Abortion- "It is her body!" But is it?

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  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    What winning argument, that in your opinion a woman consenting to sex has consented to pregnancy, an opinion based on your own bias and as such cannot be an objective truth .. perhaps you should learn what objective truth is.

    I have defeated your argument quite easily, your wrong perception (bias) that consenting to sex = consenting to pregnancy, that is subjective not objective, and if that is subjective (which it is) then logically everything that follows it is also subjective.
     
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    Yet in another part of the Bible the fetus is treated like property as in the case of the pregnant woman injured in a fight who later miscarries.
     
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    ITs an opinion based on reason and logic and therefore objective fact. An argument you cannot defeat. You just are a murderer. I get it.
     
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    You lost this one son. Better luck next time
     
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    Im aware of that. But it should be. As I have objectively proved.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Every single reliable study shows that comprehensive sex education reduces unwanted pregnancies and by default elective abortions .. please don't confuse the poor excuse for sex ed in the US as comprehensive sex education .. it isn't.

    So you want to remove the ability to stop pregnancies from ever happening to those who can ill afford them, and stop them from other methods to remove the pregnancy and on top of that increase the welfare tax burden in the process.

    BTW: The cost of the state providing IUD contraceptives free is less in the long term that providing condoms and certainly a lot less than providing 18 years of support.

    In what is the state interfering in by giving comprehensive sex education and free at source contraception of all types?
     
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    Im sure you really feel that way.

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    Sorry you lack the critical thinking to understand
     
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    It is clear you are a member of the standard Pro-Life jester squad and are to be treated as such.
     
  9. Crcata

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    I objectively won, seeing as I gave an argument based on reason and logic, that you could not defeat, and relied on semantics to "skirt around" the issue instead of attacking it head on.

    You support murder, I get it. Atleast we all know it now.
     
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    Nope sorry. Lol
     
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    Im am pro logic. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for many here. Including yourself, seeing as I had to walk you through the most basic of reasonings.

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    Your denial doesn't disprove the objective truth.
     
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    Me and the entire civilized world. Lol
     
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    Have A Nice Day:smile:
     
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    No, just the uneducated and misinformed portion of it.

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    You as well.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Wrong, an opinion always has a element of bias ergo it cannot be an objective truth, and there is no reason or logic in your opinion .. it all stems from a premise that is flawed at it's core. As far as we are aware there are no objective truths, even 1 + 1 = 2 is not an objective truth because it is reliant on the assumption that base 10 is being used ie bias.

    What's really funny is you harp on about objective truth (even though you have shown you have no idea what objective truth is) and then attempt to project a subjective truth purely for it's perceived emotional impact.
     
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    An opinon based on logic and reason, coming to the only logical and reasonable conclusion is an objective truth.

    You are objectively wrong. Despite your protests.
     
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    You mean almost all of it? Lol
     
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    Not even close, although I am sure you feel that way lol. The unwise always feel that everyone is on their side. They couldnt possibly imagine it any other way.
     
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    I live in Sweden and underwent public sex ed in grades 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 at three different schools mind you and it sucked as hard in every grade and every class. Always the same nervous and totally awkward older teacher trying to tell a bunch of unserious, uncomfortable and gigglypre-teens/teens whata vagina respective penis is and what different types of sex and protection there is. I doubt this helped anyone in any way whatsoever.

    Applying simple praexeology, sucha society would give people more incentives to take responsibility over their lives and bodies. :nod:

    In what way is it free?

    The state should give f-k all about our bodies and bedrooms!
     
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    I still haven't seen one country that agrees with you. Oh wait.....Vatican city. Lol
     
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    Complete and utterly wrong, sex has been, since records began, more than just a process to propagate .. it is only under the influence of religion that sex for pleasure was turned into some sort of "dirty little sin" .. thankfully that ideology is going the way of the dodo.

    In its true meaning sex is sex it has no bolt on conditions. It is actually more unnatural to abstain from sex than it is to indulge.

    and this is relevant how?
     
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    The amount of countries that do or do not have no bearing on logic and reason, as I have already addressed.

    Another strawman lol.
     
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    I again accept your defeat. Lol
     
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    And I accept that you have no argument other than strawmen, set up for defeat before even being said, and therefore your surrender.

    You have been proven objectively incorrect.

    lol
     
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    Just like killing in self-defence is ending an already existing human life, seems you have more invested in potential humans than you do in existing ones.
     
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