Who's Identity Politics

Well said.

It should be mentioned though, that Progressives consider colour-blindness racist. They claim it fails to acknowledge and accommodate 'oppression'.

They want equality, but they don't want you practising equality to get there. Just in case that might sound like a clever and well considered approach, it isn't. They really are that stupid.

 

Even the gay, black, educated conservatives.

 

No mind will be improved by cloistering.

 

Um, no. You do not get to have racist policies and support racist organizations then tell me to "step away" from the proof the Republican party has been playing the race game for 50 years.

Now if you're upset about being associated with the Klan, White Supremacists and the rest of the wet nasties you've climbed into bed with then I'd suggest you look in the mirror for your race problems and stop blaming others.

 

They can't get the 20,000 foot view because their fervent belief that their way is the only way, is as effective as religion at curbing stray thought. The shrill emotional response (to the idea that conservatism may have some benefits) is first and foremost, and the only voice heard. Unfortunately I know this response well .. having for many years allowed it to drown out detached and critical thought.

 

You hit on something important, here. 50 years ago.

The rest of us have moved on.

 

The most racist people in the western world today, not aged 65 or older, are white, middle class Progressives.

More and more POC are starting to realise it, and not before time.

 

Once again you have replied to my post without actually replying to what was said....I will repeat....

Do you think it is possible that the frenzy that you have been whipped into about the KKK and White Supremacists, may be a function of exaggeration promulgated for political purposes? When is the last time you read a news story about either of those groups that wasnt a political piece attempting to tie them to Republicans? The last time I remember seeing a legitimate news piece on the KKK was around 1980...they were planning a parade in a nearby town. It drew a lot of attention, and I think it ended up being 5 or 6 guys marching down a street.

 

Remind yourself of that at your next meeting and see if all the White Supremacists agree.

 

Respond to what? Your opinion of what may or may not be a significant story? Please, get over yourself. You and yours put Steve Bannon, the leader among Supremacists and Trump, twice convicted of racist business practices in the White House. Lie down in crap and you'll get up smelling like a turd.

 

In the lead up to the last election, no one on the left was talking about race. That is until, certain Republican candidates, made it central to their message. No Democrats were talking about building walls or excluding people. The only reason liberals like me ever bring up race, is that we find it rather offensive, the things other people say.

Take for instance the black lives matter movement. It began as a protest over the fact that black people tend to be victimized by the police and the rest of the criminal justice system. Conservatives , in their silly bubble, turned it into an excuse to bash black people.

It puts conservatives in a bad light. It seems as if you all are a bunch of racists or you all are into police brutality, possibly both. You personally may not be a racist, yet you are intent on supporting an ideology that is.

 

Liar, liar pants on fire hanging from a telephone wire.

 

It's not like you are fooling anyone.

 

I don't need to remind myself, I see it all the ####### time. We are a family of colour, and live amongst white middle class Progressives. The neighbouring 'redneck' area is less racist.

 

Insight is not your thing, I see.

Try not speaking for POCs for a bit. You might gain some (insight).

 

Good comeback, my dude.

 

What does reducing illegal immigration have to do with racism, please?

I'll help you get started: It has nothing to do with race.

 

Yup, crank has a point - Progressives are the most racist people of today as all they ever do is talk about race and ethnicity. In fact, their entire ideology has built its whole raison d'être on physical attributes. They are judging people based on their outside and attribute each individual a "social status" on the great ladder of intersectional oppression based on how they look. Absolutely disgusting. This is the exact definition of 'racism'.

Both my parents are immigrants and there is nothing I hate as much when some smug academian sits in a tv-studio talking about me being oppressed just because of my genes - F**k off! Of course, in their eyes, I am a "housen***er".

 

Beautifully said, Rittz.

I feel really bad for POC who think it's okay that rich white folk speak for them.

