The Future Russia-China Alliance Takes Shape

I simply countered your assertion, that's all. I don't know what it was that I said which gives the impression of pride in criminal activity against women.

 

Russian troops crossed border, Nato says
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30025138

NATO Says Russian Troops Have Entered Ukraine
https://news.vice.com/article/nato-says-russian-troops-have-entered-ukraine

Vehicles, including main battle tanks (MBT), infantry fighting vehicles (IFV) and armored personnel carriers (APC) that were produced in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union are being used in eastern Ukraine. These are vehicles which are not known to be in the Ukrainian government's inventory, Among the vehicles are the BTR-82AM IFV and the T-72B3 MBT which only entered Russian service in the last two years.

How to Identify the T-72B3
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2015/05/28/tankspotting-how-to-identify-the-t-72b3/

the modernized Russian T-72B3 main battle tank is exclusively used by Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and has not ever been in manufactured or service in Ukraine

Reporter, who works on Russian TV, with Russian Troops and T-72B3 fighting against Ukraine:

 

About sosna-u http://survincity.com/2013/02/multi-channel-thermal-imaging-sighting-device/
Tank can be identified only by the serial number on the body and the engine. Ukrainian journalists filmed this number. This is T-72B. Not T-72B3. Everything else is detachable equipment.
NATO released satellite images, which show Russian tanks cross the border ?
bellingcat is rubbish https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Bellingcat

 

Of course, T-72B3 is upgraded T-72(B). It`s operated by Russian Forces only, it was not exported to any country.
Russian T-72B3 are fighting against Ukraine.

Satellite Imagery Exposes Russian Combat Troops Inside Ukraine

https://www.shape.nato.int/new-satellite-imagery-exposes-russian-combat-troops-inside-ukraine

Brigadier General Tak: The satellite images released today provide additional evidence that Russian combat soldiers, equipped with sophisticated heavy weaponry, are operating inside Ukraine’s sovereign territory

 

Yes I can. You think those attacks constitute an enemy that can threaten any state? How large of an army did the Germans need to defeat the French? How many allied troops did it take to conquer just half of Europe?
I mean... Could you join us in reality?

What hasn't really started? You have intel on a massive invasion fleet and army coming from somewhere?
Do you see unicorns flying over your head too Cerb? You might want to lay off the mushrooms and let us that can handle them eat them.

 

Really. Are you personally seen the motor type and serial number of this tank?
I have a better quality pictures.

Compare the quality of images in Syria and Ukraine.

Google maps have a better quality.
Superpower and the most exceptional nation as proof has only information from social networks and a couple of blurred shots. You spend billions of dollars on this?

 

Of course, you, Russians, don't admit the crimes of your country and your leader.

But, there are the facts:

1. Russia violated the Budapest Memorandum.
2. Russia invaded Ukraine by its regular troops, irregular mercs, tanks (T-72B3), MLRSs, anti-aircraft systems (buks, sa-22), resulted in MH17 crash above pro-Russian-controlled territory.
3. Russia occupied part of Ukraine - Crimea.
4. Russia oppresses indigenous Crimean minority.

NATO and European Parliament admitted that, so Russia is faced with counter actions.

European Parliament resolution:

the Russian Federation has illegally annexed Crimea and Sevastopol and therefore violated international law, including the UN Charter, the Helsinki Final Act, the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and the 1997 Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine

targeted abuses have been registered against the Tatar community, the majority of which opposed the Russian takeover and boycotted the so-called referendum on 16 March 2014, particularly through the enforcement of Russia’s vague and overly broad ‘anti-extremist’ legislation to intimidate or silence critics; whereas these abuses include abduction, forced disappearance, violence, torture and extrajudicial killings that the de facto authorities have failed to investigate and prosecute

Crimean Tatar leaders, such as Mustafa Dzhemiliev, a member of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, and Refat Chubarov, the Chairman of the Mejlis, were banned from entering Crimea; whereas they are currently allowed to enter, but under threat of arrest; whereas a Russian court has now issued an arrest warrant for Mustafa Dzhemiliev, who earlier spent 15 years in Soviet prisons for his efforts to allow his nation to return to their native land in Crimea

all religious communities, including Christian churches independent of Moscow, have had restrictions put on their activities; whereas these difficulties are due to the severe restriction of the freedom of association, expropriations, the non-extension of documents, and regular searches conducted in the remaining premises of these religious organisations

Russia has been restricting access to Crimea for the OSCE, the UN, and the Council of Europe, not to mention human rights NGOs and independent journalists; whereas the lack of access makes human rights monitoring and reporting in Crimea very difficult

NATO admitted that there is the Russian-Ukraine conflict (not internal civil one).


