>>>MOD WARNING<<<Part 33 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. trevorw2539

    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you want me to prove something that didn't happen, didn't happen. The Pharisees, Jewish leaders, Roman rulers did not try to prove that Jesus was not risen. They simply didn't believe it. They wanted proof that he had. That's what people want from you. They don't believe he did and you can only show a book that is, at the best, unreliable. There is NO proof, only your belief.

    There's a very, very long discussion on the Jewish belief of Resurrection and the effect on Christian belief - but I'm not going into it, don't worry. You wouldn't understand it anyway.
     
  2. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    You have no proof and you just can not say it because the proof is there, Jesus Christ is the proof.
    The Pharisees, the Romans the Jewish leadership in spite of their powers, strength, money and influence they could not disprove Christ. They could not stop Christians from accepting the truth they killed them, took away their homes, feed them to the lions for hundred of years they tried to stump out the truth and it all failed they still could not succeed if they could not succeed I am sure you will never succeed to disprove Christ.


    Jewish belief is all based on false premise and that is why you can't understand or accept the truth you are trap in Jewish fiction and myth.
     
  3. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    So you are a moral person? If so then why so much against and hatred towards Christians?
    Slavery has been abolished hundreds of years ago thanks to Christianity slavery was abolish and atheist reintroduced it this time in political form called communism.
    The Bible is not barbaric it is the only book that provided sanity and civility in a world that was barbaric and savage.

    Abraham Lincoln: In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man's welfare, here and hereafter, are to be found portrayed in it.

    Only atheist believe Big Foot exist. No scientist believe Big Foot is real because no actual evidences of its existence have been discovered. I present that proof to you and if you refuse to accept that then your problem is with the scientist not me. Your inability to disprove God in-spite of its reality as accepted by science and history is your delusional problem that is what the book The Delusional God is about the inability of atheist to accept the truth.
     
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    I love Christians, and want to see the with a better belief system. The person who "hates" is of course god/Jesus, as that psycho (according to John 14:6, Acts 4:12, and others) will send people like Kamalayka to brutal, savage torture, just because Kam thinks differently than that psycho....so obviously not only is god/Jesus hateful and psycho, but is so unfair as to defy description. If I told you I kept 5 people in my basement that I torture, endlessly, for the last 40 years, because they have the gall to dare think differently than me, I'd be certifiably insane - no different than god/Jesus/hell, really, except about 70 BILLION people are hell-bound non-Christians, not just five people.

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    So is slavery morally wrong?
     
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    I have plenty of proof. In fact, it's the same proof you have to know that Zeus and Ahura Mazda don't exist. Neither of us believes in those deities. The only difference between you and me is that I believe in one less deity than you do.

    I'm not sure how Jesus Christ proves anything. The gospels are mythologies. None of the miracles happened. The Resurrection and the Ascension are fantastic tales with no evidence. All we know is that, once upon a time, a nice rabbi named Jesus was crucified. Most likely, Jesus' body was left on the cross just like EVERY SINGLE OTHER CRUCIFIED CRIMINAL. He would have been left for the birds and wild animals to eat. His followers, stricken with grief, invented silly stories about him having been "risen from the dead" and "floating up into the sky."

    Doesn't the Ascension seem odd to you? You honestly believe that Jesus floated into the sky? Where did he go? Is heaven on the moon? The Bible was written at a time when people thought that the sky was a solid dome over the earth. It's understandable to think that Jesus floated "above the sky" if you're an ancient person, but we know better now. The "sky" is actually an endless universe. There is no "Heaven" to physically float to.

    Jesus was a preacher who taught that the world would end during his generation. 2,000 years later, it hasn't happened. It's safe to say that Jesus is a failed prophet.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Before Christ the civilized world under Rome and Greece believe Zeus is real until Christ came to reveal tha
     
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    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever Christ intended to reveal was largely obscured by the writers of the gospels and Rome. Simple really.
     
  8. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    You do not hate Christian? You sure know how to show how you don't hate us and base on the way you love Christians which is to hate us for worshiping and recognizing Jesus Christ is for sure you are not telling the truth that you love Christians.

    Without Jesus Christ slavery will still be in existence.Slavery is wrong that was why Christians were in the forefront in freeing slaves not atheist.
    Atheist have no moral authority to judge us Christians.
    Slavery is morally wrong and God made sure that no slaves in ancient times are unfairly treated God would send His only Son to reveal to us that we are all His sons and daughters no slave, no rich man, poor man, women, children we are all God's children.

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    False, God's revelation was made clear through the Bible.
    Abraham Lincoln: In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man's welfare, here and hereafter, are to be found portrayed in it.
     
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    Oh yeah, I remember the part in the bible where it states slavery is wrong. I think it's one of the commandments too.

    FAIL
     
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    Stop confusing them with the truth!

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    Whoa, whoa, whoa! I'm sure the all-loving, all-caring JESUS would have strongly condemned slavery in the Bible - I'm just sure of it!

    Edit: ok, I'm looking real hard to find Jesus condemning possibly the biggest moral CRIME of all time, and the old texts approved of it, so of course he'd speak out against it if he was a moral teacher like he always was claiming, but I just can't seem to find it. I'll keep looking! I'll also keep looking for Bigfoot, and I'll give you guys an update later today on my progress. Wish me luck!
     
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    Fantastic. I love Christians/humanity more than you do (despite what you think of me), because I'd remove the parts that approve of slavery from my Bible if I was still a Christian. Can you, WanRen keep up with me on that - can you remove the approval of slavery from your Bible, or is "morality" not a priority to you? Please let us know.
    Thanks.
     
  12. WanRen

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    Indeed, atheist FAILED, for slavery is still being practice by atheist around the world and they hate Christians for standing up against slavery.

    Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. (5:3)
    Blessed are those who mourn: for they will be comforted. (5:4)
    Blessed are the meek: for they will inherit the earth. (5:5)
    Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they will be filled. (5:6)
    Blessed are the merciful: for they will be shown mercy. (5:7)
    Blessed are the pure in heart: for they will see God. (5:8)
    Blessed are the peacemakers: for they will be called children of God. (5:9)
    Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (5:10)

    Atheist beatitudes:
    Blessed are the poor in spirit: for they shall remain poor.
    Blessed are those who mourn: for they will rejoice..
    Blessed are the meek: for they will inherit nothing.
    Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: where there is none.
    Blessed are the merciful: no such thing.
    Blessed are the pure in heart: for they will see death.
    Blessed are the peacemakers: for they will be called storm troopers
    Blessed are those who persecute for atheist sake: for theirs is the kingdom of earth.
     
  13. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    And we have no problem with atheist. Christians tolerate atheist, atheist have no tolerance towards Christians.
    Slavery has been defeated thanks to Christians sadly slavery is still being practice by atheist.
    Yes, you can rest assure that the Bible does not approve of slavery.
     
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    Incredible.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    The Bible does not lie unlike atheist books full of fiction, myth, sorcery and delusional opinions lacking in facts.
     
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