>>>MOD WARNING<<<Part 33 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

You're only off by about 535: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/number.html

 

Yes, just like the Bible.

 

Yes, for the first time on this forum, I, as an atheist, hereby admit that I do indeed fall short of God's glorious standards! Praise god! Yes, His standards for beating slaves are much higher than my own, I'll admit. I've been beating my slaves the wrong way....I need to be more like god. So please, when you beat your slaves, follow god's advice in the Bible, as He always knows best.
God bless.


When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

 

Sex is a reality that is part of procreation of giving birth that is why God did not just snap his fingers to appear as a fully gown man Jesus Christ. God went through human process of birth from inception to birth no short cuts.

 

There were many mythological gods and goddesses for thousands of years before the coming of Jesus Christ and the very reason why God intervene is to reveal to us the one True God just like how we discover atoms, neutrons, or the God-particle without this discoveries through revelation that we must pursue modern science humanity would still be practicing witchcraft, magic and all sorts of superstition.

 

So people never lie about sex? Mary would have been stoned to death if she had admitted to sex outside marriage in those barbaric days, so to be a Christian you have to think that she wouldn't lie about sex to save her own life! Incredible. She had consensual sex, but lied about it, to save her life and the life of her lover, most likely. Stop believing in fairy tales.

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Jesus was too stupid to introduce any new scientific principles - that's because he was not divine, just a man, and not the son of god born to a virgin.

 

What is there to lie about sex, sex is part of pro creation. Those days were indeed very barbaric that was why God had to intervene to tame the world. And Jesus said "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her". and they walk away, Jesus stood up to protect a prostitute when no one else would. Mary did not lie about carrying the baby Jesus, she told her parents and God help them to understand and Joseph stood up to be Mary's husband.

That is why you should stop believing in fairy tales read about biblical factual history.

Jesus was so great that he gave us intelligence that is why we were able to discover cure for leprosy, tuberculosis, malaria, polio, we learn about the universe, while atheist continue to promote witchcraft, fiction and superstition.

 

What planet do you live on? We atheists aren't the ones with the talking snakes/donkeys/zombies in our book...Christians are. THE BIBLE says to kill witches - Richard Dawkins does not!
Can you tell us that the Bible was wrong to say to kill witches? Can you say the Bible was wrong to even think that "witches" are actually real? Can you?

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....three words that really really really don't belong together.

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Speaking of scientific progress, I, if I had Jesus magical super-powers, would give humanity the cure for cancer, because I care for humanity....would you give us the cure for cancer (w/in the previous 2000 years) if you had that power, WanRen? Seeing how your role model (Jesus) is the most moral and loving person of all time this should be an easy one for you, I'd think? While as a godless atheist with no god to guide me morally, I myself should struggle with this moral question, some would argue.

 

Atheist created Asgard, Mt. Olympus, Valhalla with gods and goddesses, atheist practice sorcery, witchcraft, voodooism and all sorts superstitious crafts that is why they are not from this planet earth. Thousand of years later God will finally intervene and those atheist gods and goddesses were proven to be false and would be classify under myth and fiction. Atheist did not stop there they then decided be gods themselves through political means with the introduction of communism and it too will fail. Richard Dawkins will concentrate his attacks on the church and on Mother Teresa for her's and the church charity works in order to draw attention to himself that too failed in the end Richard Dawkins become unsure of anything.

That is why atheist have no solid evidences to disprove the Bible or Jesus Christ all they have are fiction and myth no history and no science only sorcery.

I am not God and will not want to claim I am that is why I do all I can to help and use my God given gift of intelligence to help the poor, the oppress, the sick, the less fortunate and that is exactly what the church has been doing using God's gift to discover cure for cancer and to make this world a better place that Richard Dawkins and other atheist are so much against with.

As an atheist you are, you will never gain any godly powers that has been proven by your ancestors when they created all sorts of gods and goddesses and profess to be gods having power over life and death.

 

The level of stupid on this thread is too much for my brain. Ow.

 

WarRen quote. Post 759

Atheists certainly did not create Mt Olympus. Ancient Greeks believed in the gods on the mountain. (Even the Bible tells you that) . Neither were Norsemen atheists. They believed in their gods.
And your timescales need some updating. At the time of Jesus Greeks were still believing in Olympic gods, Norsemen were still believing in Valhalla, and both would continue to do so for a long time.

 

These are of late origin.

 

Yom Kippur is well known. What is not so well known is the period between Rosh Hashanah (Jewish New Year) and Yom Kippur, and the week after.

