Russian Flags Raised In Ukraine's South- How Far Will This Go?

you only believe this because RT conforms to our anti-American, Russian Imperialist, paranoid agenda.

Fact: RT is funded by the Kremlin and the Kremlin picks its Chief. Only a fool would find that "objective".

 

CNN was founded by american imperialism ....
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what's your point?

 

you are standing on the edge .In Russia we love to show americans as idiots. You know it's working.)))

 

Through the sixties, I was attended four colleges counting the courses I picked up at City College.
All had their chapter of SDS, Students for a Democratic Society for you youngsters and feriners. (Including Canadians)
By the fourth campus I started to figure it out.
All SDS chapters had their "Leader", a tall handsome guy who was the perpetual undergraduate, always managing to change his majors in time so they couldn't graduate him. Who financed him?
Now this was times so there would be the adoring, iron haired chick who gave credibility and the leader's
Chief Toadie, the shorter, squatter guy who messed with anyone who questioned, "Leader".

I also took part in enough anti Vietnam war demonstrations to witnessed how easily a crowd can be manipulated
to go further, contrary to the law, than they intended when they showed up.

Westerners remain ignorant regarding how much of the Kiev putsch was financed by the Western interests.

There is no legitimacy to the Kiev government ! The fact that the West was so quick to adopt it as "theirs"
really, really stinks of involvement. Those who feel contrary, please include how many votes were cast for the present Kiev government.

This whole mess is courtesy of Western Multi National Corporations with no national loyalties seeking new markets to control.
This is economic aggression that has no basis in "good".
Bravo Putin for standing up to it while we pan it off as Human Rights and Freedoms.

Are there any other fifties who remember when our nation stood on the Lord's side? Before Vietnam.

Find out who is financing the putsch leaders of the putsch and you proved it.
Not Julia though. She is already a Uke Oligarch by questionable means.



Moi

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Some here say that Crimea has acted to join Russia because they can get more money....Some say they joined because they are largely made up of Russian speaking loyalists. Maybe they joined out of fear of the Russian troops sent in to intimidate them.
Whatever the reason, Crimea has acted against international law and that action has been condemned by the UN.
But I wonder, if the US steps up its support for Ukraine, invests in Ukraine, and ships gas and oil, and Europe sends aid and suport as well, will Crimea change their mind and want to go back if Ukrainians are making more money?
One of the things holding Ukrain back from being more prosperous is Russia. Russia has 3 gas pipelines going though Ukraine and that makes them very uneasy. Russia wants Ukraine dependant on them and eventually to join with them.
Putin is devious as he is ruthless. He craves the power that Russia had when they were the USSR.
He is a real clear and present danger. And although I do not hold any hope that Obama will do what it takes to reign in Putin, the next US President will be elected with Putin in mind.

 

Really? Americans have the greatest quality of life in the World. We do not put up with dictators changing the rules to stay in office as Putin has done. Russia lives under tyrany,.they have for most of their history. The Russian people are too stupid or too weak minded to see or do anything about that.

 

Curious then, that Putin didn't dismiss Abby Martin for being openly hostile to Russian actions in Crimea live on air.

 

Pro-Russian crowd forces Right Sector Neo Nazis on their knees and to beg for mercy.

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It does not matter how RT is funded as soon as it provides information. You can make comparisons and watch the videos, showing actual events, interviews taken from local people and politicians. RT is more objective. Well, RT tells us that Taliban is bouncing back and that Americans wasted a lot of taxpayer's money on greedy and inefficient contractors in Afghanistan. False or true? CNN tells us that Obama thinks that mission in Afghanistan was accomplished. False or true? I wish he was true. What is your answer?

 

Well said. by Bashir al-Assad. Arabs have tribal structure of society and they are very much divided sometimes. All born in Syria and want to die in Syria, but why do they kill each other without mercy?

 

Your statement does not support the vast majority of how Russian's view the United States or it's people.

I KNOW because I have been to Russia when it was a part of the Soviet Union and I have been to Russia when it was not....and I have MANY Russian friends.

The Russian's who had to live through the evil of Stalin and the Nuclear Terror of Andropov along with Bread Lines and food shortages that would NEVER be tolerated in the United States....never mind how difficult things were when the Soviet Union was bankrupting itself trying to keep up with the Reagan arms build up.

Facts are there is over 5 MILLION RUSSIAN AMERICAN'S IN THE UNITED STATES....about 1 MILLION Russian American's were born in Russia and the number of Russian American's in 2009 was only a little over 3 Million and it is estimated Russian American's will exist at 10 MILLION by 2020.

As far as exactly WHO ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE....becomes blatantly obvious when one looks at all the different races and religions and nationalities that current American's either are or were or came from or their parents and grandparents and ...so on...came from.

So when you say Russian's love to show American's as being idiots just remember 5 MILLION of those IDIOTS are RUSSIAN!!!

Many Russian's who have come to the U.S. had a VERY hard time getting out of Russia as many are skilled technician's and scientists which caused a great bleed off of skilled professionals from Russia....but many others were just average Russian's hoping for a better life in the United States and they found it.

You talk to ANY Russian American about comparing living in Russia and living in the U.S....and they will tell you loudly....YOU CAN'T COMPARE THE TWO!

If you ask why they will tell you....as several of my current Russian friends have some living in the U.S. and some who came to visit their relatives in the U.S. for a time.

