Who's Identity Politics

A common montra, of late, from conservatives has been some silliness about the Democratic Party being all about identity politics. What a turn of Orwellian rhetoric. Seems to me that the Democrats, and liberals in general, have been striving for a more inclusive society, where differences don't divide. The Democratic Party has been striving to have medical services available to everyone, regardless of identity.

No the identity politics are entirely on the Republican side. Listen to enough Republican voters talk and one gets the idea that only one identity counts.

 

I think you might have the wrong idea about what 'identity politics' is and suggest you google it.

 

The definition is the tendency for persons of a particular race, religion, social background, and the like, to form exclusive political associations. How does that not fit the Republican white-supremacist mindset?

 

Your problem is that you know so darned much that just isnt so.

Since you brought up the subject of race, lets discuss race in the context of exclusive political associations.

Whites vote Republican somewhere in the neighborhood of a 55-45 split. By all accounts, that is a pretty even distribution. If you take any random white person, you would have very little success predicting how they vote based on their race. Using race to predict their vote would be slightly better than a coin flip.

African Americans vote Democrat at a 90% plus clip. By all accounts, that is an uneven distribution. If you take any random African American, you would have a great deal of success predicting how they vote based on their race. Using race to predict their vote would give you the right answer over 90% of the time.

Which of the above examples better fits the definition of having a tendency for persons of a particular race to form exclusive political associations?

 

As the other poster said, google Democrats and Identity Politics. Your party likes to pigeonhole people into groups instead of realizing that people are individuals with their own opinions and ideas. For example, if a Black dares to stray away from your party because he is an individual with his own mind, your party calls him an Uncle Tom. In your party there is no room to be an individual. It is all group think as if you're brainwashed. That is why freedom of speech is so foreign to Democrats. You must be in their group and do as you are told or you will meet their wrath. Look at college campuses, Libs do not want to hear anything that strays from their ideology. That is how they keep people in tow. Shut down opposing opinions because we are afraid you will leave us. Democrats are leaving the party. If my father was still alive, he would be ashamed at what has happened to it. It has been taken over by the insane.

 

safe spaces are not inclusive.

 

Like I've always said. The left is obsessed with race/sex/religion. It don't take long to figure this out. Read their post.

Leftist be like... Isn't time for a woman, Mexican, Jewish president?

 

If an association is exclusive that means it excludes those it does not want. If you ask those blacks why they vote Democratic, you'll discover that it has a lot to do with the racist, thus exclusive attitudes of many Republicans. In other words, blacks vote for Democrats because Republicans have a long reputation of being jerks to blacks and other minorities.

 

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want to know one of the primary differences between liberals and conservatives. Liberals dislike conservatives because of what conservatives say and do. Conservatives dislike liberals because of what conservatives delude themselves into thinking liberals say and do.

 

If whites vote 55% Republican, and blacks vote 90% Democrat, and the definition that you provided was "having a tendency for persons of a particular race to form exclusive political associations" .....

Which of those two groups have a greater TENDENCY for persons of a particular race to form exclusive political associations? Would it be the 55% group or the 90% group?.......hmmmm....I wonder.

Allow me to dumb this down for you.... is 90>55 ? Or is 55> 90 ?

 

Yup, you are right, White Nationalist and other such dummies are lefties and thus support identity politics.

 

Ah yes, resistance is futile... You will summit to assimilation...

 

Did you know exclusive means others are excluded. Listening to quite a few Republican types and one gets the idea that they, you all, want to exclude blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, homosexuals, liberals....

Are not the Democrats talking about including everyone.

 

We are talking about identity politics, which is political positioning based on the interests and perspectives of social groups with which people identify. We are NOT talking about Democrat rhetoric that they include everyone. Based on the voting patterns of constituencies within both the Republican and Democrat bases, we can determine which party more closely positions itself based on identity politics. You mentioned race so we will use that as our barometer.

If whites vote 55% Republican, and blacks vote 90% Democrat, and the definition that you provided was "having a tendency for persons of a particular race to form exclusive political associations" .....

Which of those two groups have a greater TENDENCY for persons of a particular race to form exclusive political associations? Would it be the 55% group or the 90% group?.......hmmmm....I wonder.

Allow me to dumb this down for you.... is 90>55 ? Or is 55> 90 ?

