Part 11 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

that's not something to be proud of, MR. you're basically saying that acceptance at face value is all you can be bothered with. which brings with it the implication that things like truth and morality are less important to you than easy living.

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the bible is nonsense to atheists because, who'd a thunk it, the bible is nonsense.

walks like a duck ...

 

◄ Exodus 11:5 ►
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Every firstborn son in Egypt will die, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sits on the throne, to the firstborn son of the female slave, who is at her hand mill, and all the firstborn of the cattle as well.

How did all these 1st born's die?

 

I am not arguing anything I am presenting facts it is you and your kind that has been stupidly arguing and insisting that humans evolved from apes. Humans are not apes it does not take a rocket scientist to know the word ape means in its original none scientific term monkeys and their likes. We are created in the image of God not apes the same way way insects, birds, and apes are created in their own image and kind or evolved in their own kind.

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That is fine with me as long as we know and agree that you and I chose God over Lucifer.

 

Yes and they classify insects, vegetables and minerals more accurately than they did with humans because we are now learning that no way can humans have evolved from apes the ape that was meant to be monkeys that is why modern science have define Ape to mean something different but they have to make sure that the general public is aware of this which it would seems that they are not doing a good job in that.

Common names different species that is why humans are now classify in its own category separate from gorillas, chimps, etc.
Humans also consist of different races.

 

Who cares what the original use of the word was? That has absolutely no bearing on how the word is used today. I even provided you several current scientific journal articles where they describe humans as apes. You aren't presenting facts, you are representing an opinion that we should use ape like how it originally was used two hundred years ago.

 

I must have missed the facts detailing how we came to be, if not via our common ancestor, the GA. could you repeat them, please?

 

You do know that there are passages in the Bible that correct that injustice? So God screwed up when he said that the crazy old coot only had one son.

 

No can do. You and I don't get to choose. We can only live. God chooses. And your fate is already known by God. Omniscient.

 

Are you okay to use the old "N" word to address African American?

Are you interest in real education or not? If not then by all mean stick with the old word APE.

I have presented more than facts I have presented reality the reality that you refuse to accept and insist on using the old obsolete and political incorrect term.

 

As I said I am okay with you as long as you have chose God and God knows that in fact I believe majority of anti Christians here chose God over Lucifer even though they don't believe in God and in some way hate God. This is good news because this mean fewer souls will go for Lucifer.

 

Genesis 1
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, [B]after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.[/B]

And so man learn to classify every living and none living things according to their kind.

kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo





Only humans can do such classification of all living and none living things because we are created in the image of God.

 

God has ordained that only men are to serve in positions of spiritual teaching authority in the church. So logically this means women cannot serve as pastors to men. Women are not to teach men or have spiritual authority over men because Eve was deceived. As a result, God has given men the primary teaching authority in the church.

And if you cite what about the authority of women in the Old Testament, I will point out to you it is not relevant to the issue here.

The book of 1 Timothy and the other Pastoral Epistles present a new paradigm for the church---the body of Christ---and that paradigm involves the authority structure for the church, not for the nation of Israel or any other Old Testament entity.

 

Here is what I specifically said in my summary, "In summary, the testing of Abraham was not unto God’s benefit, but for Abraham (the father of the Jewish nation of Israel) sake and ours. So when God test people it is really for their benefit so they can really see themselves so to speak."

I also said previously to the summary, "God "tested" Abraham to make his faith known both to himself (Abraham) and to all the world. God put Abraham to the test as a way of revealing to all people that Abraham is truly the Father of believers."

So your statement, "But if he passed the test he already knew himself, so he learned nothing." Is an incoherent statement, I just don't know how you could come up with that even after just reading those two statements I made above in what I said in my summary and previously to the summary. And so of course Abraham learned something and so did we in that we could place absolute faith and trust in God and believe in Him with anything to do in our lives, even with things that are so precious and dear to us. In this case for Abraham it was his son Isaac.

