Why the Right Wing Rejects Science

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  1. Derideo_Te

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    A zygote contains TWO SETS of DNA, one from each of the parents, because it is the stage PRIOR to the splitting and recombining of the DNA to form a unique set for the POTENTIAL human being.

    Subject matter knowledge is IMPORTANT when discussing the SCIENCE of abortion. The lack of said knowledge amongst the rightwing is notable by it's absence.
     
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    It's elementary: Haploid female contribution + haploid male contribution = a new diploid individual that is absolutely unique.

    A human zygote has the full complement of diploid human DNA which forms a unique individual.

    The gametes have the haploid complement (half of a full complement) of human DNA.

    Well, well, well, and a full complement of DNA is swell.

    It makes long one's, tall ones, short ones, brown ones, black ones, red ones, white ones, round ones, big ones, small ones, skinny ones, fat ones, every time a unique one.
     
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    Why? I can prove it's wrong simply by the fact that the parents have to be alive to conceive...and again, so what?

    Sad to think that you think thinking is "mental masturbation" ...seems to be why you can only post one thing....and the one thing has no point.

    OK, now do your usual bumper sticker reply...….that has no meaning nor point....(talk about "masturbation ;) )
     
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    Not only does God give humans "free will," He also gives the soul the same, and no living human exists long without a soul. The soul & the future mother have an agreement BEFORE pregnancy occurs, to become family. Either of the two has the right to break that agreement anytime before fetal viability. Both know an abortion doesn't necessarily break the agreement. The soul can still share a life with that mother by participating in a later pregnancy. The workings between the spiritual & physical worlds are much more complex and interconnected than most of us realize.
     
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    I don't know. For those needing jobs, does that matter?
     
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    A zygote contains TWO HALF SETS of DNA, produced previously by meiosis within each parent, and these two half sets have combined to form a FULL SET of DNA, now constituting a zygote, and full cell division, that is, the process of mitosis, begins.

    Then a cardinal sign of life, growth, begins, doubling the number of cells constituting the individual with each mitotic division.

    Nothing further.
     
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    Definitely. Its hardly the mark of a healthy economy if everyone is simply given a job by government fiat.
     
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    Good answer
    Why is a job in the private sector more important than a job in government? That's weird logic. Government jobs pay salaries, provide benefits like health care, and vacations. To arbitrarily say they are somehow "less than" makes no sense to me. Both private & governmental jobs are still part of the job market. They should be regarded equally.
     
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    Because ultimately those jobs for the government have to be paid for with taxes.... taxes generated by the private sector. Government jobs do not actually produce anything for the most part.

    Thus creating jobs in the private sector is infinitely more important and more valuable than the government simply hiring people.

    Get it?
     
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    Never accused him of misusing the word but it would be nice if he admitted this that do misuse it do so to make abortion sound more palatable. It's just a zygote. Correct me if I'm wrong but have you not called second trimester fetuses zygotes in discussions we have had in the abortion thread?
     
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    You seem to be dodging my very simple question. When someone labels a second trimester fetus a zygote don't you think they do so in order to make it seem easier to abort?
     
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    Since private enterprise produces items for consumer consumption to make a profit, and government provides services for its citizens, I don't see one as more important than the other. They have different aspects or attributes, but it takes both to sustain a society, so they are both important. Demeaning one & glorifying the other weakens the ensemble. I disagree with you.
     
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    You're wrong. It is very simple. Profits from private enterprise (and the taxes paid for them) ultimately are what has to pay for the services provided by the government.

    You can have a private sector, private sector services, private sector employment all that without government services.

    But the reverse is not true.
     
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    Yes, you did.



    That isn't true, Pro-Choicers don't need to but Anti-Choicers want people to picture the Gerber baby being aborted because they have no facts for their arguments so need emotional hyperbole instead.



    WTF has that got to do with anything?


    Why would he say he's misusing the word zygote when he isn't ??

    Just because you want people to picture a zygote as the looking exactly like the Gerber baby doesn't make it true.

    You may hate science but you can't get around it :)


    One thing I have always noted about Anti-Choice (Anti- women's rights) people they never answer direct and INconvenient questions nor address the actual contents of posts. :)

    That is due to lack of facts on their side..
     
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    Thank you for confirming that I am correct.

    Since those TWO SETS OF DNA have NOT YET COMBINED in the zygote there is no SINGLE UNIQUE set of DNA for another human being to exist at CONCEPTION. It is MITOSIS that results in a UNIQUE set of DNA which occurs AFTER conception.
     
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    Without the government of We the People the private sector would destroy our nation for the sake of greed alone. That makes government jobs far more valuable to We the People than minimum wage slave labor without benefits in the private sector.
     
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    No one, aside from YOU, is doing that.

    You, and your fellow anti-abortionists, are also disingenuously mislabeling a fetus as an "unborn baby" in order to use bogus emotive terminology to nefariously deprive women of their rights. .
     
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    Complete and utter codswallop!

    Tribal societies were self governing entities that thrived and prospered for millennia WITHOUT the greed and avarice of the "private sector".
     
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    As I suspected it was you who called later term fetuses zygotes in previous discussion on the subject which makes my point about people misusing the word to make killing these unborn babies more palatable
     
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    Well I think your continued dodging of the question answers the question. You do not object when people misuse the term zygote to make killing an unborn baby not seem so bad. After all it's just a zygote.
     
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    Yes, you did.

    Pro-Choicers don't need to but Anti-Choicers want people to picture the Gerber baby being aborted because they have no facts for their arguments so need emotional hyperbole instead.




    ??

    Just because you want people to picture a zygote as the looking exactly like the Gerber baby doesn't make it true.

    You may hate science but you can't get around it :)


    One thing I have always noted about Anti-Choice (Anti- women's rights) people they never answer direct and INconvenient questions nor address the actual contents of posts. :)

    That is due to lack of facts on their side..
     
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    Typical disjointed post by you that leaves people wondering what you are even trying to say.
     
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    WHY do YOU refer to it as "just a zygote" when it's the start of a new life !!!!!

    WOW, to you it's "just a zygote" that's it??? No respect for life there !!
     
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    Everybody stand back. It's about to explode!
     
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    Oh , and now YOU know what "people" think...

    Who are these "people" whose minds you read?

    Why do you think you're their spokesperson?


    OH, YOU are confused so you need to show that you're not alone and invented these "people" to back you up....NOW I get it :)
     
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