Who are they that are in control of every aspect of our lives. From eating, drinking, traveling, healthcare, monetary, anything you do on a daily basis is controlled and monitored. CIA, FBI, FDA, FAA, EPA, is it even possible to name them all? A group or cult of people with the same mindset and or agenda takes the lead position in all these areas, and you now have a one world government, for they are all of one in the same. For a better analogy, think if the KKK, or people with the same mindset as Hitler, take these positions.
And we have answered that - - - Updated - - - Even in Australia? Asia? India? To monitor everyone you would have to have a very very large number of people involved - ever met any of them? Have you ever tried getting more than 3 people to keep a secret?
If you aren't post complete baloney. Go ahead and give us those top scientists names. Or admit what you are posting is fake and you can't even prove it. You stopped trying because you have absolutely ZERO evidence. Nothing. If you are so sure it is flat. Give us the dimensions. Many have given you dimensions of the globe called earth. You have never given 1 shred of any evidence, but some fake 4 hour video everyone is suppose to watch. You can't even give 1 detail of that 4 hour video. This whole thread is a complete fake. And the evidence you present is proof, because you don't have any. Not even from the National Enquirer. If you just want to complain about us asking for proof, just admit you started a troll thread and you continue to troll it.
That didn't answer 1 single thing that was asked. Why don't you give us the dimensions of this massive earth. The distance from the earth to the sun. The dimensions of the earth. Quit making stuff up and trolling.
No one is asking to name them all, that is a troll response. Give 1 name and the credibility of the scientist.
Go on to the NASA website, and search for any space photos that are not CGI. You will be there awhile, because you will not find one photo that has not been tampered with using CGI. If you still choose to call me a liar, that is your choice, you are willingly chosen to be fooled be NASA. They admit they can only fly in earth orbit right now. Well how then did they get to the moon, when right now they cannot get passed the van allen belts with humans onboard? It is easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.---Mark Twain http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...1935B6D9A57A1EE389E21935B6D9A57A1&FORM=VRDGAR
Is that the same for the ESA? http://www.esa.int/ESA How about JAXA? (Japanese Space Agency) http://global.jaxa.jp/ How about the Indian Space Agency? http://www.isro.gov.in/ Chinese National Space Agency? The Russian Space Agency? Are all these different agencies in all these different countries lying? And you are claiming that they are "CGI" - please tell me - what criteria do you use to determine if a photograph is actually CGI? BTW - this is a troll thread yes?
The bible says alot of things which there's no evidence for. Your thread your claim;the burden of proof is yours.
I asked 1 simple request. Give us the name(s) of these top scientists you claim know about the conspiracy to fool all of mankind into thinking the earth is round. We can actually see it's round. You can't give us any names? I have not called you a liar, I said you and this thread is nothing but a troll. You refuse to answer basic questions. If you think you are lying that is on you. You can't explain why one can't see Europe from the East Coast of the USA. For on a flat surface one can see forever with a good telescope. And to see Europe any cheap telescope would work. And you are correct about the Twain quote. This thread is a perfect example.
This is JAXA, it is the earth rise from the moon. Now you tell me, does this look like graphics that are used in Hollywood. Another thing is the earth, is about the same size as the moon appears to be from earth. When in reality the earth should look gigantic from the moon. That is something someone with a brain can tell without any other source or scientist. The earth from the moon would be huge, and not the same size as the moon from the earth. Honestly what do you think? Because supposedly this is the first HD vision of the earth rise from the moon. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...7FE51E96E680BEF991147FE51E96E680B&FORM=VRDGAR Now here is a list of ISRO satellites. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_satellites I did not do them all, but I did a lot of them. I simply browsed images taken by GSAT-6 or whatever the name of the satellites I chose. On every one that I did, I only got images of that satellite and not images taken from it. I did notice some of the ones I chose were for communications. However it is far cheaper and far more reliable to have communication technology based here on earth. ISRO and other space programs cannot do anything without the permission of the FAA. It is the taxpayers of every country that pay for their space programs. It is also the taxpayers who receive absolutely nothing out of it. For instance what purpose do any of the American satellites serve that benefit you. And please do not tell me communications, because your Iphone has nothing to do with space satellites. I know because I installed utilities including communications in the ground or in the air, with a company called Apeiron Utility Construction. Communications is all underground or hanging in the air on telephone poles. They come from what is known as a cell towers, provided by the company, such as Charter, Verizon etc. Inside these cell towers is a vast amount of computer technology. Again this is far cheaper and far more reliable service. So what are the satellites for? And what purpose or good cause is the ISS? It has done nothing for the money it has cost us, absolutely nothing.
Can you seriously not use your own head on why you cannot see Europe from USA on the flat earth map? And for that matter, how do you know you can't? Do you own a telescope that can see for such a massive distance? And for the Mark Twain quote, I have previously stated that indeed it could be me that is being fooled. Again, neither theory can be proved. And for that matter, in my opinion the Earth's shape is still up for grabs. If we ever do get far enough away from the earth to take a picture without having to use CGI, we should see the pillars that God made for the foundation of the Earth. Should we not?
It's not a theory. There is evidence and calculation that earth is round/sphere. Can you seriously not answer the question about seeing Europe? It is your claim the earth is flat, water is at the lowest level. So nothing is in the way to see Europe from USA on a flat Earth. To answer your qustion, NO, I cant use my head on why we can't see Europe from USA, it is why I've asked you 6 or more times. It seems you do not know why either. No we will never see the pillars. They don't exist. Just like the flat earth does NOT exist. Several years ago, I flew from Taiwan to USA west coast. I left at sunrise, got to the west coast, shortly after sunrise. The sun was on the horizon nearly the entire trip back. On a flat earth, that can't happen. Near 16 hours or so. The plane couldn't go as fast as the earth's rotation. Had it been able to, the sun would have remained in the same location.