Abraham's faith was such that, even if he had sacrificed Isaac, he believed the Lord would keep His word and raise Isaac from the dead (Hebrews 11:17–19).

Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking, he did receive Isaac back from death.
Abraham's unquestioning obedience to God’s confusing command gave God the glory He deserves and is an example to us of how to glorify God. When we obey as Abraham did, trusting that God’s plan is best, we exalt His attributes and praise Him.

Abraham's obedience in the face of this crushing command extolled God’s sovereign love, His trustworthiness, and His goodness, and it provided an example for us to follow. His faith in the God he had come to know and love placed Abraham in the pantheon of faithful heroes in Hebrews.

 

No the OT laws do not apply in today's word. Because of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ we have a New Covenant.

The Old Covenantal system, that involved such harsh punishments, has been done away with. We are under a new covenant. Jesus said in Luke 22:20 NAS: "This cup which is poured out for you in the new covenant in My blood."
This new covenant was prophecied in the Old Testament in Jer. 31:31 NAS: "Behold, days are coming," declared the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah." It is referenced in 1 Cor. 11:25, 2 Cor. 3:6, Heb. 8:8, 9:15 and 12:24.

Of particular importance is Heb. 8:13 which says, "When He said, 'A new covenant,' He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear."

And also Heb. 12:24 NLT which says, "You have come to Jesus, the one who mediates the new covenant between God and people, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks of forgiveness instead of crying out for the vengeance like the blood of Abel."

So once again like I said earlier, The Old Covenant with its harsh judicial judgments is no longer in effect because we are under a New Covenant.

 

Yes, you are making a false claim. Have you interviewed the majority of women who attend church services who told you they feel discriminated against?

There are women who believe women should not serve as pastors and that the Bible places restrictions on the ministry of women, and there are men who believe women can serve as preachers and that there are no restrictions on women in ministry. This is not an issue of chauvinism or discrimination. It is an issue of biblical interpretation.

The church has established roles for both men and women keeping in line with Scripture. And it has nothing to do with women being incapable or less intelligent or any other thing else you can come up with, thus the church does not discriminate against women.

 

So if you aren't a Jew how did you become part of the new covenant which only covers Jews?

 

It doesn't only covers Jews, it's because God graciously expanded the promise to include the Gentiles, but originally the first New Covenant believers were all Jewish!

That's why the Apostle Paul, wrote: "I am proud of the good news! It is God’s powerful way of saving all people who have faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles."---Romans 1:16 CEV

 

No, but I don't see how that is relevant. The N word isn't a scientifically used word and never has been used as one. Ape has always been used as a scientific word.

What the hell is "real" education?

It isn't obsolete, it is used to this day by biologists, and it isn't a political incorrect term since it isn't being used to denigrate anybody when it is used in biology. Can we no longer call dogs as such because "dog" can also be used to mean something degrading?

 

How are Gentiles from the House of Israel or Judah?

 

Wgabrie....this was a JOKE!

It was an attempt at seeing just WHO would be able to determine I was kidding and who would not.

I certainly don't have time to be doing any of this as what I posted was a COMMENTARY upon how Ultra-Religious Conservatives have a tendency to post, have listed in local papers or by handing out flyers a list of ACTIONS AND ACTIVITIES...such as Protesting outside a Planned Parenthood Clinic....and attempting to tell the world they are doing it.

I try TO STAY OUT OF THE LIVES OF OTHER PEOPLE....unless I have to kill them.

AboveAlpha

 

I figured it was a joke as most of your posts are.

 

RELAX.....the whole thing was a JOKE aimed at demonstrating just how ridiculous such a thing would be as such actions are posted and placed in local papers and other media sources all the time detailing THE SCHEDULE OF ULTRA-RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES...such as where, why and at what time the Faithful carrying signs and shouting slogans will be THIS WEEK and at which Planned Parenthood Clinic.

My JOKE served as a COMMENTARY to show others just how ridiculous and idiotic such things are whether they come from the Ultra-Left or Ultra-Right.

