Part 27 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Hypocrisy at its finest. "Its ok when this group of people kills in the name of God because they are my friends but no ok when another group that I don't like kills in the name of God it is evil"

There is little logic in the minds of religious extremists.

 

I see you are still allowed to post lies about others.

 

Why are you making false claims about the Bible.

God did order the killing of children and babies.


Numbers 31 God orders the killing of Midianites including baby boys and pregnant women but to keep virgins girls as slaves.

Why does God kill pregnant women and male babies but let the virgins girls live ?

Deuteronomy 13 - Whole towns of people were to be killed (including babies who were innocent of the crime apostasy)

2 Chronicles 15 Just like ISIS today, the Israelites put to death those who would not submit !

1 Samuel 15 God orders killing of children and babies

God did not order the killing of all babies everywhere. God did order the killing of many babies.

Why do you deny this fact and make false claims about the Bible ?

 

The Bible is very clear the Amalekite were very brutal and were constantly attacking the Israeli. Why must you keep on denying the Bible?

You are making your own Bible story.

Deuteronomy 2:18 -26
Tells a clear story why God instructed the Israelite to take the land of Sihon. Sihon took the land from Moab.
Nothing in the Bible said that Israelite started the war against Sihon.

Deuteronomy 2:30 But Sihon the king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him, for the Lord your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, that he might give him into your hand, as he is this day.

You are the one that do not believe in the Bible. So who is making false claim me who believe in the Bible or you who do not believe in the Bible?

 

The Israeli of ancient times did what all ancient civilization has been doing in fact the Israeli were less brutal than the Amalekite, Egyptian, Greeks, Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians or Romans.

ISIS is present past and future they have always and will always be evil.
Israelite since Abraham they have been more civilized they would lead the way in human modern development in science, philosophy, commerce, education and human rights. There is no comparison between ISIS with ancient and present day Israel.
Why are you making things up you know and everyone know very well ISIS is evil. Israel is not,

Your hypocrisy is you defend the evil and wicked too much.

 

Truth is no lie that is why I am here.

 

Christians are in the forefront in defending babies and the unborn we are Pro Life.
Are you saying babies are evil?

Babies are nor evil.

If it is not okay to kill Hebrew babies then what and how should the Hebrews do to protect themselves?

 

Why don't you believe in the Bible?

God did not order the klilling of children and babies if he did there won't be any people now. Why are you making things up?

Yes as written in the Bible. Numbers 31:1 The Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 “Avenge the people of Israel on the Midianites.

The Bible did not say why.

Not like ISIS. Israel of today is different from Israel thousand of years ago thanks to modernization. ISIS just like the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Hamas, Hezbollah have in the past since the founding of Islam up top today have been committing atrocities against anyone who refused to submit "islam" to their evil ways.

Why can't you differentiate ancient Israel or the OT from ISIS?

God instructed the Israelite tot destroy Amalek correct.

God did not order the destruction of babies of many civilization such as Egypt, Persia, Babylonian, Ishmaelite, Moabite, Assyrians, Philistines, Greeks, Macedonian.

Why do you not believe in the Bible?

 

are babies innocent?

can a baby born into even the most corrupt family turn out good?

did the amalekites have babies?

were these babies killed on your god's order?

the answer to all these questions is of course, yes. bad luck Wren.

meantime, why don't you believe in the bhagavad gita?

 

Yes babies are innocent.

No
Evil parents, evil environment, evil education = evil future

Yes

The Amalekite were ordered to be destroyed by our God.

Wrong not all answers are yes. Try again.

Why do you believe in bhagavad gita? Is this why you are so much against God?

 

The discussion is about what the Bible says and not whether or not I believe the Bible story ?

You keep making false claims about what the Bible says.

King Sihon did not start the war against the Israelites and "show no mercy" by killing Israelite children and babies. It was not King Sihon who invaded Israelite territory ?

It was the Israelites who wanted to pass through Sihon's kingdom. When Sihon refused because God made him refuse, there was a battle and the Israelites won.

The Israelites then slaughtered all the townspeople in Sihon's kingdom.

Why do you make up false stories ?

How do you take land from someone without going to war? Only an idiot would think that Israel could just walk into someone else's country and take their land without a fight.

Sihon would not let them pass. That is true. Where does it say that Sihon was waging war against the Israelites and killing their babies ? This is your made up story.

What is worse is that after defeating Sihon's army the Israelites slaughter all the townspeople. It was the Israelites that did evil.

 

The Amalekite lived in the Negev... The Hebrew Canaanites went after them to kill everyone including their children and livestock.

 

How were the Israelites less brutal than the Amalekites ?

Glad you finally admit that the Israelites intentionally slaughtered and babies as commanded by their God.

Again you make false claims. Where have I defended evil and wicked ? What are you talking about ?

