James Comey Live

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  1. Mac-7

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    I understand

    The CIA was led by an anti trump leftist

    Liberals like clapper put the leftist agenda ahead of the country
     
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    "Being Great" is a relative term, it depends on what you're talking about and who you're talking to. According to this Pew report it was great from 1970 to just prior to 9/11, then it rebounded again until just before the housing bubble crashed in 2008, and it has been downhill ever since. But that's just on an economic standpoint. If you are talking about the family unit and cost of living it was great from 1950 to 1970. If you're talking about peaceful (i.e. minimal wars) then you are talking about between the US civil war in 1865 to 1965 (just prior to our alliance with Israel). If you are talking about education (like math and science) we've been falling off the radar for years (some say decades). If you're talking about in terms of manufacturing, agriculture has been dropping steadily since 1840 and industry has been dropping since 1950. USD held the strongest value in the early 1980s measure against the past 43 years of history, but inflation has been shrinking the dollar since 1913. We educate less, pay less in salaries, spend more cost of living, produce less, export less, and import more. And what have we gained, we for starters the US prison population has been sky-rocketing from 1974 -2006. No other nation on Earth can compete with our prison population. We dumbed-down education to increase graduation rates, but the truth is graduates are earning less today than graduates of yesterday.

    I can still remember what the best years were in my life-time, when the ponds and lakes froze over in the winter so we could ice-skate on them, when a car cost $9,000 brand new and gasoline prices at the pump were a $1.09. I remember when there were free public water fountains and pay phones on ever corner. I remember when it was safe to give every kid a toy gun without worrying about some scared cop blowing them away before their tenth birthday. I remember when music was still good and everyone had a record player, an 8-track player, a tape player, and a CD player. I remember public television. I remember when kids actually could go outside to play without having to be supervised. I remember the years before the crack cocaine epidemic followed by the AIDs/HIV epidemic. I remember when a family of four could survive on a single income (without government assistance). I remember when people could live to be 90+ years old without feeling like they were a financial burden on their children and grandchildren. All of that existed and faded off in my life-time. We've been in a death spiral for the past 40 years, so I have no idea what you think was so great up until January 20th, 2017.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    Yes I remember that, that's why I voted for Bernie (he was the most honest person running). But there's a difference between wanting to do something and actually achieving it (particularly in the first five months in office).
     
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    I find the disingenuous claims by the Right to be so remarkably inaccurate based on the fact "you all were not in the room". So, how can you say Trump "didn't tell Comey to stop the investigation"? Lol! That's just trying to be willfully stupid.

    On the other hand, we have Comey, who "was" in the room with Trump, "ALONE", who took it as a directive to lay off the investigation in his own words. And yet, you, Mr. Expert, act as if you were there. Lol! What a joke.
     
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    That does not constitute a counter argument. As of today, Iran is still complying to the deal. You will need to explain exactly how this "deal is the worst in U.S. history" to be credible.

    Another sentence that says absolutely nothing about the Iran deal.
     
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    How exactly?
     
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    It's called reasonable doubt. Perhaps you've heard of it. Like I said even a novice like me can make the case for reasonable doubt.

    Then there's always the Wookie defense.
     
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    Are you even reading what I replied or are you just sitting there contently stubborn in you delusional bubble?
     
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    Except you didn't. You stated it as fact. Now you are changing your story to "reasonable doubt" . Lol! You are too easy boss.
     
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    Comey said Trump did not direct him with his words. Watch the video. So we're left with Comey's feelings and speculation. Which isn't much and leaves plenty of room for reasonable doubt. It's just to easy.

    But let's not forget this is about subverting the Trump administration not the truth.
     
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    Reasonable doubt trumps speculation in a court of law.
     
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    He doesn't have to. Trumps words of "hope" and then asking Comey three times about his job on three different meetings were all Comey needed to conclude that the dots connected perfectly between blackmail and job.
    Trump's actions later confirm Comey's interpretation. When Trump told everyone to leave the room to talk to Comey in private and then realized Comey wasn't going to be his boy, Trump fired him. That confirms Comey's interpretation as to what Trump's motive were way back in January.

    It's like Comey said, there's nothing "fuzzy" here.

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the truth has already revealed itself. Trump's tweets and his own mouth on video tell us everything we need to know. Trump is a walking gold mine for the truth, even though he lies every day. He's just so easy a victim to catch in his own lies. It's really been very simple. Even when he was a candidate. Heck, even before that.
     
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    If a witness interprets it in a different way, and that witness was the only one in the room, with the one giving the directive, I find it very unlikely, considering the other corroborating evidence which is mounted on top of the initial evidence that I already mentioned, the combined evidence would produce a very nice fitting case for obstruction.
     
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    Again with connecting dots, meaning interpretation and speculation.

    Subversion is all this is about.
     
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    Dream on boss. This was about truth, not power. And the truth revealed itself through Comey.
     
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    UH OH: Did James Comey’s Document Leaks Violate The FBI Employment Agreement?

    By his own account, it seems that Comey may not have followed the agency’s employee agreement, which places numerous restrictions on the use of information or documents acquired during an individual’s employment by the FBI. Paragraphs 2, 3, and 4 of the FBI employment agreement appear to cover Comey’s distribution of content he says he created on government property in his capacity as a government official. . . . so if Comey followed protocol and surrendered all government property, including the memos he produced in his capacity as an FBI employee, it would have been impossible for him to provide the memos to his friend. The fact that he was able to provide hard copies of the memos to both his friend and special counsel Robert Mueller suggests that Comey did not surrender them to authorities as required by the FBI employment agreement.”
     
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    LOL!! He's lucky if he has 7 months left by the way things are going.
     
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    No this is about subversion.
     
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    If a witness has personal interests in testimony they are giving then that witness in less credible.
     
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    Keep dreaming, that's the only life-preserver you have left.
     
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    After doing some research it appears Ohio has predicted the winner of almost every election we have had in the last several decades. That is interesting.

    The EC is used in the election so everyone has a voice and not just the giant liberal cities. It is fair. 30 of the 50 states voted for Trump so majority wins. Iowa should have just as much of a say as California but if you take away the EC Iowa will never matter and have no say. Big cities have many votes and thus would control the election without the EC in place. The radical left would win every time. That's not fair.
     
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    The deal does not stop iran from working on its nuclear proram execpt that they can;t actually build a complete bomb ro 10 years - mine now I suppose.

    And obama rewarded the mullahs with billions of dollars to fund their nuclear and,ballistic missle program with

    It wont be long before the gulf faces the same nuclear blackmail by a radical regime that we have in north korea and that is the legacy of obama
     

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