HELL...in 24 to 72 Hours I am going to be half way around the world...you think I have time for such stupidity?

I thought someone like you would get this joke?

AboveAlpha

 

Ah, it was a joke? I didn't get it. I'm sometimes the ultimate straight man regarding humor.

Sorry, sometimes I have no sense of humor.

What, Jokes? I can make them, I never said I could take them...

 

I would say "break a leg" but Fate beat me to it...

(For those who don't know, I'm talking about this thread topic: Running FAST in Traffic plus HOT Women = Sudden Impact! )

 

Do you have some particular reason WHY you enjoy poking a Hornet's nest or perhaps attempting to pull a flesh covered bone away from a Polar Bear?

If you disagree with what I post...fine....post what you believe.

If you have different beliefs...fine....post what you believe.

If you would like to explain why you think and believe what you do...fine...I am more than happy to read your beliefs and concepts and ideas...and do so coming in without a preconceived notion.

But....there is NO REASON....for you to post to me in the manner you have been such as your post #396 of this topic or such posts where I and another were communicating at it had absolutely NOTHING to do with you.

I am shortly going to be leaving....within 72 hours....and I am not sure how long I will be gone and I am not even sure if I will make it back as such a thing is ALWAYS a possibility.....but I would like to give you a bit of honestly intended to help you advice.

The other Men who make up my Team and the other Men and Women who support us....all have different beliefs....they believe in different forms of Religions, some or not Religious and are Agnostic, Atheist and some are Spiritual.

And all of these Men and Women have different Skin Colors and come from different Cultures and celebrate different Holidays....BUT THEY ARE ALL AMERICANS!!!

And these Men and Women are without a doubt the absolute finest and most experienced and well trained U.S. Military Personal along with members of several U.S. Intel. Groups that exist and compared to other people from other Nations who basically do the same thing both my Team and I and our Support People do....I can HONESTLY SAY....that we are without a doubt THE BEST THERE IS.

And I will tell you...WHY....were are the best there is. It is because there is NOTHING any one of us would not do for any other one of us if possible...and do it without QUESTION....without ARGUMENT...without so much as expressing a need for clarification or a reason.

If asked....any one of us would JUST DO IT.

I tell you this because I can not just tell but KNOW....you do not have anything like this in your life.

The BOND and TRUST....that develops between people who hold the highest level of RESPECT for one another...not because they are ordered to and not because of rank....and I know this to be a fact as well as I HOLD NO RANK....anyone one of us either in the Field or if they could in support....WOULD GIVE THEIR OWN LIFE IN A SECOND....not only to save another member of the total team....but would give their carriers, their money, everything and anything they had or could give IF ASKED TO DO SO....just to help the JOB be accomplished.

You are suffering from a LACK OF FAITH.

This lack of Faith has nothing to do with Religion or a GOD or a Church based Dogma....you lack in FAITH in your FELLOW HUMAN BEING.

I found out a LONG time ago that if I was saying that someone was an IDIOT or a JERK or a MORON or a JOKE....that THE JOKE WAS ACTUALLY ON ME!!!

I will tell you the very MOMENT when a person is a part of GOD....and GOD....does not have to represent anything you or anyone else has been taught in Church or Temple or a Mosque nor can GOD be understood reading about what GOD is out of a BOOK.

The very MOMENT a person becomes part of GOD....is the moment a person forms an unbreakable BOND between themselves and another PERSON, LIVING THING, FOREST, ROCK, WATER FALL, CLOUD....ETC.

That moment is a SPIRITUAL AWAKENING in which a person comes to understand and pledge that if needed or if asked....they would GLADLY GIVE UP ALL THEY HAVE AND ARE FOR A CAUSE OR IDEA OR THING LIVING OR NOT.....THAT IS WORTH SAVING.

Even though you have not been the most gracious of posters....I think you have the potential to be WORTH SAVING....so why don't you show all of us that I have not made a mistake saying this?

AboveAlpha