Satellites take pics for spying. Take images of the atmosphere and are used for weather predictions. Satellites bounce radio/tv waves to go from one part of the earth to another. Can't do that directly on ground as the earth is curved. If the earth was flat, we could bounce radio/tv waves over longer distances than we can now with just antennas. But we need satellites to bounce the signals from USA to China, because the earth is round. And do you not understand anything about perception? Larger objects far away can appear same size as smaller object closer to the viewer.
a) You tube is never a reliable source b) No proof of CGI - just "I don fink so" - show me proof any image is CGI c) your failure to google images is not a fault of other peoples d) How many people are in on this "conspiracy" I have asked this before - and as other members have noted you are not answering - which is why this smells of troll How many people are in on this "conspiracy"? - - - Updated - - - How do I know I cannot see Europe from Australia? Because I have driven more than 10 (*)(*)(*)(*)ing miles and actually passed a horizon and guess what - not (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Europe!!!
What about the hundreds of people who have been far enough away from earth to see it? You seem to think an image created using a camera is "CGI." When you snap a selfie, is that CGI? Pictures and real people seeing earth from a distance capture it's roundness. Unless you think all of those people are in on some big stupid pointless lie?
If there were such pillars, we wouldn't need to go to space to see them. We could just go to the edge of the world and peek over. Except that there is no edge of the world, because it is round. And, with billions of people on the planet, SOMEBODY would have taken a picture of the edge, if it existed. And just what would be holding these pillars up? Let me guess: turtles all the way down.
Nah! It is sitting on a Tuit but it can only be imaged by a similar object that is round That is why there are no pictures - because no-one has got "round tuit" (I am a bad bower making puns )
This question the earth is round or flat is never answered to everybody's satisfaction though there were panels of scientists discussing it over decades and they have arrived at some conclusions. It is really worth discussing but convincing one totally is difficult. People say there is conspiracy on this issue but I think there is no point conspiring it in my opinion. Some people say the same about moon-landing. They say nobody has reached the moon and this is also a conspiracy. And it is really hard to know the truth.
Easy - how many people have to be "in" on the conspiracy to make it work? 10?100? 100,000? 1,000,000? 100,000,000? 1,000,000,000? The more people have to be added to keep a "secret" the less likely the secret will be kept I mean where is the evidence for a flat earth?
I am not saying the earth is round or flat. I am quoting others' opinions. I have no means to prove but all I know are based on others' experiments and observations only.
You have no idea what your talking about. NASA nor any satellite has ever taken a full picture of the Earth. They say that they have the satellites go around snapping photos, and then they piece together the pictures until it all fits. So we have never been high enough to take one full picture of the Earth. You can go on NASA website and find this.
To be honest it would have to be around 50-100 people. But the secret would be easy to keep, because of the reward that comes with it. And that it is power over the Earth. I mean if indeed it is a conspiracy, the people involved are sitting in very high places. You must ask yourself, if the earth is flat or far from a sphere, not only have you been lied to, but stolen from as well. It also pulls people from God, makes them think the universe is so big, there is probably life elsewhere and no God. And a lot of people believe this to be true. As opposed to a flat earth and a firmament, that government's cannot get passed, most definitely shows people and governments of God. And even if it is round, our Father told us he has made the heavens and the earth, and everything therein, so that we are without excuse. So by looking and observing the vast amount of life here on earth, and how every species needs every species to survive, and of course water, which can be found nowhere else in space. Means we not only live God's creation, but can easily see it as well. Why is it some choose to doubt what they see, hear, and feel. A conscience that can be angered, full of hatred or evil, and one that can be righteous, forgiven and full of love. A brain that can dominate the earth in a way that no other species on earth can even dream about, literally. Just our brains and the way in which we can use them, should show people there must be a God. Our scientist tell us they have found the God particle, and people believe it. C'MON MAN! It does not matter what they say, people like Neil deGrasse Tyson or Stephen Hawking, whenever they come out and say they have found something new, people believe it. They don't try to disprove or argue it, they merely hold it as truth. So a scientific deception would be very easy. And with billions if not trillions of dollars to keep that deception, makes even more easy.
Well the earth very well may be round, but that has nothing to do with satellites that don't exist. All of our communications and internet is underground or laying on the ocean floor. They are cables, some are even fiber optic, do you know what that is? They permit transmission over longer distances and at higher bandwidths (data rates) than wire cables. Here is a link to a site that shows the satellites positions in real time around the earth. http://www.gearthblog.com/satellites http://bgr.com/2014/03/06/satellite-maps-image-earth/ Notice how real it looks. And how instead of using one of the satellites out there, they show you this. Why, because there is no satellites in space. We might be able to travel a little into space, but we are blocked by the molten looking glass, which divides the waters above from the waters below.
Do you own a smartphone or go on the internet? Obviously you do....well guess what dude, you are using data provided to your device by satellites in orbit around the Earth. These orbits are either circular or oval trajectories reliant on both Gravity and speed to maintain stability. Once established they can be calculated in such a way as to predict position with great accuracy allowing for exacting and verifiable viability of the technology and usefulness. In order for ANYTHING to obit any other thing in the vacuum of space the thing being orbited cannot be 2 dimensional. These are simple physical facts established long ago by thousands of individuals, mathematics, experimentation and observation. That you cannot seem to fathom this very basic reality paints you in a light that is unflattering to say the least. That you will obviously dispute my commentary in preference of further ignorance is actually disturbing.
