Why the Right Wing Rejects Science

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  1. Josephwalker

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    And BOOM! Lol
     
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    I see I was correct, you have no argument. ...just one line nothings. :) Thank you for confirming.
     
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    In case you haven't noticed, the United States economy is not a bunch of hunter gatherers walking the Serengeti.
     
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    Most American workers are paid several times minimum wage and they can leave those jobs any time they wish. Hardly "slave labor".
     
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    Yeah right, they raided, took slaves, stole women, horses, etc from other tribes. If they are human, they had greed, just like the rest of us. There were no fantasy utopias.
     
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    Your continued disinengenuous ABUSE of the term "baby" is a transparent attempt on your part to promote the nefarious agenda of taking away women's rights!

    We the People will NOT abide by that kind of unamerican discrimination!
     
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    Whereas your abject FAILURE to refute my point has been noticed!
     
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    So you cannot DENY that there are hardworking Americans being UNDERPAID and treated as wage slaves.
     
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    Thank you for being honest enough to equate unfettered capitalist greed to RAIDING, STEALING and SLAVERY.
     
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    "Zygote: The cell formed by the union of a male sex cell (a sperm) and a female sex cell (an ovum). The zygote develops into the embryo following the instruction encoded in its genetic material, the DNA.

    The unification of a sperm and an ovum to form a zygote constitutes fertilization."

    https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=6074

    The zygote is a single cell unique human individual.

    The zygote begins mitosis and when the number of cells are sufficient that it can implant, c. 300 cells, it is then arbitrarily called a blastocyst once it implants.

    The unique human individual then continues through all of the arbitrarily named stages of embryonic development, becoming millions of cells, and then at birth has an estimated 1 to 5 trillion cells as a newborn.
     
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    I'm sure there are some American workers somewhere being underpaid. I do not believe the majority are. And that still doesn't make them "wage slaves" (that isn't a real thing you know).

    Do you have evidence that a substantial number of American workers (let's be generous and call it 20% minimum) are "underpaid"?
     
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    Once again you are CONFIRMING that I am correct that there is NO unique human DNA at conception until MITOSIS occurs which is POST conception.

    Unless you are trying to PRETEND that two UNJOINED strings of DNA from OTHER INDIVIDUALS somehow constitute a human being.

    If that is your position then this exchange of posts between ourselves could equally be claimed to be a "human being" since two separate and distinct sets of DNA are involved.
     
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    43% of We the People consider ourselves to be underpaid.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/241682/four-workers-think-underpaid.aspx

     
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    "A zygote is the UNION of the sperm cell and the egg cell. Also known as a fertilized ovum, THE ZYGOTE BEGINS AS A SINGLE CELL but divides rapidly in the days following fertilization."

    https://www.verywellfamily.com/what-is-a-zygote-2796031

    For mitosis to occur to full development the full complement of DNA must be present and joined in the single cell zygote, a unique human individual.

    A unique human being possessing human nature is present before the first cell division occurs.
     
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    You really don't want to answer the question do you. It's a simple yes or no answer. Do you approve of people misusing the word zygote to make abortion seem more palatable? Yes or no?
     
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    WTF are you arguing about? The last thing we need in this country is more unwanted children in which the parents cannot support emotional or financially!!! I'm against abortion on principle but very much in agreement that the gestation process can be morally and ethically halted a short time after conception.
     
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    Different subject. All I'm asking for is honest debate and if people call a fetus a zygote we don't have honest debate.
     
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    Wrong because there is NO UNIQUE DNA for that unique human being in existence at CONCEPTION.

    The FACTUAL TIMELINE is irrefutable.
     
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    Do you approve of :deadhorse:?

    The answer appears to be resounding YES because ONLY YOU has MISUSED the term.
     
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    Ironic given the dishonest methodology being employed.
     
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    It's obvious you are fine with misusing the term zygote to justfy killing an unborn baby. Now that we have that out in the open everything you say on the subject needs thorough scruitny
     
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    Well, when the sperm penetrates the cell wall of the ovum, there is no unique DNA at that point, but that is not yet a zygote. However, when the two haploid complements of DNA combine to form a full diploid complement of DNA, that DNA of the two gametes combined constitute a unique human individual, and that UNION is what a zygote is defined as.

    If there is not a full complement of diploid DNA present in the zygote before it divides, I cannot tell you what the result will be if it does somehow divide by mitosis, but it will be abnormal.

    "Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception)."

    "Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."

    [Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]

    https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html

    You say that your factual timeline is irrefutable, but you cite no evidence.
     
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    You are successfully DOWNGRADING your credibility and have already DISQUALIFIED yourself from any further meaningful interaction on this topic as far as I am concerned.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Cherry picking quotes is an appeal to authority fallacy and therefore ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    Don't see why it's so hard for you to say people misusing the word zygote to justify late term abortion is wrong but apparently it is.
     

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