Abortion- "It is her body!" But is it?

She forced the baby there by knowingly and willingly enganging in sexual activity. Already explained this.. You are objectively wrong.

Once again, if its braindead due to being in development, and will almost be guaranteed to gain consciousness at a set time period, then yes it is highly illogical to justify murder for that reason.

Your attempted justification of murder is quite disturbing. It makes you no better than an actual murderer.

 

I am joined by virtually the entire civilized world. Really almost NO country considers it a person at conception and has NO exceptions for abortion. The rest of the world has figured this out already.....hopefully you will get there some day. LOL

 

Crcata is right. The man and the woman both knew what they got themselves into when they decided to have intercourse. Only in modern society is sex about hedonistic pleasure. In its true meaning, sex is only about reproduction. Put a seed into the soil and water it and you will get a plant. Have your dogs to breed and you will have puppies. Every human is the result of a pregnancy.

High abortion rates is mostly a result of coward-ish and selfish men.

Then she should use protection or abstain.

Abortion is never an easy thing for either of the genders. Ask any couple who've undergone it.

So it is justified to shoot a woman who is in coma? Or a severely mentally damaged woman? Afterall., she is brain dead!

 

You do not seem to understand brain death. Coma is not it and the mental damage has to meet a very specific criteria. And we kill those people every day by removing them from life support which is what a abortion does to a fetus.

 

How is it the woman's fault?

Not as silly and nonsensical as calling something murder that isn't especially when you have NOTHING to back up your OPINION.

I'm not surprised at the amount of posters who think an opinion is a fact

 

There is not yet any research that proves the true status of a fetus' brain. Some studies claim a fetus can feel pain, but it is debateble.

 

Then the founders should've wrote that into the Constitution. But they were SMART enough to know that religion shouldn't rule the masses through the Constitution....

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Stung didn't it .....No, it's not all about sex, your total and complete lack of knowledge of what drives rapists is noted.

 

US' Founding Fathers had tons of awesome ideas. Quite frankly most of their ideas have been broken and in midern America there is not much that corresponds with the Constitution.

Anyways, here we discuss abortion as such and not "abortion in America" so "but the Constitution" is not an argument.

 

No son a EEG is a very non invasive procedure that LOTS of pregnant women get. We know for CERTAIN the fetus is brain dead until week 24 to 27

 

It is a fact that the aborted fetus would have developed into a human. We have all been a fetus once. So, let us not try to hide that very clear fact- Abortion is the ending of what will become a human life. Correct?

 

And you cannot seem to comprehend the difference between a baby in the making and breath death....lolol

 

It MAY become a human life. A lot do not make it. It is possible a brain dead patient could recover too. But we set the standard at brain death so the logic is consistent.

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I certainly know its not in a coma. LOL

 

Its not the womens fault she was raped but certainly doesn't mean the child deserves to die for the extremely small chance she could die.

My opinion is based on reason and logic, and therefore objective. You can call it opinion all you want but it is none the less objective truth.

 

And the cancer may kill the patient so why not kill them on the spot?

 

Because they are not brain dead and that is where we set the standard

 

No its not in a coma, its in development. Its life. And you are promoting murder based on the idea that its brain dead, while ignoring the obvious...it only last 9 months then lives for upwards of 80 years in most cases.

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Brain death is not the standard for babies. They are in development. You have to be able to comprehend the difference lol. You are objectively wrong.

 

But while it is brain dead it can be flushed for any reason at all.

 

Moving the goal posts......The Constitution, when referring to rights, addresses BORN persons....you may ignore the Constitution, most don't.

But OK, Canada has no abortion restrictions and their abortion rate is slightly lower than ours.

 

Brain death is the standard set for ALL humans....even REAL babies. We are always in development son

 

Except its not brain dead, its in development. And is to gain consciousness in approximately 9 months, arguable less.

You have 0 logic backing you up. YOu are arguing for the sake of argument.

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They are life, regardless of the title "babies". And your illogical belief of their mental status does not justify destroying life.

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Strawman.

Doesn't matter who or who doesnt restrict it. Its still completely illogical and objectively murder.

 

Choosing abortion isn't based on the small risk of death.

YOU want the woman to give up her body for 9 months, suffer the physical and financial damage of pregnancy, be punished for being raped.....because someone else committed a crime....if that isn't illogical nothing is.....it is also blatant misogyny...

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Only in your opinion which you fail to notice doesn't count

 

It is brain dead and we are all in development. All of us. A brain dead patient is technically alive but we kill them every day

 

Yes, because that is what she brought on her self by engaging in sexual activity. IN doing so she now has the obligation to endure. This is objective truth. YOur logic simply doesnt hold up to reality.

In the case of rape, yes it is still her obligation to endure because the killing of life is objectively wrong and illogical.

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To which you still cant make the distinction. The lack of critical thinking is astounding.

A baby in development with a predictable 9 month period before gaining consciousness vs a person who has been injured and cannot be reasonably predicted.

More false equivalency. lol. YOu are objectively wrong.

 

It is quite undisputable that saving a potential life is always more preferable than terminating it, is it not? There are millions of couples who are fertile but do not want a child and there are millions of couples who are infertile who want a child. It is very clear where the goals meet; adoption is better than abortion.

Generally speaking though, a couple in a stable relationship is less likely to have an abortion, so most abortions are performed on single women or women in unstable relationships. Of course you can never force someone to go through a pregnancy against their will, but in the end I think this will make the woman/couple more happy than having an abortion will.

 

It is reassuring to know that opinion of the individual does not define law or physically effect the lives of strangers.