Why do you believe in God ?

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Let's just do the math!

    Here is your original post;

    49 words in total.

    Here is my post;

    I used the exact same 49 words that you did!

    All I did was to TRANSPOSE Islam and Christianity in those 49 words and then point out how it works the same for BOTH religions.

    Since the ONLY change I made was to switch around the position of 2 words out of 49 the math says that 47 out of 49 words UNCHANGED is 95.9% your own original words.

    The math never lies and the content was only marginally changed by a mere 4.1%.

    I took what you posted at face value and recognized that it applied equally to both religions so I made that point using your own words.

    Why you are having a problem with your own words is beyond me. I certainly have no problem using the same words to make the opposite point.
     
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    Oh, look, Robert OFF TOPIC as usual.....don't you have any opinions on anything besides me :)

    Why not ask me, why are you asking someone else? How totally illogical AS USUAL.

    WHY are YOU interested in the topic of abortion? Aren't YOU a man?

    There's been many debates in here on abortion by MEN......how old fashioned and sexist to think men can't have any opinion on abortion....

    ...aren't most of the Repub legislators, who want to cut women's rights with abortion laws, men?
    Yes, they are , men with not only an opinion but a sick need to control women....they have such an interest in the womb !!!
     
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    He can’t differentiate between mythology and science
     
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    I think I may have missed responding to this one - and I think you mean "no physical violence being threatened by pro life advocates" - rather than on.

    Pro life advocates (most) want a law banning abortion. Law - by definition gives the Gov't the power to punish using physical violence or even death in some cases.

    Making a law is - by definition- threatening physical violence should someone violate that law.

    Lifers (ones who believe in Ensoulment/ that a soul exists at conception because the Pope said so) are then forcing others, through physical violence, to abide law made on the basis of their religious beliefs thus forcing their religious beliefs on others.
     
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    And the poster has the gall to talk of other's credibility. And is constantly calling everyone else ignorant. Such hysterics.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget the spurious ad homs! ;)
     
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    I would not use one book since there are many ways to use it, and many approaches many now rule out the stories in the OT as real events but stories. So lets look at the bigger view plugging gods into the we don't know so 'gods must do it' is as old as time when lightning hit a building killing a family then "Thor" or 'Zeus" was angry then we discovered in time the science of such phenomenon. Now if the Biblical god is real as an example I want actual evidence a BIG SUPURNATURAL EVENT (BSE) such as in the Bible such as an Angel of Death after being told by a prophet or angel openly to many it was coming and wipe out all terrorists in the world would be suitably impressive. But what do we get a person being healed by god when they are under the best care by men and women of medicine, in good hospitals and then they get well and 'god did it' over"'men of medicine using the latest in Medical Science cured this woman of cancer or fixed them after a horrible accident" which to me is a lame miracle over god smiting a whole nation with his divine wrath or a BSE and I want as evidence a BSE as an ideal choice.
     
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    Yes. Isn't it just horrible when "some posters" repeat a lie they know to be false (Breitbart) and then have the gall to talk of other's credibility?

    I quite agree. So hypocritical!
     
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    Yep, Breitbart is known to repeat lies in their stories. Sometimes they've created their own lies as well. Even make false videos.
    They are scum, I agree.
     
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    So they (Breitbart) invented, made up, a dumb comment and attributed it to a Border Patrol guard, Hector Cruz, which appears to imply Bangladesh is located in the Middle East? Really? Is that what you are claiming?
    :roll: :roll:
    And wnat's worse, you knew, because I informed you, that all the hate and vitriol you were hypocritically dumping on Breitbart was misplaced and a lie because Breitbart wasn't wrong about where Bangladesh was (as if that really mattered anyway). Someone they were quoting in their story was wrong. And still you continued the lie.

    You should check yourself and see why you behave like that.
     
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    Doesn't work? Why not?

    I'd say the woman who aborts the human inside does more damage to him/her than she/he does to the woman.

    How many times should we go over this? To save the life and health of the woman every state aborts the fetus regardless of where in that pregnancy this occurs.

    I have put this poster on permanent ignore but I will address the argument, such as it is, to you. Frankly I don't think much of it.
     
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    Yes, that is the POINT of self defense...to stop the other from harming you and deadly force may be used...it's legal ....and should remain legal even if one gets pregnant.


    Maybe you should read up on "self defense".....it's not a contest of who does the worst damage..


    And NO, we don't need the self defense argument now because the fetus is not a person with rights.






