timeline of events and the fact that Zimmerman did not see him as he crossed the T. The weight of the evidence is Martin ran off losing Zimmerman, was back at the safety of the apartment yet choose to go back and confront Zimmerman. This despite your previous claims that other evidence present at trial would show otherwise was in fact shown in court.

 

Did you even bother to read the link to the story about the police report and WHY he was never charged?

In possession, residue can get you charged.

The weight of the evidence is that he at the least was in possession of stolen items, his refusal to account for how would be considered evidence he stole them.

It doesn't have to since he was not persuing Marting and his attempting to observe to where he ran was legitimate and reasonable.

The fact remains that the claim there was no police report of stolen jewelry is false.

Who has claimed he did, why the canard?

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MARGOT.........................oh MARGOT

I posted the Florida law now substantiate your claim or admit you were wrong. To where have you run off to this time?

 

Yes, we're all aware that 17 yr old s don't have the life experiences of a 40 yr old and we're all aware that the brain is still developing until around age 25 and we're all aware that teenagers think they're invincible. That's not what I was talking about.

I was pointing out that those w/a normal IQ do have the mental capacity to show common sense. Like the common sense to protect themselves if they tho't they were in danger... the common sense not to go back and confront their stalker, if there was one. If you were 17, would you do that? And as I had pointed out, to feel you're in danger, even a 5 yr old, even a toddler would run from someone or something they fear - it's called 'survival instinct'. That is built in the human & animal brain.

There have been cases where the teen boy saved his life and his younger sibling(s) when he heard someone break into his home and the parents were gone.

Please explain why it is that decades ago a 17 yr old male was very capable of doing his share of hard labor, operating heavy equipment, packing a rifle and going to war.... but now he's a 'child' w/diminished mental capacity?

If you treat your 17 yr old like a child, he/she will act like a child, not capable of learning & handling responsibilities.... and of course, teens screw up, sometimes majorly - part of the learning process.

I noticed you avoided my one question. When you were 17 and considered a 'child' - were you allowed to leave the house by yourself at nitetime and stay gone for several hours?

As a mother myself, I was very empathetic towards the Martins. Losing your child would be the ultimate heartache. No other loss could possibly match that.....

As far as Mrs. Martin's comment goes, I'll explain it this way.... as the months went by, she reminded me of Cindy Sheehan.....remember her?

And didn't I hear that Mrs. Martin copy-righted Trayvon's name, which will bring in $?

Do you have kids?

 

Or "you got a f***ing problem".[/quote]

Who heard him say that? Oh thats right it was Zimmerman who heard him say that.

Sure you can second guess it. The bottomline is Zimmerman put what happened that night into motion when he got out of his truck trying to play the police.

I don't recall him telling his girlfriend, "I am back at the crib."

The weight of the evidence is that Zimmerman got out of his vehicle with a loaded weapon in pursuit of Trayvon.

The evidence showed what it has always shown in this country and that is the life of a young black man is not really worth much in the "Dirty South".

 

Who heard him say that? Oh thats right it was Zimmerman who heard him say that.[/QUOTE]

Yep in his several consistent statements.

The poster is in no position to do so.

Quote where I said he did say that.

Did Zimmerman ever deny he got our of his truck with his gun? And there was no pursuit which implies capture.

If they are committing a felony assault and threatening someone with serious bodily harm or death why should it, why should anyone's in any part of the country? I guess hispanic's lives aren't worth much in the "Dirty rest of the country"? BTW Sanford FL is not really thought of as "The South", only the northern part of the state, the middle and lower areas are inhabitated more by people who came from the north and Cuba and have more in common with those regions than "the South".

 

Yep in his several consistent statements.[/quote]

Yea that means its true because he kept repeating it.

Why not, the poster has got common sense.

Oh thats right my bad. Apartment and Crib are the same thing.

Who said he denied it.

BS, folks are pursued everyday they are not always captured.

Save me that serious bodily harm crap. I have never seen a 17yr old teenager cause any great bodily harm or death of a grown man in a fist fight.

You are correct, but Trayvon was being pursued by a hispanic.

Really how much further south can you go than Florida in the United States?

 

Yea that means its true because he kept repeating it.





Why not, the poster has got common sense.







Oh thats right my bad. Apartment and Crib are the same thing.





Who said he denied it.



BS, folks are pursued everyday they are not always captured.





Save me that serious bodily harm crap. I have never seen a 17yr old teenager cause any great bodily harm or death of a grown man in a fist fight.



You are correct, but Trayvon was being pursued by a hispanic.



Really how much further south can you go than Florida in the United States?[/QUOTE]

Interesting do you consider say Maui part of the south?

 

The poster that believes the phrase "right by his fathers house" can be quantified by an actual distance and has everything to do with how far a person has traveled prior has common sense?

LOLOLOL!!!!

 

I guess you think Florida is in the Northeast also. Gotta love it.

 

Ah your little suggest someone thinks or said something they didnt game.. Can i play?

Hint there is more to this country then the NE and South... Glad to educate you.

 

Sure you can.

Your turn.

What?? No (*)(*)(*)(*). Thxs for telling me. I thought when you got on the west side of Tennessee you would fall off.

 

Funny enough the quote your requoted was not mine.... Try to keep up.

 

Well I wasn't quoting to you to begin with, thats what happens when you come in at the ass end of a conversation.

 

Yes. The one KNOWN to have committed a crime. Fat boy goes down on obstructing a police officer as a minimum. He barricaded the police from the home of a complaining victim. I know of no jurisdiction in any country in the world where that is legal.

Oops, what? So far, this is playing out like a reality-based crime show in which some pathetic slimeball eventually murders some dumb bimbo who thought he was an acceptable mate because he fancies himself an alpha male.

 

So why didn't the creepy-looking jackass tell Martin what his problem was? When some weird slimeball is following you for no apparent reason in the dark, you have probable cause to expect harm, thus have the right of self-defense. Slimeboy needed his face broken for being a threatening thug.

You are no more so.

No, there is ZERO evidence that he came back. You have no scale to show his location at any time, aside from the word of a creepy little slimeball who shows all the typical behaviors of spouse abuser.

As someone has pointed out elsewhere, "right by his dad's house" is relative. After walking a mile, a destination 200 ft away is "almost there."

 

It is amazing how they just take Zimmerman's word at face value.

 

It's not really amazing. They just see themselves in him which is why they do it. Makes one wonder of the true character of some of our right leaning posters.