Officer Wilson recounts struggle with Brown

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  1. Windigo

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    No that is just (*)(*)(*)(*)y reporting yhe headline puts words into the cheifs mouth.

    The cheif said that it wasnt related to the initial contact. Which was about the two of them walking in the middle of tbe street. The officer then recognized that fit the description of the builtin.

    Nice try though. Here is a hint reporters are racebaiting pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    but there is no way you would consider that DJ was telling the truth is there? Do you believe MB charged at DW through a volley of gun fire after being hit already?
     
  3. flounder

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    I am going by what I understand to be facts, the Officer was injured, that's a fact. A Officer that is in a altercation I would assume would go for his gun.
    We also know when a persons adrenalin is up they do not feel pain right away, he was also on drugs according to the autopsy. I think when Brown turned the Officer probably said something like,,,''freeze, hit the ground'' and Mike went forward towards him. There is no way that Oficer would have tried to cuff that man by himself, his back up Officers had not arrived yet.
     
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    Should I take that as no and yes?....and by the way that flounder sure knows his stuff….lol …..I owe you that from the whole Z and M thing.
     
  5. Marine1

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    I pretty much agree with you Flounder. It makes sense.
     
  6. peoshi

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    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-stun-guns-police-killings-20140825-story.html
     
  7. Gatewood

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    Wellllllllllll to be fair about the race-baiting Left they thought that they had a new Trayvon Martin case that this time for sure could not possibly fail to prove once and for all that everyone Right of Center (obviously including all police officers, since they are all considered Right of Center) are evil; that is the White male ones. The neat thing though is that the Left leaped into this without checking out anything whatsoever. They just had a bunch of feeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings and so jumped into it feet first. Notice how the majority of the crowd that intimated "The cop must be a racist and a murderer because he's White and must be Right of Center because he's a cop and ALL cops are EVIL!" have vanished from these Brown versus Wilson threads? That always happen whenever their hyper bigoted assumptions blow up in their faces.
     
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    If OJ was found guilty inner cities would have burned.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    He previously plead guilty to giving false information to police, why is there a way you might believe him? He claimed Brown was shot while running away, we know that to be patently false.
     
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    Disagreed, but then they could have used a good cleaning.
     
  11. superbadbrutha

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    Damn near, especially from a police officer who has a holster that is not made like the one you have.

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    Ah so now he has corrected himself, whatelse does he need to correct himself about.

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    If they don't work what the hell are they carrying them for.

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    Which means he didn't know at the time he told them to get out the street who the hell they were.

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    Please show me the racism in that statement and better yet show me where that statement is untrue.

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    Oh my bad the Chief didn't actually say that, they were just putting words in his mouth and he was saying them. Thxs for the correction.
     
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    Is it a fact, we haven't seen anything that indicates he was injured.

     
  13. Gatewood

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    Or . . . having never in his latter teens encountered anything that his tremendous mass and strength could not overcome and having just flung a clerk across the room with one hand he figured that the risk was worth it to get his hands on Wilson. Lots of scenarios fit the current slate of known facts. But all of the ones surfacing during the grand jury process support the officer's version of events.

    It's highly entertaining to watch a repeat in essence of the Trayvon Martin versus George Zimmerman event gradually turning out to have identical results.
     
  14. superbadbrutha

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    Did that clerk have a gun in his hand?

    Well we will have to wait for the grand jury process to take its course.

    Yep and the outcome will probably be the same, but we are used to seeing that.
     
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    We heard that about zimmerman too. The guy was in the Hospital, even that kid said there was an altercation. I would think a man Mikes size would have left a Lump or a few marks.

     
  16. Bluesguy

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    IOW not impossible.

    More like a clarification of the facts.


    Once again does tazing work in everyone everytime?

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    Who has claimed he did?
     
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    Truth, Justice, and the (U.S/Canadian) American way? Yep, more often than not. Thank goodness.
     
  18. superbadbrutha

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    We saw all the pictures of Zimmerman who was beaten within an inch of his life but only had two scratches to show for it.

    So if you were in a struggle with someone and they reached or pulled out their gun what would you do?


    No personally I have never smoked any, but the folks I have talked to have never said they jumped on someone after smoking a joint.

    I missed that story, could you post it for me.

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    Take truth out of it and you go it.
     
  19. flounder

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    Man couldn't have said that better myself,,good point Draco...I bet Holder thought the same thing. Holder got dragggged into this thing, that's why he instantly goes into the History of other injustices any time he has spoken about it.
     