Since 2014, in the wake of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, cooperation has been intensified in critical areas. In response to the Russia-Ukraine conflict, NATO has reinforced its support for capability development and capacity building in Ukraine

 

It's not surprising when the US continues to antagonise both nations endlessly. It doesn't concern me much since I expect China and Russia both to remain reasonable and on the defensive anyway, and I can't see my government attempting direct military action against either nation, let alone an alliance between them.

If there's a concern, it's in these nations reacting strongly to continued US provocations.

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Simplistic and dishonest nonsense that ignores historical and modern realities and nuances.

 

1) It is the view of Kiev rebels.
Crimea residents do not think so. It is a fact.

2) Russia is helping residents of Donbass as USA helped the Albanians in Kosovo.
Russia does not bomb Kiev, as the USA bombed Belgrade. This is the difference.

3) It is the view of Kiev rebels.
Crimea residents do not think so. It is a fact.

4) This is not confirmed by facts..




5 ) Russia has been restricting access to Crimea for the OSCE, the UN, and the Council of Europe, ……

here you're just lying to.

Russian Krym is open to all who wish to visit it.

http://www.unian.info/politics/1106...nch-parliamentarians-for-visit-to-crimea.html


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[video=youtube;cHu5rpYf19Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPUJjQiuco[/video]

 

French in Crimea

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[video=youtube;ylH9o1CEYSk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylH9o1CEYSk[/video]

 

Talk with Uncle Sam trolls is the same as talking to deaf and blind.
1. The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances refers to three identical political agreements signed in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to Belarus', Kazakhstan's and Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The Memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.
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Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty and the existing borders.[13]
Refrain from the threat or use of force against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
Seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, "if Belarus/Kazakhstan/Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments.
Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine in order to influence its politics.-US violated this paragraph, when staged a coup.
2. I've already talked about it. Superpower and the most exceptional nation as proof has only information from social networks and a couple of blurred shots. And bellingcat lies.
3. http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/01/russia-says-crimea-deployments-based-on-agreements-with-ukraine http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/declaration.shtml 2. All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development. A referendum on the status of Crimea was held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea as well as by the local government of Sevastopol, both subdivisions of Ukraine. The referendum asked the people of Crimea whether they wanted to join Russia as a federal subject, or if they wanted to restore the 1992 Crimean constitution and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine. The referendum occurred five days after the Crimean government announced the Declaration of Independence of the Republic of Crimea, which followed a parliamentary vote in which 78 out of 100 of Crimea's parliamentarians voted in favour of Crimea seceding from Ukraine. Let me remind you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Kosovo_referendum,_2012
4. This is something new. I want to see proof.
Аbout NATO. They say a lot of nonsense. For example Russia is going to attack the Baltics.

 

Russia invaded Ukraine before the Crimea Voting, so it was not the residents`s choice - but the choice of Russian aggression.
Of course, we can see some people welcomes aggressors - it was in Crimea in 2014 and in Europe i 1939 when some people welcomed Nazi-aggressors.


Russian troops and mercs with Russian tanks, arts, MLRSs dosn`t shelling Kiev because they are stuck in the East of Ukraine - so Russians shoot down civil aircraft (MH17) and shell Ukrainian cities on the East.


If there was freely access to for the OSCE, the UN, and the Council of Europe to Crimea there was not such European Parliament`s Resolution.
Access to occupied Crimea have only some Putin`s friends - among them some precarious European politicians

 

We need proof. Only official sources. UN, OSCE, Dutch Safety Board. We do not need evidence from social networks

 

I've read about the French visiting there and reporting good things about the Crimean annexation, but of course not in the US media. It's our policy to ignore anything positive for Russia in our media, and yes, our ostensibly free media obey that edict. We have the world's best Orwellian system, because our people are convinced that they're free when they're not and that our media are not state-controlled when they are, or perhaps more accurately, they are controlled by the same interests as our establishment politicians/parties are.