They will tell you....when we got off the plane the first thing that was apparent was how EVERYTHING WAS BRIGHTER. People SMILED at us for no reason other than to smile and be friendly.

We were not used to that as in Russia if a person you don't know is smiling at you they are either just about to mug you or they are setting you up to steal something from you.

But we soon realized in the U.S.....anyone could get...anything.

AboveAlpha

 

Americans were lucky receiving empty (Indians do not count) rich with resources continent and they were free to unleash their greed with full force, more people were coming from those "stupid" countries to provide cheap labor and with "American dream" to get rich quickly, some were lucky, but some perished in the New World. Now, times are changing. China is raising and so does India. Russia has a rich experience with tyranny and democracy and has a greater potential to live happy and in peace.

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We have backward education system and backward health care system. We produce more weaponry and garbage then any other country in the world. We use poor quality merchandise made in China, even American flags are made in China.

 

The mission was accomplished years ago when the Taliban were ousted from power, the terrorist training camps were closed and the terrorist leaders were killed or captured. All else was merely window dressing as you can't oust a regime and then leave nothing in it's place, even if it is the same type of regime you ousted, that is international law.

 

Reality Land, your post is an example of poorly informed American, who has no idea about history, culture and geography of other then USA parts of the world. Crimean people expressed their will. If you know nothing about history, this fact should be enough to drop all doubts.

 

Why Kremlin is not as good as corporations to run a news channel? All depends on what and how they are reporting. What is wrong with Larry King? Use your brains. I would not mind to believe corporate media, but I learned about their lies through my personal experience, watching all kinds of news sources.

 

I can answer that.

The war in Afghanistan was originally planned to accomplish two things.

#1. Send in small numbers of U.S. Special Forces, Rangers and Special Teams to direct U.S. Air Strikes by Lazing Targets and directing B-1B's and B-52H's to conduct large scale Anti-Personal Operations at altitudes too high for SAM's and Shoulder Fired AA Missiles to destroy them.

As well some low level ground following bombing missions were also done.

After a few weeks only about 240 of us existed in Afghanistan and were responsible for directing srtikes that killed over 10,000 of the enemy.

The plan was NEVER to be send in large numbers of ground forces and NEVER were we to do Nation Building...as what happened later.

We were to cause such high casualties upon Al-Qaeda and Taliban Forces that not only would this destroy their ability to conduct operations from Afghanistan but as well make it clear to ANY NATION OR GROUP....that if you help our enemies you will pay a steep price....and this worked as even though the Taliban are resurgent....they were only a Target because they MADE THEMSELVES A TARGET.

#2 Was to kill Bin Laden....and we did that as well.

The number of U.S. Forces KIA were EXTREMELY LOW when the operation was being conducted THE WAY IT WAS PLANNED TO BE CONDUCTED!!!

It was when POLITICS caused there to be a troop buildup and start Nation Building which is NOT or job!!!

Even still....the U.S. Military is a Highly Professional ALL VOLUNTEER FORCE.

More people died slipping in their bathrooms in a few months in the United States then dies in both Afghanistan and Iraq in over a Decade of war.

AboveAlpha

 

People like you are incredibly dangerous and advocate policies that make I, my family and my friends all less safe. I move that Americans should disregard absolutely anything and everything people like you have to say or advocate. People like you would be second class citizens in a more just world.

 

There is only one Kremlin and hundreds of corporations none of which oversee themselves. When there are hundreds of Kremlins and none of them oversee themselves then that will be the same, until then, it is completely different.

 

Bravo! California is most progressive state in USA. Everything new and democratic is coming from California.

 

No one ever said Russia does not have potential...but does it have the WILL?

Putin was the one to cancel the joint Russian/American Siberian Infrastructure and Resource Development Project which was supposed to start 11 years ago exploiting Siberian Oil and Gas and building Highways and Infrastructure.

Putin said Russia could do it on her own.

11 Years later and there is less Natural Gas and Oil flowing our of Siberia now then back then.

AboveAlpha

 

Oh !
For a good time, check out what a Russian who was educated in the USSR and a Post USSR Russian know of
Trotksy.
Poor Leon remains overlooked by both versions of history.
Do you suppose it is habit? A Jewish thing? Why are Russians, similar to the Japanese, learning fractured history?


Moi
History, NOT Herstory

No
They omit their Louis Riel ​

 

Russia killed tens of millions on various occasions to build their country and China hundreds. In other words, both had lands not only rich with resources but also the labor force to exploit them and look how far they are behind.

 

Drew Bedson, I would tell you more, but I do not want to disturb the forum. Let us better continue on Ukraine. However, in Russia, they know that serfdom in Russia ended much sooner then slavery in USA. Slavery plus cheap labor from new waves of immigrants... Immigration is a blood line for American economy. Even now, Mexicans take unwanted jobs, making our life easier...This is a lucky country, so far so good.

 

And after they killed the millions I speak of, fifty million of which were by Stalin and the hundred by Mao. All of it in more recent times than the 18th century who's benefits were brought back to zero and lower by the American Civil war.

Oh, and knowing that your nation's freedom of the press and access to information is one of the lowest on earth according to NGO's and reporters and journalists alike I'm confident you won't be able to tell me more and substantiate any of it thanks.