James Comey Live

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  1. Ddyad

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    They have been firing dud rounds at Trump since he started his campaign. They have been running on empty for months. Some of the smarter MSM attack dogs are now turning tail.

    "The assumption of the critics of the president, of his pursuers, you might say, is that somewhere along the line in the last year is the president had something to do with colluding with the Russians … to affect the election in some way," Matthews said on MSNBC, following the testimony.

    "And yet what came apart this morning was that theory," Matthews said, listing two reasons why. First, he said Comey revealed that "Flynn wasn't central to the Russian investigation," and secondly, he said that kills the idea that Flynn might have been in a position to testify against Trump.

    "And if that's not the case, where's the there-there?" Matthews said.

    In his testimony, Comey confirmed media reports that Trump had asked him if he could drop the FBI investigation into Flynn and that the president had asked for his "loyalty." But Comey also asserted that he had told Trump that he was not personally under any investigation and that the president had encouraged the Russia investigation, even if it implicated any of his associates.” Chris Matthews: Trump-Russia collusion theory 'came apart' with Comey testimony, By Eddie Scarry, Thursday, June 08, 2017.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...me-apart-with-comey-testimony/article/2625372
     
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    Thanks! I find the summation along with about six witnesses who work in the intelligence department with Comey corroborating his memos, to be pretty strong evidence.

    Or do you have a rebuttal to counter that of Comey's we need to hear about??
     
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    Careful -
    "no votes were changed" - referred to the voting machines themselves. What was the objective of the Russian effort was the Hacking of the DNC, releasing emails to hurt the Hillary, having Russian "Bots" spread false news reports to hurt Hillary, etc - Votes were changed by persuading voters based on false information about Hillary - how many, we don't know.
    The is no existing evidence that Trump himself colluded with the Russians -
    1) The investigation isn't over
    2) There is LOTS of evidence that points to collusion by people very involved with the Trump campaign - Manafort, Carter Page, Kushner, Flynn, and others - again, the fat lady hasn't sung - yet.
     
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    The simple truth is it doesn't matter how Comey felt. Did Trump tell him to stop the investigation? No he didn't, at best it can be considered ambiguous. Sorry Russorist Comey's another swing and a miss.

    But then the name of the game for the left is really subversion not truth. Trump and his team should stop talking about Russia and move on. He won't but that's what he should do.
     
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    The iran deal is one of the worst in US history

    In less than 10 years some of the craziest people on the planet will have nuclear weapons thanks to obama and and iranian mole named balerie jarrett
     
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    There is no evidence that the russians hacked the dnc

    No proof whatsoever.
     
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    Can you support this claim without resorting to a fake news source?
     
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    Your election map pretty well mimics the US as seen from space at night - the areas that Trump won are dark (symbolic?) the areas that Hillary won, where there is civilization, are bright with light.
     
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    Might explain the committee being so eager to interview everyone Comey consulted with. Hard to imagine that groups consensus was to withhold evidence, abandon protocol, fail to report, and leak to the New York Times. The incompetence can't run that deep. And of course they can only Confirm what Comey alleged.
     
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    To begin with; making the US great again. Now back to my question, what lies.
     
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    Our security services say the Russians did it. Trump says a fat guy in his underwear did - I believe the security agencies.
     
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    When did the US stop being great?
    January 20, 2017.
     
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    The MSM and the clandestine spy agencies have colluded first to rig the election and then to remove Trump from office based on unsupported nonsense.

    “Now we have this sanctions story, which presents a new conundrum. It appears that a large segment of the press is biting hard on the core allegations of electoral interference emanating from the Obama administration.

    Did the Russians do it? Very possibly, in which case it should be reported to the max. But the press right now is flying blind. Plowing ahead with credulous accounts is problematic because so many different feasible scenarios are in play.” ROLLING STONE, Something About This Russia Story Stinks Nearly a decade and a half after the Iraq-WMD faceplant, the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment, By Matt Taibbi, 12/30/16.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439

    Smells like treason to me.
     
