What is happening to liberals in this country?

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  1. Brewskier

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    Permaculture is good (Varg Vikernes advocates for this in almost every one of his videos), but it's really only for small scale sustainability. There's no way to keep what we identify as a modern civilization without utilizing things like large scale food production, which rely heavily on oil, genetic modification, etc. His premise is that the global system will fail at some point, killing off most of humanity, and the people who survive will be tasked with rebuilding everything from square 1. Most on the left who kind of agree with him on some things (I suspect you'd be one of them), still believe we can grow the population to 2, sometimes 3(!!) times its current size and still make sure everyone is taken care of, if we would simply abandon capitalism and institute a worldwide socialist system. Obviously I don't think that's a viable option, and neither does he.

    For what it's worth, I'm a right-winger but I would have absolutely no qualms about embracing your system if it meant the survival of my race and people. That's my primary focus. Some might call me a sellout for that, but it is what it is. Somehow the survival of the white race became an exclusively right-wing idea, and anathema to the left, so I oppose the left for that reason. Genocide is not supposed to be a concept that a people embrace for itself. The way this became accepted is truly diabolical.
     
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    If the thread is only about college campuses and want to bury its head in the sand about everything else, it has a terrible title.
     
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    i think the concept of white genocide is dumb because the thesis is that a genocide that can be stopped with a sufficient amount of barebacking is happening, which is its own argumentio ad absurdum
     
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    You dont understand, our right to say what we want even when it is something other detest is so important. Right now most people believe that the racist garbage spewed by those Nazis is wrong and rightly so. But can you honestly say in a 100 years that the things you value will still be valued by the majority? When your grand kids speak their mind and those views are unpopular do you want to the the one that took away the protections we now enjoy?

    No, speech no matter how distasteful needs to be protected. I dont want the government one day to say "your words are wrong so you cant say them." That is how you as a citizen lose everything.
     
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    I think colleges are afraid of nameless assassins, and realize that they really can't protect people anymore with all the guns around. You can't even safely hold a music show anymore, where's the profit in controversial speakers?
     
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    The UN defines an act of genocide as any action that is taken to reduce the population of a group in part or in whole. Certainly flooding the countries of a specific group, controlling the communication channels to instill cultural and ethnic shame/guilt, encouraging them to miscegenate with others, raising taxes on them to pay for the children of others, can be considered acts of genocide with the right arguments. And, keep in mind that whites are less than 10% of the global population. If the rest of the world moved into white countries, there's no amount of "barebacking" that could take place between whites that could overcome this. I highly doubt your explanation for the decline of Native Americans is that they didn't have enough children.
     
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    "Progressive" does not mean 'liberal." Progressive means "fascist." It was very clever for the global corporate fascists via their MSM propaganda outlets they literally own to eliminate the word "liberal" and replace it with "progressive" to facilitate the shifting a bulk of American liberals to become fascist globalists.

    For example, by this shift, the traditionally support of Israel (Jews) by liberals was shifted to hatred of Israel by "progressives." Hating Jews and being a fascist go hand in hand.
     
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    If so, then clearly they only fear leftwing assassins as it is only conservative speakers who are banned. Apparently, universities have accepted that ONLY the leftwing has created mass murderers.
     
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    It is college students killing 1000s of blacks every year? Or running gangs now using dogs to desensitize the killings with machetees and guns? Gods are tortured and killed by these worse than animals Like the ultra rich NFL animal Vicks who fought dogs because money didn't satisfy his lust fro blood and torture.
     
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    Nazis are saying they want to KILL all the other races but the white one. If they are ever regarded as the right one by the majority it will be because all the other races are dead and there is nobody around to speak against them. It is totally unreasonable to ask me to be tolerant of someone who advocates my death, who wants to cut me if I stand and shoot me if I run, there is only one answer to that and it is not calm reasoned discussion.
     
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    Is that a threat? Or are you still counting on that Russian collusion thing?
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Most leftwing speakers are not advocating that we KILL large numbers of people. Some conservatives, particularly the more radical alt.right, advocate just that.
     
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    No theyre not. Hes still as popular among the folks who elected him as he was last Nov. Youre just wishing again.
     
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    "So what is your answer? What law would you pass to combat the speech of these racists?
     
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    Are you talking a handful of nazis or millions of Muslims?
     
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    My explanation of the native americans declining is that they were literally murdered and had their homelands enclosed by private property.

    White people, meanwhile, have a lower birthrate because that's just what happens when you get wealthier, and the wealth of the countries we mostly inhabit attracts immigrants. I don't really care if we become a minority simply because we reproduced less. What is my race to me but something I belong to by pure accident? Why should I submit myself to some lofty idea that never did anything for me or the people I care about? Racial identity is a spook, to put it in Stirner's terms. I only care about people being subjected to violence and having their quality of life being reduced.
     
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  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    A handful of Nazis and a handful of Muslims. Besides, with the Muslims I can convert:pray:
     
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    Strawman much? Cutting, and shooting eh? You'd think you'd be shot for sure while giving a murderous nazi the "only one answerer" you have for them. I'm guessing you don't go outside much.
     
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    Most of them were not "murdered". They were demographically replaced. Another group arrived here in large numbers and moved in on their territory. That's the primary reason why Native Americans fell into decline. But by your logic, they should have been able to remain the majority by just having more children.

    No, that's not "just what happens". Japan got much wealthier over the past 40+ years and they haven't had tens of millions of non-Japanese people coming to their countries, turning the Japanese into a minority.

    Whites having less children wouldn't have made them minorities in their own countries. Immigration was responsible for this. Mixed-race propaganda was responsible for this. The welfare state was responsible for this. And they all have a common origin.
     
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    Nazis are their own worst enemy and have almost become extinct. So using them to win an argument is useless. Of course unless your talking about the Antifa,BLM nazi types? Or maybe LaRaza aka The Race? Only groups calling for genicide of a race are the ones you defend.
     
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    An opinion, and not necessarily because of Russian collusion.
     
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    If the Native Americans simply got whiter over time due to genetic intermingling, I don't think anyone would complain
     
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    Shabazz is not white. Nor are the black israelites, Mencha,ADL etc,. All of these groups your allied with according to your post.



     
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    I doubt it.
     
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    6 million Jews, 500,000 Gypsies, uncounted numbers of homosexuals, the mentally and physically challenged and hordes of other "untermensch" might argue that they were real flesh, not straw, though they are nothing but ashes now. You are young and have not read much of what the Nazis did so you dismiss it as hyperbole though in fact most of the accounts are actually LESS than the reality. Make no mistake, Nazis mean to kill most of humanity if they can. I don't see any way any human being can be expected to tolerate that
     

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