 

We are talking about Israelites. Israelites were not Christians. Why are you changing the topic ?

If babies are not evil then why did God command the Israelites to kill babies ?

Here again you are trying to defend baby killing on the basis that these babies are somehow a threat to the Hebrews.

How were the babies a threat to the Hebrews such that they deserved death ?

 

There are many reasons why I do not believe Bible stories. What does this have to do with you making false claims about what the Bible says.

You also do not believe the Bible apparently as you deny what is in the Bible frequently. You say contradictory things all the time such as:
You claimed that God did not command the killing of babies in the Bible

Then I show you where God orders the killing of babies.

Then you agree that God does order the killing of Babies

Again in 1 Samuel 15 God orders killing of children and babies

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants"

You agree that God in fact does order the killing of babies.

You make false claims about the Bible. What is worse is that you know you are making false claims which makes you a Troll. This is not the first time you have been shown passages from the Bible where God orders the killing of babies.

Why do you continue to say things which you know are untrue ?

So, for the record and so we do not have to go through this again:

Yes or No Does the Bible state that God ordered the killing of babies ?

 

Then the Bible is very clear God is on the side of good not evil.

Do you believe in the Bible? If you don't then are you making false claims about the Bible?

You are making up your are making up Bible stories.

King Sihon refused then God intervened to help the Israelite win while King Sihon's gods failed.

Yes as written in Biblical history.

Why do you keep on discrediting God?

You are making up stories stick to the historicity of the Bible. Sihon took the land from the Moabs and other tribes.

Numbers 21: 23 But Sihon would not let Israel pass through his territory. He mustered his entire army and marched out into the wilderness against Israel. When he reached Jahaz, he fought with Israel. 24Israel, however, put him to the sword and took over his land from the Arnon to the Jabbok, but only as far as the Ammonites, because their border was fortified. 25Israel captured all the cities of the Amorites and occupied them, including Heshbon and all its surrounding settlements. 26Heshbon was the city of Sihon king of the Amorites, who had fought against the former king of Moab and had taken from him all his land as far as the Arnon.

It is no made up story that King Sihon would destroy the Israelite.

Ancient warfare that was how it was every civilization does it others much worse from the Americas, Europe, Asia, Africa or Middle East. The past and the present is totally different. is this why you can only dwell in the ancient times and not in the present? What has ancient wars and atrocities got to do with God of today?
Christianity has been in the forefront ever since Pro Life. Saving children and the unborn.

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The Amalekite have been attacking the Hebrews ever since their Exodus from Egypt.

 

Discussion wise, the Amalekites just won't let up in attacking the Hebrews.

Biblical history is well written the Israelite were instructed by God to destroy the Amalekite.
Now you understand the brutality of ancient warfare back then?

You keep defending the Amalekites don't you?
Based on ancient warfare and civilization how can you blame God for supporting the Hebrews against the Amalekites who are against God and against the Hebrews?
Do you prefer that God support the Amalekite? In fact Biblical history shown us just how the Jews suffer under the Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonian, Persians, Romans, Nazi, and today's threat from Islamist.

 

Biblical ancient Israel is part of Christian history and Christianity.

The Bible did not say specific why God instructed the Amalekites to be destroyed. We can discuss it based on Biblical historicity and other historical manuscript but you would not want that because you only want what is written in the Bible and based on what is in the Bible the Amalekites were punished for their merciless and constant attacks against the Hebrews.

It is either I am defending baby killing or you are using babies as human shield? As a Christian I am Pro Life and I understand the ancient history of that time. Why are you stuck thousand of years back with baby killing does Christian or God still instruct us to kill or to destroy a group of people? No.
Today's society will take away babies and children from evil parents.

Again based on Biblical discussion those Amalekite babies surely do not deserved to be rise like their evil Amalekite adults.

 

No they didn't .. they stayed in the Negev.. and the Israelites went to them.. Read the story.

 

Don't think the Jews would agree with you,

 

Only if you think commanding the killing of babies is being on the side of Good

What false claim did I make ?

God made King Sihon refuse. Why is this justification for killing babies ?

How is stating what God did in the Bible discrediting God ?

It was your made up story that Sihon was the initiator of war against the Israelites. The Bible says some thing completely different.

It was the Israelite military that was trespassing and not the reverse - an act of war. Sihon was defending his territory.

In any case it was God that caused the war to begin with by turning Sihon against the Israelites.

There was never any justification for the Israelites to kill children and babies, the issue that you are so desperate to avoid.

 

You should do. We've told you enough of it.

 

1) What makes the Amalekites more evil than the Israelite.
2) How is being against killing babies "defending the Amalekites".

 

Why difference does it make why God gave instructions to kill babies of the Amalekites and many other nations.

The fact of the matter is that God ordered baby killing.