 

If this were the case, the President of Ukraine sought to fulfill Minsk agreements. :

.......to hold a referendum in the Donbass under OSCE supervision.

To the residents of Donbas could say a resounding "No !!!" to Russian invaders.
Instead, he shelled residential areas of Donetsk.

 

Yes I have a hatred of the US. Guess what you like it makes no difference to me.

I used to be an admirer of the US as a young fellow brought up with all that WWII co-operation thing & the "marshall plan" idea about rebuilding Europe.

But as an older & wiser man I have studied my history & now know why I hate American policies towards my Country & toward the rest of the World, as opposed to hating individual Americans, which would of course make me a hypocrat as my wife is an American citizen.

"Jealous"? Not really I don't see a hugh amount of difference between people of my own income bracket & people in America with a similar income bracket. "Lazy"? Maybe & do like an easy life. "Stuck up European" Definately not! I hate Europe as a concept. I am an Englishman & proud of that.

 

I'm not going to waste time answering childish questions. A good businessman and politician can always find that Russia could offer him. What I love in Americans is their ability to do business. While European idiots impose sanctions, Americans moved from the seventh to the fifth position in the list of Russia's main economic partner and US companies are increasing their presence in Russian market.

Russia during 20 years after the collapse of the USSR tried to be integrated into the Western system. So if now Russia is compelled to be your enemy, this means either the West is managed by morons who unable to negotiate with Russia, or you want Russia to be your enemy. Do not put your blame on someone else please.

 

Ignorance is not an argument, buddy. As far as I understand Russian air defense systems - S-300 and S-400 shoot by farting gas according to you. Russian submarines are made of plasticine and modern means of Electronic warfare is just the product of propaganda. So explain to me in this case, why NATO's generals pissed when they saw how Russian cruise missile hited targets in Syria from a distance 1,500 kilometers, last year. By the way the Russian 5th gen jet - T-50 is undergoing flight tests now and it will go into service in the army at 2017. This summer was announced the launch of designing of the 6th gen jet which will go into service in the army until 2025. As far as I understand you in your villages of East Europe are already developing 7th gen jet, as you write me such arrogant posts. Don't you?

 

trade? the US doesn't have to ally Russia in order to trade with it. Just answer the question already, it's not a childish question: What could Russia offer the US to make an alliance worthwhile? What can Russia offer the US which the EU cannot? If trade is all there is, the EU is a many times better trade partner than Russia anyhow.

OR it simply means that Russia doesn't want to be friends. And we know why: Russia wants old soviet lands back, old soviet power, and old sphere of influence. It makes some sense for why russia would be hostile. But what reason could the west have to not be friends with russia? we don't want your lands, we just want to trade.

the problem is russia.

 

Well....it's your cancer, this belly full of hate you have for the US....that you live and die with it makes no difference to us.

 

Well....it's your cancer, this belly full of hate you have for the Russia....that you live and die with it makes no difference to us.

 

Oooo what a hate filled poster you are!

 

This is what I am concerned about. Western media & politicians have chosen to be the enemy of Russia. And the only reason I can see why is because Russia has refused to become slaves to Corporatism & have a sense of their own Natioanal identity.

I think there could be some improvements within the Russian state system, but all that pales into insignificance compared to their heroric struggle against the Western forces that want to dominate & destroy Russia. The US & the EU are pushing & pushing Russia & they should not do this.

The Cold war is over; done & should not be revisted. Let Russian develope & we can trade with them on friendly terms.

To keep poking at the Russian bear & they will react & eventually & they will smack the US in the face like they have never experienced in the past.

 

tell the Ukrainians how Russia, is the poor little victim here

 

No the Ukrainians are the victims!!! Of a CIA & EU plot to take over the Country. What The West has found to their dismay is that Russia has fought back & has in a large amount fouled their dirty Western plots.

Actually the only real victim here is yourself & your little brain that has been bought & sold by your own Countries media lies.