 

I started this thread after reading a rant from one of your comrades going on and on about how horrible Democrats are because that are accepting of HO-MO-SEX-U-ALS.

I just wanted to point out that it is the Republican side that makes divisions, that excludes, that hates.

But silly willies like you like to pretend that by offering others acceptance that somehow we are worse than your malicious exclusion of those not like yourself.

 

I've always wondered Who - is / was / has - Identity politics.

 

The working people have moved into the Republican party. And that includes working people of all races. Trump did better among blacks and Hispanics than anyone expected, including those who are also in the working class.

I'm guessing you have no idea who Tim Scott is, right? Or Condi Rice? They are just Uncle Tom's, right?

Identity politics is the Marxist Democrat strategy to split the voting public into all kind of sectors and then pit them against each other for political gain. Whites against blacks. Men against women. Straights vs gays. Christians vs Muslims. Urban vs rural. Rich vs poor. Young vs old.

You name it the Marxist Democrats create a split they can use for political gain.

It's why the Marxist Democrats invented the hyphenated American - to facilitate the splitting of people into groups.

And all it has done over the past 50 years in increase the polarization of Americans. Which, again, the Marxist Democrats use for political power and, lest I forget it, money!

 

It is not blacks that are doing the excluding, neither are Hispanics or homosexuals. It seems that they are mostly unwelcome in conservative circles. It is conservatives who are doing the excluding. Build the wall and keep everyone else out.

When have you ever seen liberals pushing for exclusionary practices. That is entirely a conservative thing, part of your conformist nature,

 

Whites have been being barred from racially concerned events lately.


You are Ill informed.

BTW, it's "Whose".

 

That's NOT the topic. The topic is which party more heavily relies upon identity politics. Since race is the measure that you suggested, and because whites vote 55% Republican while blacks vote 90% Democrat, the party that relies upon identity politics is the Democrats.

Even while arguing against the notion that Democrats play identity politics, YOU are playing identity politics by essentially labeling Conservatives as exclusionary racists. It is so reflexive that you are unaware of what you are even doing. It is truly comical. It reminds me of a 2 year old insisting that they didn't get into their mothers makeup, WHILE having lipstick smeared all over their face.

 

Every time a Conservative speaker comes to a college campus to speak or a Conservative student tries to share a viewpoint in class....what are you people so afraid of?

 

Marxist Democrats, whatever they are, seem to indicate a cultish following on your part.

If you could step back from your indoctrinated hatred of those not like yourself. You'd see that, when it comes to non-conservative/conformists it is conservatives that are doing the offending and liberals are doing the defending. If I punch you in the face to stop you from yelling racial epithets at non-white children, you are still the racist.

 

He's trying so hard to be erudite that he doesn't understand that he's made a grammatical error. He's just oozing condescension.

 

So absurd on it's face that I'm not even sure it is worth my while to respond. None-the-less for the edification of those who don't no any better identity politics is code for playing one race against the other, one group against the other and it is something that the left in general and the Democratic party in particular have been engaged in in one way or the other since Reconstruction. It is in short grievance peddling, a sort of half-assed combination of selling indulgences, concomitant moral grandstanding, sycophantic posturing all rolled into a giant ball of unseemly nastiness. It doesn't impress me in the least that the Democrats quit shilling for the Klan and started shilling for Black Lives matter; race based horse crap is race based horse crap no matter the race you're shilling for. I have no use for the Nation of Islam or the KKK, and none for BLM or the Aryan Brotherhood they are however much they detest each other all brothers under the skin they are a hateful brotherhood made only more obscene by the fact they they rely on the government to fix things they way they want it because they can't get what they want in any other fashion.

 

If there were still conservatives around like William Buckley, colleges would have no problem having conservatives give speeches. You may not be able to see outside the box you grew up in, but what currently passes for political rhetoric from conservatives tends to be anti-intellectual and hate filled. In fact I would wager that dislike of others is a common thread in conservative talk. There is no positive reason to allow such garbage as if it is were intelligent discourse.

Obviously the problem is one of intellectual class. As it is turning out, educated people are more and more leaning left while uneducated people are leaning more and more right. We don't want to listen to your garage/bar/locker room silliness than you want to listen to accedemic lectures that are way over your head.