Part 29 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not condone killing of pregnant women children and babies. It is you that did this.

    What lies ? If you are going to accuse me of lying at least state the lie ?

    Yes I do believe in God. I have never claimed otherwise.

    You claim to be a Christian but Jesus says

    You can claim to be a Christian all you like but that will do you no good. You do not now the will of the father. If you do not now the will of the father then how can you do it.

    You think the will of the father is to kill pregnant women, children, and babies.

    You are the bad fruit. You try to justify killing of pregnant women, children and babies by making twisted arguments, spewing contradiction and hypocrisy rather than speaking the truth.

    We know what happens to the bad fruit.
     
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    The aroma of the burning/cooking animal was pleasing to this god/Yahweh, as it is also to us because this god was actually a man and it stimulated his appetite. He was one of the long-heads that came to Earth in space ships. Looking at him this way explains how a "god" could do all the horrid things told of in the O.T. that only a tyrant of a man could do. This was no loving god.
     
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    Most Zionists are Jews.
     
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    Jesus wasn't around when the church became organized.

    I'm a proud American mix.
     
  5. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you didn't understand it because if you did you wouldn't have found it to be illogical and a morally revolting book.

    Perhaps maybe you should read it again with an open-mind and not a closed biased mind. Then and only then will you thoroughly understand Almighty God the Creator of the universe and everything else and begin to appreciate Him.

    Better start soon, we are not here on God's green earth forever, there will be a day of Judgment for all the non-believers.
     
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    All Zionists are Jews. Not all Jews are Zionists.
     
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    yes God instructed the Israelite to kill the Amalekite babies. No justification is needed to kill their babies because God knows the Amalekite including their babies are evil. Amalekite babies are not like your normal good babies.
    Why do you have to exterminate an entire colony of termites including their babies what have those baby termintes done to deserve to be exterminated can you wait for those baby termites to become adult destructive termites before you exterminate them?

    Thous shall not bare false = do not lie.

    I am sure I know the Bible more than you do that is why I understand God's command to the Israelite to destroy the Amalekite and why we Christians are Pro Life.
     
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    You said you are Pro Choice didn't you? or are you Pro Life?

    Lies that you claim Jesus is bad or kills innocent babies. I don't have to accuse of lying you are doing it to yourself.


    You worship and believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Messiah our savior and do you believe Jesus Christ is God?

    Yes I am a Christian.


    I do not know God's will I do know His message . God's will is to listen and follow His message.

    No killing innocent pregnant women, children, babies, adults are not God's will.
    Killing innocent pregnant women, babies, children, old people, or adults are the will of Satan.


    The truth is fight evil with good.
    You contradict yourself by pretending to be Pro Life and yet you have no problem with indiscriminate killings of babies, pregnant women and children.

    Yes we know what happens to bad fruits it become rotten that is why all the lies and misinformation for the past thousands of years just rot away.
     
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    Without Jesus Christ there will be no Christian church.


    So you are a proud American not German, not Norwegian?
    I am a proud Canadian. Are you a proud American?
     
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    I repeat. You have no room to talk.
     
  11. GraspingforPeace

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    First you say that killing babies is always immoral, and now you're saying that it isn't because the "babies are evil". How can a baby be evil WanRen? What a DISGUSTING viewpoint to call a baby evil when it has NO ABILITY to even THINK about what good and evil is.
     
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    And without Judaism there would be no Jesus or Christianity.
     
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    Mitt, do you or do you not understand that under the system of taxonomic distinction that we use, Homo Sapiens, are considered to be a part of the Great Ape family?
     
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    Hang on for a denial or contortion of what he said. He has more contortion to his posting than a contorted willow tree has to its branches.
     
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    Wait for him to consult Got Questions.
     
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    I see. So God holds men as cheaply as we hold termites. Oh, I forgot. He killed most of mankind with a flood.
     
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    What does my stance on abortion have to do with your justification of baby killing ? Are you looking for others that share your beliefs so you can feel better ?

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    I do not claim this. This is your claim. You are the one who claims that Jesus is "The God of Abraham" and you are the one that has repeatedly tried to justify the actions of this God in ordering the killing of babies.

    Says who ?


    In name only. You are the bad fruit that Jesus speaks of

    You bear false witness against others and you try to justify baby killing.



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    You have no clue about Gods will or his message.

    So you do not believe the Bible when it says that God commanded the Israelites to kill babies ?




    The truth is fight evil with good.
    You contradict yourself by pretending to be Pro Life and yet you have no problem with indiscriminate killings of babies, pregnant women and children.


    Yes we know what happens to bad fruits it become rotten that is why all the lies and misinformation for the past thousands of years just rot away
     
  18. Mitt Ryan

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    Exactly WR! Good post! :salute: Again thanks for your contributions in making this the BEST TREAD!
     
  19. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Oh no! from "air" to "frogs" now?...lol Geez people just can't admit when they're wrong...too funny!

    Here is another fact: There are no frogs and air on the moon...lol
     
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    I have. The only books I have yet to finish are the Major Prophets. I know that those verses are in the Bible, but it's easier to respond to direct quotes than your interpretation of the quotes, right?

    The Bible never refers to Satan as the Lion of Judah. It says that Satan is "like a roaring lion"-1 Peter 5:8. As for the Morning Star, that could easily have been a way to turn the term around on its head by having it refer to Satan instead of Jesus.

    The Bible also refers to Jesus as "the Passover Lamb", but that doesn't mean that he is a literal lamb.

    Even if they were comparing Jesus to Satan, Jesus himself claimed not to be Satan. When he was casting out demons, the Pharisees claimed that he could cast them out because he was the "Prince of Demons", aka Satan. He replied,

    "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."-Matthew 12:25-28

    Jesus often refers to the Father as God. Refer to the Lord's Prayer.
     
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    I'm not assuming anything. He clearly stated himself on par with the other members of the Trinity. For example, the closing words of the Great Commission (Matt. 28:16-20): "Baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

    Also the extremely suggestive, "I and the Father are one."
     
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    So you have 2 examples where something could be interpreted that way you think, actually, most of christianity.
    But dozens or more examples where it is clear Jesus is referring to God as some completely different entity. But you'll hang you hat on 2.
     
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    It would be helpful to see the examples you are talking about. I can't give a clear response unless I have something clear to respond to. Show me the "dozens or more examples".
     
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    What better way for a Canaanite tribe of have nots to invent a history for themselves than to claim vast armies that killed off the other Canaanite tribes?
     
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    If that means that Jesus is God, then it also means that Christians are Jesus, and God. The Bible says that believers are one, and that believers are one with Jesus and Jesus and the Father are one. Why would it only be a metaphysical claim in the final of these, when it isn't in the previous.

    John 17:20-23
    Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

    When he was challenged for claiming that he was God, what was his response? He pointed out that "god" is a title that God had given to others in the past.

    John 10:33-36
    The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

    The people called "gods" in Psalms 82:6 are also called "children of the Most High".
     
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