  20. Otiumdignitate

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    Lol. I see the level of speculation has reached a new level.

    How about , injured, stoned bully rages upon seeing his destroyed bong hand and as Wilson screams to freeze, Brown says , "I'm gonna kill you muthafukka!" ???


    We don't know. And sadly to those yearning to discover Wilson has a KKK tat? I think we are gonna havta go with Wilson's testimony especially if it's corroborated by circumstantial forensic evidence and eye witness testimony.

    Wilson was a decorated officer with no blemishes on his record evidencing a badge-heavy trigger-happy racist.

    You want effective policing ? Cops willing to risk lives to protect the public? You can't dismiss their testimony without justification.
     
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    Holder? OBAMA. Invoked Ferguson before the United Nations!!!!! Interjecting his baseless view. That this incident was racial.

    The rioting and protests surely evidence dysfunction, frustration and anger in the black community. But that feeling is egged on , fomented and exacerbated precisely by such acts by Obama. And Holders.

    They lend cred to the communities' feeling that a shooting of a black man by a white cop is ipso facto racially based. The POTUS and AG should work to de legitimize such blanket assumptions.

    How about the president keeps his beak out as well as Holder and plead with the community to withhold judgement and excoriate the race hustlers for injecting racial intent where there is zero evidence ?

    Why not shine a light on the massive disproportionate crime levels in the black community including the outrageous mortality rate of young black males in this nation at then Amanda of other young black males?

    Actually seek to address the root problems and not the bogus issues or to pretend this is 1968.

    The true victims are the innocent blacks trying to raise children in crime infested ghettoes where police are dis incentivized to mete out law enforcement. And rather that patrol at 10 mph they patrol neighborhoods at 40 mph.
     
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  22. superbadbrutha

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    Yea impossible. There is no way a trained officer is going to allow someone to reach across their body and take their weapon. They are trained on that very scenario, so its not possible.


    I didn't know facts could change




    It must work most of the time, if not they what's the use of having them.

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    You have claimed everything else.
     
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    I know, what else were people going to say that were dead wrong,,,''It aint that bad'', but of course you run right over the fact it's an assault



    There is a HUGE difference between just anybody and a Cop, that's why I said,,,HE is the authority




    I would find it hard to believe my [and others] experiences with Pot are all that different then the people you have spoke too. Even the stores that sell it legally have different names for their Pot, why would that be if it's all the same?

    You and your buddies never heard of Angel Dust?,,,come on..that stuff would make hair stand up on a Bald guy.....it's concentrated TLc or something,,brutal,,and that's just one type.
    You could get the info on the web,,,very powerful



    You missed that? Dont you remember he robbed a deli or something, and then stood outside waiting for the Cops with a knife in his hand? They came, and he started walking toward them, their guns were out, he was told to freeze,,he wouldn't, they shot him.
    I will get it for you if you cant remember,,not a problem

    Here, I got it...
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/us/missouri-police-shooting/

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  24. superbadbrutha

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    I don't know it was an assault, because there are only two people who know what happened and one of them is dead.


    Irrelevant, if you think that person is going to shoot and kill you it doesn't make any difference if they are a cop or not. You are going to struggle to stop them from hurting you.




    Makes sense, so all we are doing is guessing since neither one of us knows what type of pot he was smoking.

    I don't recall his autopsy report claiming that he had PCP in his system.




    Isn't a knife a weapon, my point is that you feel more bold when you have a weapon than when you don't and I do.

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    That's what they said about zimmerman too. The case will move forward dead or not, his hand was by that gun, fact, the Cop went to the Hospital, Fact!!, witnesses recall a struggle, Fact!,,,, and one of them is wearing a Badge. This is where common sense comes in.

    It's why we knew they would find zimmerman innocent as well, common sense. Sure I can say, I'll just wait for the Grand jury, but it is why we debate.




    And maybe that's the difference, I respect Authority, and I never would be fighting a Cop. Had Mike respected that Cop, he'd be alive today. I doubt many would disagree.






    Nope, I explained there are different types, and I explained that no matter, he will be considered under the influence, impaired, and that this is not a good thing for the Brown family.



    I used that as an example of different types of Pot, not that he specifically had PCP. Point being, they will consider him impaired,,,not good.






    I wouldn't feel more bold with a knife, when the other guy has two guns, and two cops......It's the exaggerated state of mind the person is in that would make him rush a Cop with a gun,,it's the irrational thinking that's making him do it, not the knife....

    What did you think of my scenario before,,,,about them both misreading each other?,,,possible?

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