Why the Right Wing Rejects Science

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BALONEY! That poster NEVER used a term to justify abortion.

That's just more "misrepresentation" from those who want to take away women's right to their own bodies and have no good argument.

 

Never said he did but he won't condemn those that do such as yourself.

 

Good post. However, if Trump decided that climate is changing and we are responsible, then his followers would join the bandwagon.
Remember, Trump could "shoot someone in the street" and they would still support him. Whatever he says or does is ok with his gullible supporters.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
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BALONEY! That poster NEVER used a term to justify abortion.

That's just more "misrepresentation" from those who want to take away women's right to their own bodies and have no good argument.

YES you DID say he did right here:


"""Josephwalker said: ↑
It's obvious you are fine with misusing the term zygote to justfy killing an unborn baby"""


And I have told you that I do NOT use the term zygote nor any other "term" to justify woman having abortions.

Just because you can't or didn't understand doesn't mean I didn't say it.

 

Oh really?


FoxHastings said: ↑
You may call it all the erroneous names you want, A human being, a baby, a pogostick, a princess, a bun but it will always and only be a zygote.... with NO rights until it's born

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
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BALONEY! That poster NEVER used a term to justify abortion.

That's just more "misrepresentation" from those who want to take away women's right to their own bodies and have no good argument.







YES you DID say he did right here:


"""Josephwalker said: ↑
It's obvious you are fine with misusing the term zygote to justfy killing an unborn baby"""


And I have told you that I do NOT use the term zygote nor any other "term" to justify woman having abortions.

Just because you can't or didn't understand doesn't mean I didn't say it.

YES, REALLY.


I NEVER said that what you call it justifies abortion as you claim.

No matter how many times you claim that it will never be true...

 

"And I have told you that I do NOT use the term zygote nor any other "term" to justify woman having abortions."

Then why exactly do you misuse the word zygote and say things like the following.

FoxHastings said: ↑
You may call it all the erroneous names you want, A human being, a baby, a pogostick, a princess, a bun but it will always and only be a zygote.... with NO rights until it's born

 

Thank you for proving that the Right Wing Rejects Science...

I knew they would prove it themselves ….

 

I would think it's you who calls an unborn baby a zygote right up until the time it's born is the one rejecting science.

FoxHastings said: ↑
You may call it all the erroneous names you want, A human being, a baby, a pogostick, a princess, a bun but it will always and only be a zygote.... with NO rights until it's born


Zygote: The cell formed by the union of a male sex cell (a sperm) and a female sex cell (an ovum). The zygote develops into the embryo following the instruction encoded in its genetic material, the DNA.The unification of a sperm and an ovum to form a zygote constitutes fertilization.

Fetal period: week #12 to week #40


The fetal period is a time of growth of the developing baby. The organs and structures formed in the embryonic period continue to grow and develop.

The second trimester begins in the 13th week. By about 14 weeks of pregnancy, the gender of the fetus can be identified. Women can begin to feel movement of the fetus somewhere between the 16th and 20th weeks of pregnancy. The baby grows to about 2 pounds during the second trimester.

In the third trimester, starting in the 27th week, the baby assumes the size and characteristics of a newborn and prepares for birth. The fetus will open its eyes and breathe in the amniotic fluid.


https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=6074

 

I haven't so again, you are "misrepresenting" what I posted.


The comment you quoted below was about the ZYGOTE.




FoxHastings said: ↑
You may call it all the erroneous names you want, A human being, a baby, a pogostick, a princess, a bun but it will always and only be a zygote.... with NO rights until it's born.


A zygote can only be a zygote UNTIL IT CHANGES INTO SOMETING ELSE.

Is that clearer for you?


It will NEVER be a baby as long as it's a zygote.

It can ONLY be a baby when it's BORN, not before.

 

So you are saying that those delivered by Caesarian are not actual "babies" and I assume you then believe have no human rights and can be disposed of at will at any time in the future?

 

So it's never an embryo? Never a fetus? Never an unborn babie even one hour before birth? It's always a zygote and then suddenly at the instant of birth it magically and instantaneously transforms into a baby? Are you for real?

 

You claimed they did experiments, when in fact they haven't. All they have is computer simulations, which are not experiments.

 

Asinine strawman bovine excrement duly noted and ignored for derogatory reasons.

 

What exactly is the difference between a laboratory experiment that simulates an earthquake and a computer experiment that simulates an earthquake?

