>>>MOD WARNING<<<Part 33 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. trevorw2539

    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your reading skills are appalling. I didn't imply gays were safe in North Korea. If you'd read the article I'd provided you will see that.

    I give up.You still haven't got it.

    You have never proved Jesus is the Christ.

    Luke 1:35 is part of one Nativity. We have 2 Nativity stories that contradict each other. Which is right?

    Origen
     
  2. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is simply no point in discussing any of these delusions with a true believer.
     
  3. Grugore

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    How is a belief in God a delusion? There is plenty of evidence for His existence. So, please, enlighten us poor, ignorant savages how our belief in a Creator is delusional.
     
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    It isn't. Only the abomination of hypocrisy is a sin.
     
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    That's funny. The Bible mentions other sins, such as gluttony, murder, theft, idolatry...the list goes on.
     
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    That can Only happen through the abomination of hypocrisy the morals of a god.
     
  7. Grugore

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    Wow! You're out there. Can you back that up with Scripture? I've never heard of the abomination of hypocrisy. Show me where the Bible mentions this?
     
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    Ugh. You're talking in riddles. The God Delusion absolutely obliterates theism. Maybe you're too afraid to read it.

    Still waiting for your proof that Christianity is real, btw.
     
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    Your understanding and concept of history is all distorted.

    I and we never give up on atheist, agnostics, Muslims, or anyone else we are will always be here to share the truth.

    I accept that Jesus Christ has been proven to be God. You have failed to prove otherwise just like the Pharisees have failed to disprove Jesus is Christ so have you.

    Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
     
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    Actually, the book The God Delusion only prove that atheist are delusional to think God or Jesus Christ is not real that is why most prominent atheist would later change their status to agnostics.

    Christianity is real because of Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ that has been proven to be real and later accepted to be real by scientist, historians, archaeologist and world leaders.
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    3 points unanswered and a fourth point unproven. You're doing well.
     
  12. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trevor, I think you're trying to conduct a meaningful conversation with somone who is , as we say in Australia,'not the full quid'.
     
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    Your sad lack of a clue and a Cause, simply means you need to learn more about it.

    How about this hypothetical and alternative; what if, after in the Beginning, they were just being hypocrites? That is how important sublime Truth (value) is.
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know. I've been posting with him for a long time. :smile:
     
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    I asked for a Scriptural reference. You have declined to provide one. That tells me all I need to know.
     
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    The Bible and Jesus Christ has been proven both historically and scientifically even atheist believe God exist that Jesus is real.
    Atheist always turn to God to prove their position or about themselves, without God atheism will be none existence.
    Agnostics are not sure what to believe and yet they contradict themselves to claim to be sure there is no God or that Jesus Christ is not The Christ.
    Atheist and agnostics created the first religion thousands of years ago they introduced fire god, water god, air god, god of war, god or fertility, god of ocean etc. etc. and created all sorts of stories that lack any actual proof that such gods and goddesses really existed all those atheist created gods and goddesses in science and medicine they practice sorcery, voodooism and witchcraft. Their gods and goddesses will later be proven to be just fiction, tales and fables and their sorcery, magic, voodooism and witchcraft to be superstitious and ineffective thanks to Jesus Christ revealing to us the true nature and real God.
    Today,atheist have move away from creating gods and goddesses instead they have shift to creating philosophical and political ideas they try to change and reinterpret history and science to suite their own atheistic ideas. In science they believe the origin of the universe started from chance somehow a spec appeared and that spec later expanded to create an orderly universe living things that are shape orderly according to their own kind. In Biblical history they will have their own Jesus a Jesus that was a mere teacher and ignoring that that Jesus was put to death for claiming to be God or refusing to deny he is God.
    In philosophy atheist claim that Christians are delusional for accepting the historical Jesus Christ.
     
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    None of what you said is true.

    Anyway, where is this proof? I'm still waiting.
     
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    So there is no rape, slavery, killing of gays advocated or endorsed in any way in the Bible then, huh, WanRen? Please tell us.
     
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    Hehe, asking a religious person for "proof".....that cracks me up.

    Don't hold your breath waiting! :)

    Keep up the good work Kam.
     
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    Then they wouldn't be atheists. You've yet to show Jesus was the Christ, and not just a Jewish teacher.

    The rest is just gibberish.
     
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    Do you have any proof that God does not exist?

    Jesus Christ is proof that God exist.
     
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    So far no atheist or agnostic were able to provide any proof that God does not exist all they have demonstrated is that God is real and does exist.
    No historical or scientific evidences that God does not exist, atheist just don't have any proof except for their own personal opinion base on their own personal distortion of history and science.
     
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    That's the thing atheist need God but God does not need atheist.
    Jesus Christ is definitely The Christ because of the Resurrection without the Resurrection then there will be no Christianity no Christ.
    You need to provide proof there was no resurrection. Since 33 AD the Pharisees, Jewish leadership, Roman rulers in spite of their political, social, economic powers and status they could not disproved Jesus Christ resurrection up to this present day modern scientist especially atheist could not disprove the Resurrection.
     
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    Yes there are stories of killings, rape, forgiveness, respect for human life, protection of prostitute, decent and fair treatment of slaves, freedom to all, fight against evil.
    How about atheist do they have any of these or is it all about killing, rape, persecution of Christians and distortion of facts and history?
    So far atheist is all about persecution of Christians.
     
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    I question all religion, including Islam. I'm against immorality, and unscientific thinking, and intellectually inconsistent belief systems, regardless of which religion it is.

    "decent and fair treatment of slaves"......can we agree that the Bible got it wrong that if a person BEATS his slave and the slave DIES as a result of that after more than a couple days, that person should not get punished? Can you agree that the Bible is barbaric?

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    So just prove to us that Bigfoot does not exist (should be easy, since you have a direct connection to an all-powerful "god" who like to help you guys out, via "prayer"), and then I'll agree with you that we atheists are really lacking because we can't prove that "god" doesn't exist. Ready, go!
     
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