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    Enjoy.
     
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    I am exposed to many of the lib lies told about trump but I limit myself only the ones that don't make me throw up.

    Your side has overplayed your hand and burned every bridge you once had to objective debate.

    We just arent taking you seriously anymore
     
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    He's sticking by all of those promise. Remember, he still has 7 and a half years left. So why don't we revisit this in 2024.
     
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    Things that may harm the corrupt washington establishment and their liberal powerbase

    But ordinary Americans in the real world will benefit from the changes trump is advocating
     
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    Our security services tried to rig the election for Clinton, now they are trying to remove Trump from office by colluding with the MSM publish Fake News. Fake News that they are now running away from - for good reason.

    “What makes all of this most significant is that officials like Clapper and Morell are trained disinformation agents; Clapper in particular has proven he will lie to advance his interests. Yet even with all the incentive to do so, they are refusing to claim there is evidence of such collusion; in fact, they are expressly urging people to stop thinking it exists. As even the law recognizes, statements that otherwise lack credibility become more believable when they are ones made “against interest.” THE INTERCEPT, Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion, Glenn Greenwald, March 16 2017.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/03/16...-to-expect-evidence-of-trumprussia-collusion/

    Watching so much of what passes for the Left these days give a treason pass to these spy agencies is astonishing. It will probably end very badly for any official or journalist actively involved.
     
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    They are guessiing or lying out of their ass.

    The anti trump leaks are coming from those "loyal Americams" in the deep state intelligence agencies

    So starting with comey we know some of them are neither loyal or honest
     
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    Now that we know the entire Russia collusion meme was part of an effort to first rig the election and then remove Trump from office Sessions should crank up a grand jury and another special prosecutor to investigate everyone involved for treason.

    "The assumption of the critics of the president, of his pursuers, you might say, is that somewhere along the line in the last year is the president had something to do with colluding with the Russians … to affect the election in some way," Matthews said on MSNBC, following the testimony.

    "And yet what came apart this morning was that theory," Matthews said, listing two reasons why. First, he said Comey revealed that "Flynn wasn't central to the Russian investigation," and secondly, he said that kills the idea that Flynn might have been in a position to testify against Trump.

    "And if that's not the case, where's the there-there?" Matthews said.

    In his testimony, Comey confirmed media reports that Trump had asked him if he could drop the FBI investigation into Flynn and that the president had asked for his "loyalty." But Comey also asserted that he had told Trump that he was not personally under any investigation and that the president had encouraged the Russia investigation, even if it implicated any of his associates.” Chris Matthews: Trump-Russia collusion theory 'came apart' with Comey testimony, By Eddie Scarry, Thursday, June 08, 2017.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...me-apart-with-comey-testimony/article/2625372

    That is capitulation.

    So does Sessions have enough sense to turn the treason gun around on Trump's deadly enemies?
     
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    In fact, we now know they are felons.

    “In the spectrum of crimes involving the leaking of classified information, publicly revealing the contents of SIGINT — signals intelligence — is one of the most serious felonies. Journalists (and all other nongovernmental citizens) can be prosecuted under federal law for disclosing classified information only under the narrowest circumstances; reflecting how serious SIGINT is considered to be, one of those circumstances includes leaking the contents of intercepted communications, as defined this way by 18 § 798 of the U.S. Code:

    Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates … or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes … any classified information … obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”, THE INTERCEPT, The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies, By, Glenn Greenwald, February 14 2017.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14...mitted-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/

    And, at last, we have 2 names - Reality Winner, and James Comey. It's a a good start.
     
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    So rural America is now considered uncivilized?

    What evidence do you have for this, except lights from space.
     
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    Whole lotta apologism and not one single lie that i posted was refuted. You fail.
     
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    A DNC official leaked the DNC email. It was made public in December.

    “'Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,' Murray said. 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.'

    He said the leakers were motivated by 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.’”

    “’I don't understand why the CIA would say the information came from Russian hackers when they must know that isn't true,' he said. 'Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that.’”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...termediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html
     
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