Neither of those experiments are actual earthquakes but both produce predicted results based upon KNOWLEDGE gained from actual earthquakes.

In essence we know that an earthquake is the shifting of the ground beneath a structure and we know the strengths of the materials in that structure. We can build a model of the structure on a platform that is then shaken until it collapses. We can also enter all of the data regarding the materials in the structure and then calculate the force needed for them to shear and collapse.

Computer simulated experiments produce the same results as physical experiments but they are cheaper and more cost effective because more variables can be tested. They did computer simulation experiments on the James Dean accident and managed to produce a result where the car ended up virtually exactly where it was in reality. That computer simulation experiment proved that he was NOT the one who was speeding but rather the car that hit him was speeding.

Why does the righwing REJECT computer experiments? Is it because they produce results that conflict with their confirmation bias?

 

And yet you have no subject matter knowledge of the topic, since this is false. Each sperm and egg only have a half set of DNA (23 genes), so the zygote has ONE full set of DNA (46 genes). The stage of combining the half sets of DNA into a new unique set occurs within 12 hours of fertilization.

"The fertilized ovum. Of the hundreds of sperm surviving the swim upstream to the oocyte, one jettisons its tail and nuzzles inside the much larger cell, which becomes an ovum, completing its own meiosis. A fertilized ovum = conception.

Pronuclei merge, within 12 hours. After fertilization, the packets of DNA from male and female — the pronuclei — approach, merge, and the intermingling chromosomes pair and part, as the first mitotic division looms. A new human genome forms. Following that first division, some genes from the new genome are accessed to make proteins, but maternal transcripts still dominate development."

https://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/2013/10/03/when-does-a-human-life-begins-17-timepoints/

 

Because a job in the private sector is adding to the economy. A government job is not. A government job is not paid for by consumers and does not create wealth. Instead, it must be paid for by taking taxes from the populace. It's why the Great Depression federal jobs never ended the Great Depression.

 

GIGO.

 

Thank you for proving that I am 100% correct that there is no unique DNA at CONCEPTION and that it only forms AFTERWARDS!

 

PROJECTION!

 

Your logic is lacking. It obviously has unique DNA at conception since it contains one strand of 23 genes from the mother and one strand of 23 genes from the father, in a combination that is unique. You previously claimed that it would have two complete sets of DNA and are now redefining terms to suit yourself. I'm guessing that you will not be satisfied with having just the morning after pill as a valid means of abortion and allow the baby to come to term if the woman can't or doesn't get the morning after pill within six hours of having sex, so I'm not sure how relevant those 12 hours are to the argument. It's not even technically a zygote until the DNA has formed; until then it's a fertilized ovum. And we were discussing the morality of aborting the zygote.

 

Your grasp of the subject matter is lacking!

Just having two entirely SEPARATE and UNCOMBINED strands of DNA (AKA sets) does NOT constitute a UNIQUE human being.

First off there is no guarantee that the strands will SUCCESSFULLY combine!

Secondly HOW they combine is not guaranteed either. Errors in copying are where mutations arise and the size of the error can be fatal. Furthermore combining can have misalignments and translocations.

All of this occurs AFTER the conception where ONLY the fertilization happens.

To pretend that there is a unique human being at conception is disingenuous.

 

Is the Left Wing still beating it's wife?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑

It can ONLY be a baby when it's BORN, not before.

OMGAWD!



You don't know that being delivered by Caesarian is being BORN. ?!?!...OMGAWD....!!!!!



No, I NEVER said ""that those delivered by Caesarian are not actual "babies"""" AND YOU HAVE NO PROOF I DID.....so why are you saying I did ???......

 

If you actually read the posts of mine you quote it might help...but I doubt it really:
But others can read my posts and see how you've misrepresented what I write.


""I haven't so again, you are "misrepresenting" what I posted.


The comment you quoted below was about the ZYGOTE.




FoxHastings said: ↑
You may call it all the erroneous names you want, A human being, a baby, a pogostick, a princess, a bun but it will always and only be a zygote.... with NO rights until it's born.


A zygote can only be a zygote UNTIL IT CHANGES INTO SOMETING ELSE.

Is that clearer for you?


It will NEVER be a "baby" as long as it's STILL a zygote.

It can ONLY be a baby when it's BORN, not before."""




Too bad but YOU can call it anything you like, you can call it's a giraffe but a zygote is a zygote ...and that's it.

BUT thanks again for proving the title of the thread is correct. Science HAS frightened some people for a long time...