    You don't think much of saving the lives of pregnant women?!!! .........Why am I not surprised...


    Laws that restrict late term abortions may , if used improperly, affect women who have difficulties in late pregnancy...or discover something wrong with the fetus in late pregnancy and NOTHING should interfere with her right to terminate that pregnancy (harm to herself) and stop the harm...

    No woman should die in childbirth because the fetus has been given more rights than she has..
     
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    What is worse is the constant misrepresenting you do. No one can make that many errors so you must be doing it on purpose.
    They repeated, not made up, a laughable lie of a statement.
    In the past they made up lies and faked videos. Anyone using them as a source of info does so to be misinformed.

    Now you going to try to be honest?
     
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    You have to realize that some people, when faced with facts, tend to "ignore" them...;)
     
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    Physical violence? Like giving someone the lash or stoning her, perhaps? Please show me the proposed law that is doing that.
    I think your claim is ridiculous and if anyone would suffer due to illegal abortions it would likely be the doctor who performed the
    gruesome task, like the monster Kermit Gosnell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell).

    And pro choice people are trying to force their views on others as well. Yet I don't see you condemning them for that.
     
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    :) Took this long to bring up the inevitable Gosnell who was convicted of murder and had nothing to do with abortion.

    At least some Anti-Choicers know ancient irrelevant history.

    NO, Pro-Choicers are only "forcing" the view that EVERYONE has rights, even pregnant women...it's pathetic that that view has to be forced on to some.
     
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    OMG! :eek:

    Someone is FORCING others to make a CHOICE! :eek:

    How utterly despicable to make anyone have to DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES what is in their OWN BEST INTERESTS? :eek:

    They should just be FORCED to have that UNWANTED baby because they CHOSE to have SEX! :eek:

    That will TEACH them NOT to have sex! :eek:

    [sarcasm alert]
     
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    Ridiculous isn't it.
    AAllowing freedom to people is forcing others to conform.
    I can't fathom such ignorance.
     
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    Yeah...you mean that one error you brilliantly detected? Which matches the one error I caught of yours, which you kept using even after you were informed you were propagating a lie?

    Actually now you have produced yet another lie (my so called "constant misrepresenting") which you apparently just wished into
    existence because you want it to be true. So thanks for that little victory you just handed me. And keep up the good, I mean, bad work.

    And at least when someone tells me I've made a statement that can't be factually supported I acknowledge that and don't do it again.
    That's clearly on the record in that thread. But not you. When caught lying you simply moved your lie to another thread and continued to fib as if nothing ever happened. That's very very dishonest!



    I take it you mean Breitbart here. You might to want to try an antecedent when you introduce a new pronoun in your rant suddenly.

    And you might want to consider that Hector Cruz did NOT lie if he did not know the geographic location of Bangladesh, which it seems likely he did not. You certainly have no way of knowing one way or the other, by the way.
    Yet you are happy to call him a liar?

    But accusing Brietbart of lies, even when you have no way of knowing that's true or not, seems to be too good for you to pass up or let go. So you just attribute the error of someone quoted in a Brietbart article to Brietbart themselves...because it gives you another
    opportunity to condemn and hate and that seems to be just what you like to do.



    So hypocritical. You have no business even using the word honest.
     
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    Speaking of ignorance, do you have any idea what slave holders and abolitionists were fighting over prior to the Civil War that broke out
    in response to that very issue (slavery), in large part?

    They were fighting over giving slave holding masters the choice to hold their fellow human beings in bondage and to treat them like animals.

    Nobody was making the Christian abolitionists hold slaves themselves! But slave holders wanted the freedom, the choice, to treat their fellow human beings like dogs.

    You certainly seem to be in favor of giving people choices. Even when those choices result in the deaths of innocent others. Are you smart enough to realize who your position links you to, morally and philosophically? I guess we'll find out.
     
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    FORCING a woman to give birth to an unwanted child against her will and best interests is IDENTICAL to SLAVERY according to that screed above since she is DENIED the CHOICE to do anything else.

    Why do "pro-lifers" want to ENSLAVE women and "treat their fellow human beings like dogs"?
     
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    Actually all the errors everyone in this thread has pointed out.

    Then there is this freedom of choice you cclaim is forcing something on you.
     
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    Wtf does that have to do with a woman and her own body?
     
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    Don't be so over dramatically asinine! In every state in the union, as far as I know, women can abort in a timely and completely legal way.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States
    Try and learn something, at least.

    Why do you have to
    make such ridiculous claims?
     

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