 

Yeah. Those "experts" have never been in any other neighbourhood than a upper-middle class one, yet they sit there with their champagne and talk about life in "the projects". Most of them would not even step into such areas if they were paid. Of course, they love immigrants, minorities and poor people as long as they don't have to live near them.

At least Nazis are being honest and say they don't like them and don't want to live with them. Lefties are hypocrites.

 

I've read a hell of a lot of bullshit on this thread.

Let's have a clear definition as to what exactly "identity politics" is...

 

Do you think it is possible that the frenzy that you have been whipped into about the KKK and White Supremacists, may be a function of exaggeration promulgated for political purposes? When is the last time you read a news story about either of those groups that wasnt a political piece attempting to tie them to Republicans? The last time I remember seeing a legitimate news piece on the KKK was around 1980...they were planning a parade in a nearby town. It drew a lot of attention, and I think it ended up being 5 or 6 guys marching down a street

 

Nobody was talking about race?......Are you SERIOUS? I am glad that you mentioned Black Lives Matter

Let me refresh your memory. In 2012, in the run up to an election that a lot of people theorized was going to hinge on Florida, the President of the United States decides to weigh in on some obscure shooting in Florida (Treyvon Martin), and declares something to the effect that could have been his son; thus sending that otherwise obscure story and racial tensions into the stratosphere. George Soros funded a bunch of protests, and you know the rest of the story. Surely an increase in racial tensions has a tendency to increase black voter turnout, and because blacks vote 90% plus Democrat, this no doubt helped Obama gain votes. Was it just happenstance that the President took that action which no doubt inflamed racial tensions in the very state that was considered to be the likely deciding factor in the election? Suspicious, but certainly hard to prove.

Things died down for a while until 2014, which just so happened to be the next election year. This was a midterm election, and all of Washington was abuzz wondering whether or not the Republicans were going to gain enough seats to take over the Senate, which would give them both houses of Congress, effectively blunting any legislative opportunities for Obamas last 2 years. This was going to be a tight one, and all eyes pointed to the swing District of Claire Mckaskill in Missouri as the likely determinant of whom controls the Senate. Wouldn't you know it?......another high profile shooting of a black man, once again IN the place that was predicted to be the deciding location for the whole race. Obama weighed in, the story went through the stratosphere, George Soros funded a bunch of protests, and Black Lives Matter was born. Black Lives Matter remained a big thing into 2016, but since the election is over, you almost never hear anything about it anymore. George Soros for some odd reason has stopped funding their protests.

Shootings happen every day in this country, and during Obamas 8 years in office, aside from mass shootings, the only two that Obama ever personally weighed in on was Trayvon Martin and the "Gentle Giant" whom when all facts were revealed never was really all that gentle. What a strange coincidence that they just so happened to occur in the only 2 election years for Obama after the shellacking in 2010. What a strange coincidence that they both happened in areas that were considered to be pivotal in their respective elections. What a strange coincidence that George Soros was so passionate about this subject that he invested millions of dollars in protests, but no longer seems to have any interest now that the 2016 election is over.

This was either incredibly shrewd identity politics at its finest, OR, considering that inflamed racial tensions are great for Democrats, one of the most fortuitous series of incredibly coincidental circumstances in the history of politics. I personally believe it was the former, you undoubtedly will insist it is the latter. I think my argument is WAY more compelling.

 

What a load of feces. Really, what a load. One of the clear characteristics of conservatives is to make up whatever fits their story line. If instead of just dribbling out another conservative lie, why don't you look into what liberals, real liberals, have to say on the subject. Central to liberal thought is equality, regardless of aestitics. When persons who are non-white are discriminated against, the person(s) doing the discrimination are almost always conservative.

If you are a houseni**er in someone's eyes, those are conservative eyes.

 

Maybe it has something to do with the pro-Trump-free-speech-for-white-supremacist clown parade that has been traveling to liberal areas trying to promote their hate-filled silliness.

Like I said earlier, if I punch you in the face to stop you from harassing a minority, you are still the racist, not me.