Jews believe that their 'sins' are written in a book in 'heaven' which is opened each year at Rosh Hashanah. The period between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur is spent considering their lives over the past year, and repenting of their behaviour. It also includes making amends with those they have hurt in the year gone. Jesus introduces this into the NT (Matt. 5). They believe this helps to mitigate the effect of their sins. They often also give to charity. I've already explained Yom Kippur. The week after is given to making repentance for any sins they may have forgotten during the Yom Kippur period. That's in brief.

Isaiah.

In the OT there are 2 forms of the singular. 1 is for the individual. The other is for the nation. In the same way Trevorw2539 is an individual and 'his nation' is an individual. When we talk of 'the Nation' we are not talking in the plural, but in the singular. This happens often in the Old Testament and specifically in Isaiah. The christian claims that chapter 53 talks of an individual is fallacious. It would be strange for Isaiah to use the 'Nation' singular throughout the rest of his book, and suddenly change it to an individual person for just one chapter. Of course, he doesn't.

If you know the Hebrew way of imparting things it is often in story style. Jesus is an example of that. He uses parables often to get his point over, simply because his listeners were used to it.

Chapter 53 is in the same vein. It tells of the 'Nation' - singular - as a person. As a nation Israel has been subject to virtually everything spoken of in Chapter 53. I'm not going into everything. You can look at it yourself.

Oh. Someone once said to me about 'piercing' being part of the Roman punishment of Crucifixion and Isaiah would not have known about it.. Crucifixion was centuries old before the Romans used it. Centuries before a Persian general/emperor crucified 5000 men he thought were a threat to him.

Modern scholars are beginning to agree about Isaiah 53 being the Nation of Israel.

I now retire to the bomb shelter.

 

Truth can be very difficult to handle that is why we see too many radicals resorting to violence.

 

They were once atheist and later decided to create their own gods and goddesses to suite their life style so came Asgard, Mt. Olympus or Valhalla. At the time of Jesus they were still worshiping their man made gods and goddesses after Jesus resurrection they started to move away from their fictitious gods and started to accept the real God in Jesus Christ. Atheist continue to exist and they continue to create something else this time it will be a political atheist called communism with the power who lives or die rest on the chairman. Re-known atheist such as Richard Dawkins would later become unsure of anything. One thing that all atheist have in common is they are all against the Christian church for helping the poor, defending the weak and oppress, pursuing modern science and medicine. Just like the pharisees who are so much against Christ, atheist same thing to.

 

That's was my understanding ...... that such concepts came late.

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Sorry.. there have always been gods... Look at Gobekli Tempe. Their temple is around 12,000 years old.

 

But why, of all the religions that exist and have existed, do you accept Christianity? What about Christianity is more realistic than any other religion?

If a UFO lands tomorrow, they probably won't have a Bible . . . .

 

How do you know? They may have had religious beliefs before but changed to believing in the Olympian gods. After all, Greek Christians once believed in many gods. If you look through ancient history gods have been around since the beginning. Can you prove their gods were more fictitious that your god. No-one has ever seen a god.

 

Don't worry, WarRen will be there to make sure they get one. Only I'm not sure whether it will be an authorised edition or the one he seems to be writing.

 

But you, with your magic friend in the sky who's got your back, can disprove bigfoot then, apparently. See how that works?

 

The Gebekli tempe was created by men not by God but by man with their man made gods and goddesses as men started out as atheist and later created their personal religion to suite their ambition and powers. That was why God intervene to reveal to us that men are not gods.

 

Christianity is not just realistic it is real and the reason why I accept and embrace Christianity is because it is real.
If UFO is proven to be real tomorrow they'll disprove to atheist were wrong from the get go that they the UFO are also creation of God and they too worship God.

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Magic is for atheist, big foot, body snatchers, lockness monster, sorcery, witchcraft are all about atheist beliefs.
Science and Bible are real it is one with reality.

 

Science is getting closer in learning about UFO's and the closer they get the more science is getting closer in doing the works of God as God have always wanted men to do to explore to go where no man has ever gone before and to colonize and rule over in every and all discoveries to be fruitful and expand the universe and human kind in the name of the Father the Son and Holy Ghost.

 

All temples, churches and cathedrals are created by men, Einstein.

 

Great, so then with science you can easily prove to us here that the Bible's claim that "angels" exist is actually true. I'll convert to your religion if you can. Ready, go!